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Published: Friday, July 29 2011 12:16 a.m. MDT

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Mike L
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Although your explanations are rational, they are not factual. If you read Joseph Smith's own writings, in addition to the writings of Brigham Young, John Taylor, even apostles in the 1960s and 70's spoke (and wrote) about polygamy being the "new and everlasting covenant" that was spoken of by Joseph Smith, and that for now, it means "Eternal Marriage".. which INCLUDES polygamous marriages in the afterlife.

To deny this fact is denying Joseph Smith and the aforementioned prophets, as a unified voice, are wrong.

Do some reading beyond your Gospel Essentials book.

Mike L
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

D&C 132 is all about the eternal covenant of plural marriage.

In 1966 Bruce R McConkie also said that polygamy will commence again after the Second Coming of the Son of Man and the ushering in of the millennium. Talk to your Stake President or a Temple Worker. They will not deny plural marriage is an eternal principle.. because it is!

Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

@Mike L

If polygamy is an eternal principle, then it can't be banned or temporally discontinued due to political pressure. It is a fact that the church did stop the practice of polygamy in 1890 and again a few years later, and that tells me polygamy is a policy or practice and not an eternal principle. In addition, in the BoM, Jacob 2:28-30, the Lord said that if he wants polygamy, he will command it; otherwise they should have one wife. It seems pretty clear that polygamy is a policy or practice and not an eternal principle.

I'm not saying that there will be no polygamy in the afterlife. I'm just saying that polygamy is a practice that was discontinued 1890. When the church discontinued polygamy, and today when it excommunicates people who practice polygamy, I don't think the church is saying anything about polygamy in the afterlife. It is dealing with a policy about marriage that was changed in 1890 and is not in effect today.

Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

@Mike L

It is important that we realize polygamy is a policy or practice and not an eternal principle, because if polygamy is an eternal principle, it can't be discontinued, and we all should leave the church and join one of the fundamentalist groups that believe in polygamy. However, since polygamy is a policy or practice, it can be started or stopped anytime the Lord wants to do that. Thus, the statement in Jacob 2:30 that the Lord will command it when he wants the people to practice it, otherwise we should have one wife.

I do believe we will have polygamy in the afterlife, but we can't say who will and who won't have it. You mentioned your father. He was "sealed" to his first wife and later had a civil divorce from her. He was "sealed" to his second wife. These sealings were just promises of what might happen in the future. Maybe, in the next life, he will be actually sealed to both women. Maybe only to the first or only to the second, or to none. We don't know. The LORD WILL decide who is actually sealed to whom.

sharrona
layton, UT

Allen:At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like(as) the angels in heaven (Matthew 22:30 NIV). This was Jesus answer in response to a question concerning a woman who had been married multiple times in her life whom would she be married to in heaven (Matthew 22:23-28)
There will be marriage in heaven our marriage to the Son of God. It is then that our love for Jesus will be consummated in eternal bliss, bringing us to realms of exquisite joy and never-ending fulfillment.

Christians want to be with God Mormons want to be god.

Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

Hi sharrona, nice to hear from you again!

Jesus' comments as recorded in Matthew are discussed in detail in my Mormon site, so I won't use up my 200 words repeating my comments here. For those interested, my Mormon site can easily be found via Google.

You said Christians want to be with God. As Christians, we Mormons also want to be with God. There is one difference, though, between our desire and your desire. We want to be with God as families. You seem to want to be with God as an individual.

This is the last comment that I'm allowed in this thread, so I won't be able to discuss this further. You're welcome, sharrona, to visit my Mormon site and discuss this further, if you'd like.

sharrona
layton, UT

Hey Allen, Your Mormon site . I lost it, please send it when you can.

they will be like(as the ANGELS(aggelos,32) in heaven.(Mt 22:30)
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Versse2, Praise him, all his angels (aggelos ,32); 5, Let them praise the name of the LORD(YHWH), for at his command they were Created,( Psalm 148 2,5 NIV) . In heaven Christians will be like angels who both are created spiritual beings by God. No procreation or death.

For by(Jesus/YWHW)] him all things were created(aggelos), in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authoritiesall things were created through him and for him.

And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home(Jude 1:6), Bad angels (devils)nothing to do with a pre mortal estate.

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