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Published: Monday, Aug. 1 2011 7:00 p.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Yes, people will be hurt, and that is unfortunate.

However, we are out of money, and 43 cents of every dollar spent today is money that hwe have to borrow from somewhere, and eventually pay back with interest.

The free lunch is over, and people will have to find new jobs, new sources of income and new sources of help. Even if every dollar of income and wealth of 'the Rich" was confiscated, it would not bring revenue anywhere near what Congress is spending now or planning to spend.

There is no other choice than to cut programs, good programs, long standing programs.

If your personal lifestyle was based on running up bills on credit cards all the time and never paying them off, eventually no one would give you another credit card. Your problem is spending too much, not the credit card people for refusing to loan you more money you obviously cannot pay back.

We are out of money. Deal with it.

Then explain to your children and grandchildren why they will be paying outrageous tax rates all their lives to cover the money already spent on all the wonderful government programs we cannot afford.

T-Jeff
Uinta Basin, Utah

Of course people are worried. That's what happens when someone promises you free stuff but then you find out that they have nothing, only what they take from somebody else. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

Utah shouldn't worry too much. Representative Bishop voted to increase the debt another 2+ Trillion dollars so I imagine Obama will let a little of it trickle down here.

Esquire
Springville, UT

I wish I could believe Ken Ivory. The GOP way is to protect the wealthy and corporate interests. A small tax increase at the federal level and the turn around in the economy will make this issue go away, and the Republicans can create another crisis on another issue. Some common sense is needed, but the GOP wold rather amass more power and control than do the right thing.

Rocket Science
Brigham City, UT

budget experts . . . agreed the measure falls far short of the drastic action needed to address America's massive and long-term structural debt problem.

"A drop in the bucket, or even spit in the ocean," chuckled Maya MacGuineas, president of the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

But this is nowhere close to the amount of savings we need to really get on top of this deficit and debt challenge,"

"We're on course to borrow about $10 or 11 trillion over the next 10 years. ... .And $2.5 trillion in savings over 10 years is not going to fix the problem. It's not even going to set us on the right course quite yet."

Wow! What a great compromise - too little too late

thebig1
SLC, UT

"21,000 state workers, including some 4,500 who depend on federal funds for at least half of their salaries".

Holy cow 21,000 state workers, no wonder we are running out of money. We had better cut all their bennies and retirement and about 1/2 of those jobs. 21,000 that is out of whack. Gov't has grown into a monster that is about to take itself down. UTA a complete out of control money pit

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Ahhh, there's that good old compasionate conservatism we hear so much about during campaigns.

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Please cut spending....."just not mine or ours."

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

pragmatistforlife,
the author of that campaign slogan served his two terms. Amazing how you libs all go back to him when you don't get everything 100% your way.

Esquire,
how much is enough? how much of someone else's money do you think we should take? The more you take, the more BO will spend.

A sufficient turn-around in the economy will not happen as long as BO is president. BO is too anti-business.

How can we have a turn-around when Obamacare creates barriers to new hiring?

How can we have a turn-around when BO sues companies trying to expand production capacity? (see Boeing's attempt to build a new plant in SC).

How can we have a turn-around when BO is doing everything he can, by-passing congress (the house of the people) to place cap and tax through ridiculous EPA regulations?

How can we have a turn-around when BO creates so much uncertainty?

How can we have a turn-around with the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world, creating incentive to relocate overseas?

Tax all you want and it won't do any good because BO prevents a turn-around.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

It would be interesting to see how many extra buses UTA could put on the road if they lowered the dozens of salaries above 100k per year to under 100k per year.

I guess as long as they feel they're ENTITLED to ridiculous salaries, NO WORRIES!

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'It would be interesting to see how many extra buses UTA could put on the road if they lowered the dozens of salaries above 100k per year to under 100k per year.' - Fitness Freak | 8:30 a.m. Aug. 2, 2011

Supported:

*'UTA compensation sees sharp increase following 'secret' survey' - By John Daley - KSL - 05/17/10
'UTA's top man, General Manager and CEO John Inglish, was paid $330,000 in 2005. For the next five years, he was paid a similar sum, until 2009 when it jumped to nearly $350,000.'

Want other examples of federal dependance?

*'Herbert seeks disaster declaration for Utah as a result of floods' - By Amy Joi O'Donoghue - DSNews - 01/21/11

Cut everything...except my pay.

*'Chaffetz blasts federal pay raises, except his own' - By Becky Bruce - DSNews - 11/10/10

'Each member of the House and Senate earned $174,000 this year. (sic)
When asked whether $174,000 is too much, Chaffetz pointed instead to the overall congressional budget and said it needs to be revamped.

"It doesn't mean that everybody's going to get an individual pay cut," Chaffetz said."

