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  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 2, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    @Chris Bryant,

    So why is his comment an opinion and mine is not? Go figure!

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    Aug. 2, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    @thebigsamoan

    grow up dude. He has no "rage", he isn't a "hater". He is expressing an opinion. if you don't like it, feel free to not troll Ute articles.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 2, 2011 9:58 a.m.

    @Tomahawk Red,

    It's haters like you that makes me cheer the more for BYU to be wildly successful. Nothing will be sweeter than to see them achieve great success with their newly independent course. And if it makes your eyes redder with rage, so much the better.

    And like I said several times before in previous posts, I do hope the Utes will kick some serious tails in the Pac 12 and then loose to BYU every time they meet. Of course that's not realistic but if it ever happen, it'll be yummy sweet.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    Aug. 2, 2011 3:47 a.m.

    sammyg | 6:14 p.m. Aug. 1, 2011
    Springville, UT
    This jealousy thing is thrown around about as much as a trillion dollars in a budget debate in Washington D.C.

    There's very little a BYU fan would be jealous of, especially going to Las Vegas each year.

    ----------

    Yes!!! I can always count on you pal, for an easy slam dunk.

    You are so right... us Ute fans desperately want to be a mid-major indy with no bowl ties and a guaranteed BCS game only if we finish in the top 2. We also want your reputation as the number one most-ridiculed college in the nation, thanks in large part to your honor code and annual "cold sober" trophy you always win.

    Yeah... we desperately want that. Ha ha ha!

    Here's some more truth for ya...

    BYU fans the world over would LOVE to trade places with Utah right now. Meanwhile, not one single (let me emphasize, one single) Ute fan on the planet would want to trade places with BYU.

    Game. Set. Match.

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Aug. 2, 2011 12:29 a.m.

    Sammyg,

    ***I don't see how a team that rarely won conference championships is going to succeed in a bigger, supposedly better conference on a weekly basis.***

    Same thing could be said about your team. How are they supposed to succeed not being in a league? They have only won the same amount of championships in the MWC as Utah, 4. So, are you predicting a failure on your teams part?

    Welcome to the helicopter bowl, home of... really I'm not sure anybody's ever heard of it before. Of course, that is if your team can become squeak by and get bowl eligible again this year.

  • MUSSing with U Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 1, 2011 11:58 p.m.

    PAC12Fan

    "The tiny little stadium will expand multiple times to over 70,000 as the local fence sitters want the better product and the locals that move into our community adopt the team that has more in common. Most of our population influx is coming from the Western States and our state is growing quickly."

    Dr. Hill isn't going to waste millions expanding RES so it can become another HC -- just another place where fans come disguised as empty red chairs.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:36 p.m.

    @KH

    AntiBCS simply nailed it.

    After the Utes lost so badly last year and after Coach Whit made his remark about the Las Vegas Bowl a couple of years ago and along with all the snarky comments about BYU playing there I think it's quite fitting that the LV Bowl could become a regular thing for the Utes. Instead of the Las Vegas Maaco Bowl we can call it the PAC Doormat Bowl.

    I don't see how a team that rarely won conference championships is going to succeed in a bigger, supposedly better conference on a weekly basis. I don't buy it and I don't think that all the money in China that the Utes will be getting in the future will make a difference and allow them to catch up to the likes of Stanford, USC and Oregon.

    Welcome to Las Vegas, home of the PAC Doormat Bowl.

  • UtahUte16 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:34 p.m.

    Duckhunter

    I thought you weren't to post on Utah articles anymore? Obsessed much?

    DC

    "Nobody outside of Utah really cares about the Utes."

    And yet you are commenting on this Ute article all the way from Virginia. Hmmmm

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:18 p.m.

    @DC: If you don't care why did you bother posting a comment? It's about time you come to grips with the reality that you really do care and you really do harbor some jealousy about the UTES and our entrance into the conference of champions!!

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    Duck hunter, Pitt played at res last year. North Carolina played here a few years ago. So did a crappy team from Florida back in the Ronnie Mac years. Don't come often, but they do come. I think the point is that Utah fans want to see east coast teams on the schedule more often.

  • Thlete Draper, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:09 p.m.

    @Duckhunter, I'm pretty sure Pitt is an "east coast" team. We are doing the return trip for the home and home this year at Pitt. You do remember they opened at Utah last September, right? Please try to tell me that Pitt isn't a prestigious east coast team.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:07 p.m.

    @ Duckhunter

    I would prefer the Utes play on the road back east.......people get to see them play. However, there are already plans for expanding the stadium and I'm sure any team back east would love to come to PAC-12 Utah. I would just like to dump BYU and their fans.......absurd!

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:03 p.m.

    And zero comments. Zero. The article is 2 days old. Nobody outside of Utah really cares about the Utes. This doesn't change the fact that they have a great opportunity before them. They do, but nobody outside of Utah really cares much. It's a good thing Utah has a rivalry with BYU or else no one would say much about them. Or see them this next season.

