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Published: Tuesday, Aug. 2 2011 6:00 p.m. MDT

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Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

Sarah Palin is the latest Tea-Party to speak out against Joe Biden's alleged likening of tea party lawmakers in debt-ceiling negotiations to terrorists, saying that his words were appalling and vile?. The word was used by several members of Congress. The vice president does not believe it's an appropriate term in political discourse. Glenn Beck leaves no doubt about how he feels about the deficit reduction bill that President Barack Obama and Congress finally agreed upon, calling the "big compromise" a betrayal. But to who?. Let's see. The big compromise on Capitol Hill features elaborate triggers, tranches, Hornswogglers, Snozzwangers, Super Duper Commissions that will make the Snozzberries taste like Snozeberries, and a whole bunch of other convoluted gibberish that will, no doubt, come with loopholes and create entire new bureaucracies. All while leaving out "The Koch Brother's" fully. The billionaire brothers have funded and fostered the Tea Party movement as a well-disguised means to pursue their private political agenda. The Patriot Act's money laundering provisions, where are they today?. Did Hatch write a amendment to add it back in yet?. Hatch is done come 2012, who cares about his re-election bid, Utah hates him more.

salt lake city, utah

Senator Hatch you can spin this anyway you want but you have been in the senate 35 years and you have always voted to increase the debt limit. yes the democrats deserve some of the blame for this mess but you and the republican deserve blame also. when President Clinton left office he left a budget surplus which quickly disappeared with president bush and the republicans in congress but i believe you voted for the bush tax cuts the drug prescription bill and supported
2 unfunded wars. As a senator for 35 years i thought you would be a leader in trying to find a solution to the debt crises instead of drawing a firm line with
cut cap and balance. Sorry but after this recent mess in washington i think it is time for you to be defeated

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Barvo to Hatch on voting the right way.

However, I would be happier if I thought it was based on core principles and real opposition to continued deficit spending, instead of a pre-election costume change to resemble a tea partier.

Both Hatch and Lee should be cautioned that while a Balanced Budget Amendment sounds great and in theory should be a real help, in the long run it may be nothing more than pious words. There is no lack of talent or precedent for Congress being able to weasel their way out of virtually any situation, or to defeat safeguards with creative accounting, deceptive definitions, etc.

The only answer is to actually cut spending, starting with ending the ridiculous "baseline budgeting" scheme that automatically inflates everything every year, and changing entitlements.

American people need to hear the truth about the fixes needed, not just hiding behind the "Balanced Budget Amendment" and pretending that it will somehow force COngress to do things that Hatch and his 534 associates have thus far refused to do.

We need to throw more of the bums out until we get people with the guts to do what is necessary. It's for the Children!

Provo, Utah

Grandstanding by increasingly irrelevant politicians. The right way to vote was for the debt limit increase. Has anyone bothered to watch what kind of nervousness this caused in the financial sector.

We need more jobs. People with no hope are sinking into desperation. Unemployed professionals over fifty see no one willing to take a risk on them.

The real unemployment rate is nearing 18%. The housing market is still dead.

Let's stop acting like little children and get the country back to work!

Beverly Hills, CA

Hatch is a chameleon that stood by as Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton ran up the deficit and now he is a fiscal conservative?

Lee has already indicated he supports big banks. What a bunch of silly representation.

On the other hand
Spanish Fork, UT

Orrin Hatch used to be this guy who could reach across the aisle, find common ground with the other side, and make good things happen. Lately, he's been so desperate to pander to the extreme right faction of his party that I hardly recognize our formerly reasonable senator. I think most of his constituents would be dissatisfied with his stance on this issue and many others. Anybody remember Aesop's fable about the man, the boy, and the donkey?

Brother Chuck Schroeder
A Tropical Paradise USA, FL

It's the economy stupid. Where's all those GOP jobs?. A series of weak economic reports and poor earnings reports from several big companies spurred the decline. A sell-off erased this year's gains in the stock market as investors grew increasingly concerned about the economy. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 265.87 points, or 2.2 percent, to 11,866.62. The Dow has lost 858 points, or 6.7 percent, in the last eight trading days. The survey also found that House Speaker John Boehner gets the highest approval marks among prominent members of Congress who played key roles in the agreement. In the poll of more than 1,500 registered voters, 44 percent of respondents said they approve of the legislation, but 47 percent don't like it, and the rest have no opinion. Most interestingly, just 38 percent of Republicans approve, so we can now understand why Republican candidates say they oppose the bill: They have pollsters, too, and understand the opposition among GOP voters. Independents are even more disapproving, 78 percent say they don't approve of the performance in Washington. Obama won by Independents. He'll win by Independents again in 2012. Mark my words.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

The tea party rules Utah.The radical right will stay in that small corner. Hatch had a chance to rise above the ignorance, but he is now a puppet.

payson, utah

The tea party is not the radical right. They are actual conservatives. Unlike the previous "republican conservatives." Being a republican is not being a conservative. Luckily conservatives are taking control of republican party. Hopefully the elite will quit.