And people wonder why the gov. has no money?

ClarkKent
Bountiful, Utah

Why should the federal govt pay one cent to extend TRAX?

tom_e
Kaysville, UT

The attitude of half the country (those who don't really pay any taxes) is "It is your money and I want it now". Now some of these people are worried. Their handouts might be decreased or worse yet they might have to pay taxes.

DeltaFoxtrot
West Valley, UT

Weren't Utahns the ones who so proudly said we didn't need Federal money?

Our only hope for recovery lies in booting the Obama administration out of office. They are so anti-business it's scary and the regulations Obama can't pass through Congress he has the all powerful EPA put into effect instead.

I hate to remind the President, but the only body authorized by our Constitution to pass laws is Congress. Why the Supreme Court hasn't put a stop to the EPA yet I have no clue, they're supposed to be the constitutionality check.

Kami
Bountiful, Utah

So I guess the conservative State of Utah wants to cut US gov't spending EXCEPT for the funds it sends to Utah??? Put your money where your mouth is. If you want to cut gov't spending, stop taking the money folks.

utesovertide
Salt Lake City, UT

I keep hearing that we should tax the rich Americans and the corporations that are flush with cash. I keep hearing that these "rich patriots" as BO calls them are ready and willing to pay more in taxes. Warren Buffet has said he supports being taxed more and would love to contribute more to the government and the country.

Well, what's stopping them? No one needs to wait on Congress to pass legislation to pay more in taxes. If you send more money to the IRS I'm sure they won't refuse it.

So, why aren't these "rich patriots" just sending in a few million more on their tax bills?

Simple. They don't want to be at a disadvantage relative to their other rich buddies who aren't on the same page of generosity.

This is why we need tax reform and need a flat tax so that everyone pays the same percentage in taxes which would dampen class warfare and get the 50% of Americans who pay no income tax to start contributing at least a little bit to this great country.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'If you want to cut gov't spending, stop taking the money folks.' - Kami | 9:07 a.m. Aug. 2, 2011

Supported:

*'Herbert seeks disaster declaration for Utah as a result of floods' - By Amy Joi O'Donoghue - DSNews - 01/21/11

*Gov. Herbert declares state of emergency as 2011 flood season nears climax By Ladd Brubaker DSNews 06/27/11

*'Rick Perry (R-Gov./Tx), After Raising Secession, Calls For Fed Help With Swine Flu' - Huffington Post - 04/27/09

*'E-mail raises new questions about influence of Herbert campaign contributions' - By John Daley and Lisa Riley Roche - Deseret News - 09/28/10

That $13 million dollar settlement?

It 'only' came from federal money.

Kami's comments are supported. If you don't like federal money...

stop being first in line to ask for it.

MelancholyMe
Ogden, UT

The problem with handouts is that it is soon forgotten that it was an act of kindness, one person helping another. It quickly changes to an entitlement, something that is deserved and owed. It can't be taken away.

People with a hand out looking for help should be aware that when times get tough the pool of people that are able to help shrinks dramatically, soon there is no one left to ask for help. You will be left on your own to take care of your self. That is sad, but it is our future.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

The workers dependent on federal dollars for their pay are rightfully concerned about cuts in federal monies. But, the modest amount agreed to is hardly a threat less than 5% cut over ten years, which is less than the annual growth of 8% projected for the period. The total amount of spending for this year is 7 billion dollars, which is not even 1% of this years budget. Now if the partisans try to make all cuts on descretionary spending things could get pretty difficult. And, defense spending is already targeted to get heavier cuts than others because of the 50/50 agreement for the next round if cuts do not meet the cap targets. Solutions are available that are modest, and while requiring sacrifice from all doable. Remember that the major reductions in employment to this point have come in the private sector. The pubic sector can not be immune to the transition of the country from a financial goliath to a very timid david on the day he left his slingshot home.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

The spendthrift child e-mails(texts)his father:

No "Mon", No fun your son...

The father e-mails(texts)his son:

Too bad so sad your Dad.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Utahns anxiously awaiting details on federal budget cuts' - Title

But no one cared, before....

* 'Bush Administration Adds $4 Trillion To National Debt' - by Mark Knoller - CBS News - 09/29/08

'It'll be the 7th time the debt limit (ceiling) has been raised during this administration. In fact it was just two months ago, on July 30, that President Bush signed the Housing and Economic Recovery Act, which contained a provision raising the debt ceiling to $10.615 trillion.'

Who got support from:

'But that has mainly to do with the fact that Republicans control both houses of the Legislature (in Utah), hold all statewide offices and about 60 percent of the state's population is Mormon, a reliable GOP constituency.'

In a story written by By Josh Loftin, Associated Press - Published by DSNews - 07/31/2011

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