  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:57 p.m.

    12 tweets about the Utah being in the Pac 12 article. All those Utah fans outside the state getting the word out about Utah's next BCS season, I guess.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:57 p.m.

    @mgr

    Well if you'd prefer to play "east coast" teams then prepare yourself to play on the east coast. None of them will come to utah's quaint little stadium. None of them ever have. Ever. utah will go to thier place and then that will be it. No return trip. No chance.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:51 p.m.

    Anti Bcs

    The tiny little stadium has been sold out for 5 straight years.

    The tiny little stadium is already sold out this year.

    The tiny little stadium will expand multiple times to over 70,000 as the local fence sitters want the better product and the locals that move into our community adopt the team that has more in common. Most of our population influx is coming from the Western States and our state is growing quickly.

    Your Cougars will always be popular but the items many mock are changing. Utah will always be the minority but the Utah contingency is growing. it will happen.

    Question: Is it better to be invited as a stranger rathern than not having been invited at all?

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:24 p.m.

    Go to any of the sports boards and see how many football fans despise BYU fans......sad. Utah should say goodbye and good luck.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:18 p.m.

    @anti BCS

    Bigger and better times for the Utes. Playing BYU isn't prestigious anymore, yesterday's news, so why do it? The Utes have moved into the big time. Enjoy all those WAC home games.......yawn.

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:08 p.m.

    Can the byu/Utah game end after this year, please? It has to be the most annoying rivalry in sports.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    KH

    Utah defined the Las Vegas as a place PAC 12 teams go to get destroyed -- see Oregon, Oregon State, and Utah.

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    Aug. 1, 2011 9:04 p.m.

    mgr63

    "I think Utah should curtail the BYU games after 2012. There are a ton of more worthwhile schools the Utes can play against on the east coast."

    Wishful thinking.

    Just be grateful BYU isn't demanding a two-for-one to play in that cute little stadium on the hill.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 7:16 p.m.

    "There's very little a BYU fan would be jealous of, especially going to Las Vegas each year."

    Wasn't it byu that went to the vegas bowl four years in a row? You probably shouldn't bash the bowl game that defines your team.

    You speak of Utah going to the Vegas bowl each year based on your prediction alone and nothing else. Yet byu has gone to the vegas bowl four years in a row. The only reason they didn't go to the vegas bowl this year was because they weren't good enough. They went to a lesser bowl.

    You should think your comments through a little bit more.

  • mgr63 DALLAS, TX
    Aug. 1, 2011 6:41 p.m.

    All this needless banter with BYU fans.........? I think Utah should curtail the BYU games after 2012. There are a ton of more worthwhile schools the Utes can play against on the east coast. We shouldn't play ALL our games against west coast programs. Go Utes!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 6:14 p.m.

    This jealousy thing is thrown around about as much as a trillion dollars in a budget debate in Washington D.C.

    There's very little a BYU fan would be jealous of, especially going to Las Vegas each year.

  • Dave S Holladay, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 4:32 p.m.

    Re: Vegas

    Nice comments from an obvious jealous little brother!!

  • Vegas Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 1, 2011 4:04 p.m.

    @Dutchman

    Well, we now know there are 2 sober Utes.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    Two interesting news articles today:

    #1 Two Utah Students were awarded Fullbright scholarships.

    #2 BYU was again named the nation's #1 stone cold sober university.

  • SportsCenter Olympus Cove, Utah
    Aug. 1, 2011 2:56 p.m.

    There are way too many questions concerning Jordan Wynn to expect anything better than a 7-5 record this year.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 1, 2011 2:31 p.m.

    Utah had a couple of good seasons, but now it's back to reality:

    Utah 6-6 - with a humiliating loss to BYU

    BYU 10-2

    THE university of Utah is indeed Brigham Young University!

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    @ KamUte | 10:59 a.m. Aug. 1, 2011

    Interesting. I say 8 wins but w/ losses to USC, Pitt, UAz, & Oregon St.

    Then a trip to the Poinsettia Bowl.

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    @LehiUte

    I guess my sarcasm wasn't thick enough for you to catch on......

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    Aug. 1, 2011 1:58 p.m.

    jefferysl, agreed.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    Chris B and KamUte

    Start getting your excuses ready for the beatdown your Utes will suffer on Sept. 17. (We all know how Chrissy's predictions go in regards to BYU). I predict that on Sept. 18, while sitting on a 1-2 record with defeats to USC and BYU, some Ute faithful will already begin the call for Wittingham's and Chow's heads.

  • LehiUte Lehi, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 1:41 p.m.