This nation is far from being fixed. The debt deal does nothing. Just imagine how awesome it would be if we had an economy that didn't depend on this. Imagine how free you would be if you weren't in debt. Imagine how free you could be when you don't have to depend on the government. I wasn't worried during these talks. I am set up that I will perfectly fine if the government did pass a deal or did not pass one. That is how you are suppose to be.

East Carbon, UT

Boy talk about misinformed, I read an article earlier today that said Mr. Hatch voted yes... I was so upset I sent him a blistering letter. Then tonight I read he voted no. I emailed him an apology! I feel terrible... it took me forever to find out how he voted.. I probably got on some liberal site.. anyways, Mr. Hatch thank you for voting NO.. my respect for you has been restored.. you and Mr. Lee are both Patriot! God Bless and again I am sorry!

Howard Beal
Provo, UT


So do you think Nancy Pelosi is a true patriot? I didn't think so.

Gotta love extreme politics. It was like what my political science professor taught me at BYU (yes a conservative university even). The extreme Left and the extreme Right end up being in the same place in the end...

Kearns, UT

Although I think Hatch is trustfully repentance for his past behavior due to ignorance and he is now on the right path of the right choices for the right reasons he should turn over his seat to a younger and more energetic statesman to carry on his new found beliefs.

Hatch has the ability and in the proper place in national government to become a statesman for the United States and the defeat of tiereny and despotic government of the Obama regime. He should become a supporter of America and the American dream of independence and free will.

Highlands Ranch, CO

That's right people! Just continue to play the blame game, which is what both parties and the media want you to do. While they continue to placate the people, they've yet to make any serious decision that would provide the medicine this economy needs. A balanced budget amendment is a MUST. But, it must go further than that - all politics must be set aside and tough decisions made. As I've said in previous posts posts however, I fear it is too late. BOTH parties have dug us into a hole that is too deep to climb out of. Keep your eye on China. When they drop the dollar as the favored currency and Standard and Poor's drops our rating, it's all over! And Washington's continued "knee-jerk" reactions (the federal reserve included), won't do a thing.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

They are both officially useless.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

The 12 member super congress will unconstitutionally have the power to override any vote the other members of congress vote No on if it's something the ruling class wants done or doesn't want done.

Anti Bush-Obama
Washington, DC

Hatch did this for theatrics. I wouldn't be suprised if he is on the republicrat super congress that will led us to a dictatorship.

Ogden, UT

@Brother Chuck Schroeder "The billionaire brothers have funded and fostered the Tea Party movement" The CA. Lib has struck again. Does the name George Soros ring a bell, a man proven to incite financial chaos. He seems to me to be funding your side of the fence. Like the Great Pretender!

one old man
Ogden, UT

Everyone out there should Google up "Policy Changes Under Two Presidents" if the want to see the truth.

This examines New Policies under Bush and Obama. NEW policies that changed the flow of our tax dollars without including continuing policies from previous administrations.

What does it show? Under Bush, $5.07 billion in new spending. Under Obama, $1.44 billion -- with a $126 billion saving in defense spending.

Under Bush: $1.47 trillion in unfunded wars; $1.81 trillion in tax cuts; $608 billion in non-defense discretionary spending (Obama = $278 billion) and so on.

Take a look at this report and then tell us WHO is the more profligate spender?

Ogden, UT

As in his entire political career, Senator Hatch will continue to ride the fence until he no longer holds the office.

This man has constantly and without fail assessed the political climate in the state he "represents" and find a way to secure the support of the majority.

In an email asking about the jeopardy Social Security retirement and disability benefits might be in, he replied to me by stating that he was coauthor of Senate Bill 2014 wherein he continues to support Social Security and seniors and the disableds' rights.

Yesterday when it was clear that the debt bill would indeed pass, he saw himself free to cast a no vote, thereby making it appear that he supports the agenda of the Tea Party.

That, of course, is his main objective now as he is fearful that Representative Jason Chaffetz is about to do to him what Mike Lee did to Bob Bennett and he, too, will find himself defeated at the polls.

Senator Hatch is as slippery as any politician who has held the office. He will, as long as he is in office and physically able to run, say and do anything to win an election.

Roosevelt, UT

Could we possibly expect less?

Two reps from Utah and they represent their own hope for re-election rather than the voice of the people.

If there had been no agreement I bet these two yokels would not have been bragging about the debacle the country would have been in.

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