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Published: Monday, Aug. 8 2011 8:34 a.m. MDT

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Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"The Utah Utes are the most important team in college football" (I've always felt this.) by Scott Terrell on Aug. 08, 2011, under Sports Tucson Citizen.

Quotes from the article include: The Utes went to (and won) two BCS bowl games as members of the Mountain West Conference. If they can do the same against a Pac-12 schedule it breaks down the final barrier for the so-called Non-Automatic Qualifying conferences. But Boise State (the new king of the MWC, next to Utah, the old king) cares (If Utah wins in the PAC-12) . TCU also needs Utah to win. Interestingly enough, so does BYU. Any outsider program that wants its 12-0 record to be taken seriously needs the Utes to find big success in their new home.

What a year this should be! Is that a "Go Utes!" I hear from accross the nation?

Wookie
Omaha, NE

That's a no-brainer :)

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"But Boise State cares. TCU also needs Utah to win. Interestingly enough, so does BYU. Any outsider program that wants its 12-0 record to be taken seriously needs the Utes to find big success in their new home."

Yes bYu fans, as much as it might pain you to admitt.. you need big brother to do well.

Hoping and praying the Utes are a bottome feeder does bYu no good, infact it hurts you're fragile independent attempt.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@wedgie

Obviously it isn't hurting BYU's recruiting. Or should I say 'Troy Hinds'! LOL! You won't post in that article now will you.

@who am i sir

When you only win the conference championship twice in 11 years it hardly makes you the "king". LOL! Nice utah "fan" delusion.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Some great stuff in the Red Roundup today.
The "Most Important Team In College Football" article was spot on and the article on Shaky Smithson was fantastic.
Man I hope Shaky sticks with the Packers and sees the field...it'll be tough with all their talent at wide receiver but how cool is it he didn't back away from that competition?! He could have picked an easier roster to make but wanted to be in Green Bay for many of the same reasons he went to Utah. What a stud!

Dutchman
Murray, UT

"U. most important team in nation"

Sure beats being the most popular school in the nation. LOL

There is certainly a lot more riding on this than who is the most popular.

ute-chute
Beverly Hills, CA

@hedgehog | 10:48 a.m. Aug. 8, 2011
Ann Arbor, MI

"But Boise State cares. TCU also needs Utah to win. Interestingly enough, so does BYU. Any outsider program that wants its 12-0 record to be taken seriously needs the Utes to find big success in their new home."

Yes bYu fans, as much as it might pain you to admitt.. you need big brother to do well.
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What you're telling us, is that BSU, TCU and BYU are all screwed?

Kyle Whit had the perfect storm of luck, missed FG's and poor clock management by opposing teams, and bad calls to make it to the Sugar Bowl aganst a Tide team that did not want to be there.

All non-AQ teams would be better off if BSU or TCU were the team that had to prove it.

The good thing, is the PAC-12 is a mediocre conference right now.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

Despite the expected BCS bias from the BCS cartel, BYU is the only team in the last 50 years to win a national championship while playing in a non-major conference.

BYU winning a national championship as a non-AQ independent would shatter ALL of the barriers. BYU doesn't need Utah to do well in the PAC 12 to bust down the BCS barriers. It was BYU forcing the BCS to relax their exclusionary non-AQ rules that allowed Utah to be the first BCS buster.

Jimmy James
Salt Lake City, Ut

I'm glad this Arizona paper ran this article. This is what I've been saying all along. While everyone else has billed the Utes as selling out to the BCS, the fact remains that Utah is still the great non-AQ hope. If Utah can immediately perform in a BCS conference, gone is the argument that non-AQ teams can't compete week in and week out, and hence the door is further opened for other non-AQ teams (like BYU and Boise State).

Hopefully, this next season or two Utah will still be blazing the way for other non-AQ teams. Go Utes!

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"The good thing, is the PAC-12 is a mediocre conference right now"

Ute kewt,

Strong analysis there champ. The PAC sent two teams to the BCS bowls last year including the National Championship. Both Stanford and Oregon are projected to reach BCS bowls this year as well.

I won't hold you're ignorance against you, you know no better. bYu was not invited to a conference and thus your knowledge is limited to only what Dick Harmon tells you.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Some of the most hilarious comments I've ever read on these boards:

ute-chute -

...missed FG's and poor clock management by opposing teams, and bad calls to make it to the Sugar Bowl against a Tide team that did not want to be there.

Do you realize how ridiculous this sounds to anyone outside of Provo? That sentence reeks of stretching very hard to make some sort of point. By the way, what do you make of the 2004 team that had an avg victory margin of over 25 points? I'll assume you'll say something about schedule? EXACTLY the point of the article!

Dutchman -

"Sure beats being the most popular school in the nation. LOL"

Ummmm, okay?

Swoop -

"It was BYU forcing the BCS to relax their exclusionary non-AQ rules that allowed Utah to be the first BCS buster."