    Vegas and Chris Bryant,

    With a conference that already includes Oregon and Stanford, who are both in the top 10 if not the top 5 currently, and the tradition and multiple national championships of the likes of USC and others, of course Utah is not going to add to the prestige that already existed for the Pac-10. However, to say that Utah doesn't add value to the conference as the top BCS buster in the country (more wins against BCS teams than any other non-BCS school up to this point) is ignorant.

    The future is very bright at Utah. Obviously, there will be some growing pains now that the program is eating at the big boys' table. But wouldn't you rather have the Rose Bowl to shoot for every year, rather than the mighty Las Vegas Bowl (or worse) as the MWC champ or an independent?

  • sports fan Provo, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 1:27 p.m.

    Why do we have to go to the Denver post to get decent Utah articles? Desnews needs to step up their game as far as stories on the Utes are concerned.

  • jefferysl Huntsville, Alabama
    Aug. 1, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    UW fan here. Utah is hardly space filler. They may take the South Division outright. Those in the know will nod their heads; ignorant clowns will say it is because the PAC-12 is a weak conference. I believe that the USC game will be an interesting test. USC will be out coached and I also believe the emotional factors will be with Utah. Unfortunately, USC's offense is much more potent (talent wise) than Utah's offense. Defensively, I might have to give Utah the edge. they are well coached with good athletes, whereas USC's defense, despite having a who's who of highly recruited talent, was pretty inconsistent last year. I think I read somewhere that they were pretty weak against the pass. My Dawgs beat'em last year in LA. Anyway, your Fall pratices start on Thursday! (Huskies start next week on the 8th). First year of the new PAC-12 is here!

  • Coach Biff Lehi, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 1:04 p.m.

    Utah is scaring a lot of people in the Pac right now. They are well coached from top to bottom. Their recruiting has been stellar. Coach Whittingham has them in perfect position to make a run at the PAC and possibly the BCS. And before any snarky comments come my way let me qualify my statements: I bleed blue, Cougar blue. As a high school coach, I've been able to observe both BYU and Utah this year. They'll both give us great football in the state for years to come.

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 1:00 p.m.

    Vegas,

    A credible post if ever there was one.

  • Chewbacca Magna, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    Oh Vegas, you do make a fine whine from your sour, sour grapes!

  • LehiUte Lehi, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 12:48 p.m.

    I'm optimistic about the Utes, overall, and very excited to see some great games and new traditions in the Pac-12, but to think that this team is going to waltz in and go 10-2 or 9-3 is a little too optimistic, I believe. I'm a die-hard Ute fan, but I think we need to consider that Utah is not as deep as most of the Pac-12 teams and doesn't yet have the full impact of the newly-garnered Pac-12 recruiting prowess. It will take time to develop that depth.

    Wynn has a lot to prove after struggling the entire second half of the season last year (anyone remember the TCU, Notre Dame, and BYU games, in particular?) and the backup QB situation is tenuous. However, I love the new talent coming in, the addition of Chow, the pro-style offense that is geared more for a QB like Wynn, and the fact that Whittingham is still the head guy. He knows how to win.

    Finally, I caution fellow Ute fans about dismissing BYU. They will always be THE major rival and a tough competitor, even without conference affiliation.

    GO UTES.

  • Vegas Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 1, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    Larry Scott's interview on a San Diego Sports radio program proves how highly regarded Utah is in the PAC-12.

    Question: The PAC-10 had always been considered a strong conference of very respected teams. Does the addition of these two teams make the PAC-12 conference more prestigious?

    Scott: Not really.

    So, Utah is nothing more than a place-filler to make a championship game possible.

  • SouthernUtahUte Hurricane, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    I think every Utah fan hopes we go 11-1 and play for a Rose Bowl berth. If Jordan Wynn plays 100%, our running backs pan out, and the secondary is strong (which it always is at Utah) There is a definite possibility to have a great season.

    No predictions for me. Just one Utah fan who is excited for the priviledge to watch the Utes to take on such a great league.

    Go UTES!!!! The future is Rosey!!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    however it pans out; this will be Utah's toughest season ever.
    8-4 would be a good season. Anything more would be a bonus.

    I see there are those who still have a TDS inferiority complex. Probably won't change soon.
    I predict they will lose the BYU game by at least 10.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Aug. 1, 2011 12:02 p.m.

    Alterego,

    6-6 helecopter bowl

    or

    11-1 helecopter bowl

  • Alterego Ogden, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 11:37 a.m.

    6-6 and the vegas bowl

  • jim l West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 11:37 a.m.

    You have to be kidding. Utah would cancel the game with BYU (just like they did with Boise State) just to avoid another loss if they could. They are going to get a heaping tablespoon of beat in sept.

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:59 a.m.

    My prediction is 8-4 with losses at USC, Pittsburgh, Arizona State and California. Losing to BYU would feel like losing to Utah State. Not going to happen.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 1, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    The future of football in Utah, is Utah.

    I'm guessing 10-2 record, certainly with no losses to any "non-AQ" teams.