Are you serious? That could not be more incorrect, it was BYU that caused the BCS to happen when they went undefeated in '84 and outraged the majority of the nation who knew it wasn't real.

Keep coming with this stuff guys and the rest of us will keep laughing it up and knocking it down.
Too easy.

Anne26
West Jordan, UT

Utah has a great opportunity, and I expect them to get better and better as the years go on. With the money that will be coming in, they will be able to continue to build a national program.

I have to laugh at the BYU fans who feel the need to comment negatively on this article. They are like a broken record: "But we were relevant in the '80's!!" True, but then so was Madonna.

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Duckhunter

First - Nice signing of Troy Hinds. So far the Y's recruits are very respectable (several 3 stars and a couple 4 stars). Let's see how it plays out. Last year the Y's signings as of this time was also fairly respectable; however, in the last days of signing the Y signed five 2 stars who collective had 0 other offers. Who of the 87 recruits (Rivals) listing the Y as a school of preference will sign? At the same time who of the 250 recruits (Rivals) listing the U as a school of preference will sign with them?

Also, does it have to pointed out to you that the quote regarding Utah as past king of the MWC was from the Arizona Citizen paper. Obviously they are the ones with a "Nice utah (sic) fan delusion." Good luck with the 95th easiest (Phil Steele) schedule this year. (I did see where you were favored to beat Idaho State - just as Weber State was.) Hard to imagine a schedule where more than two losses would be a disapointment. Actually it's not too hard to imagine - I see it on your website.

CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

I follow his rationale but disagree with his conclusion. I still Utah is undefeated every year and loses to BYU every time.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Ute-chute,

"Sugar Bowl aganst a Tide team that did not want to be there"

You didn't see the game did you? Admit it. Most BYU fans who make a comment like this haven't. In the second half the tide came to within one touch down of tying the score. All they had to do was kick off the Utah and force a punt then get the ball back to score again. They were on fire. Instead Utah takes the kick off and goes on a 80 yard drive consuming 7 minutes to seal the deal. The tide were certainly in the game at that point and wanted to be there. Utah was just the better team.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Look at where this article is coming from: Arizona. Remember them? They persuaded Arizona State to jump ship from the WAC into the PAC 8, makling it into the PAC 10 several years ago. Just how many times during the intervening years has either Arizona State or Arizona won the PAC 10? How many times has either gone to the Rose Bowl or won that contest? I think maybe there's a little too much heat in Arizona to think clearly and deciding suddenly that Utah is the most important team in college football is just plain too funny. I might have agreed with them after the Utes thrashed Alabama in the Sugar Bowl (which I applauded, by-the-way) but after their season last year, starting with Notre Dame, reflections of their losing 27 - 0 to UNLV in Las Vegas come flashing back. But this is great comedy...I love it!

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Money can't buy the kind of publicity the Utes are getting as the first team in the modern BCS era to earn an invite to one of the BCS conferences. This will pay dividends for a long time.

I'm glad BYU has something to crow about today as well with Troy Hinds committing. Hopefully BYU's football program will still be relevant in 4 years when Hinds first takes the field in a BYU jersey along with Mangum.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"Hopefully BYU's football program will still be relevant in 4 years when Hinds first takes the field in a BYU jersey along with Mangum"

It will be curious to see if Hinds takes his five offical visits later this year. Notre Dame has proven to be the masters of last minute swaying. It would also be interesting how bronka would handle it....

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

toosmartforyou -

"I think maybe there's a little too much heat in Arizona to think clearly and deciding suddenly that Utah is the most important team in college football is just plain too funny."

With the point of the article being that the BCS is the biggest topic in college football on a day-to-day basis - whether for or against it - it's easy to see that Utah is the most important team to watch this year. They're not saying you have to like Utah.
Please comment again by answering this:
If Utah was to go to a BCS bowl game in their first year in the Pac12 do you not think it would be a major topic nationally as to the validity of the BCS? Mind you I'm not predicting it to happen, nor would many nationwide...but then that's the exact point of the article, right? And it's the same reason it speaks of BYU and other non-BCS teams as hoping Utah shows up this year or in the next few at least. It would be the strongest point to their argument yet.
This is not rocket science.

Uteology
Fort Worth, Texas

@Swoop
There was no BCS cartel in 1984. The BCS cartel prevented the ONLY undefeated team in the nation a shot at the title in 2008.

Actually, history shows that BYU proved the BCS was correct when in 2001 it overlooked 12-0 BYU for a BCS birth. The worst 12-0 team in history got pummeled and finished 12-2.

@ute-chute (aka Buster)

If the Tide wanted to be in the national title game then they should have beat Florida. Similar to 2009 Oregon State in Vegas when they lost to Oregon for a Rose Bowl birth.

BTW missed FG and bad calls are are part of the game. For example, in 2008 when BYU survived a scare by 0-12 Washington 27-28 because of a bad call that lead to a missed extra point.

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