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Published: Thursday, July 21 2011 11:46 p.m. MDT

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CJ
Murray, UT

It's about time we take back our state and nation and more importantly we need to employ our own people and send illegals, and everyone who supports them, a message that we are not going to tolerate this nonsense any longer. We need to send Herbert, Shurtleff, Bramble, and their ilk packing in the next election and let all greedy employers in Salt Lake County know that we are watching them. Sign the petition and lets take our state back from all of them.

FootballFelon
Farmington, UT

This won't be the first time these lawmakers got it wrong. Remember Chris Cannon? Bob Bennett? They thought they were invincible, and their constituents showed them the door.

I've spent a great deal of time striking up conversations with total strangers on this very issue. I've attended numerous neighborhood meetings and brought it up. I promise you that 99% of the people I talk with are staunchly opposed to any form of amnesty.

We need our jobs back and we need wages to rise. We will vote these fools out of office for blatantly ignoring the anger we feel over this single issue.

Led Zeppelin II
Bountiful, UT

How about a petition to deport politicians on both sides for both being wrong on this issue and all other issues. A petition to get our country,our freedoms,our constitution back instead of both parties fighting only for power instead what is right and the American way. Who will sign?

philaD
Clifton Heights, PA

Football Felon,

I think you've nailed it. We do need our jobs back. Those who believe only illegals will do certain work don't know how desperate AMERICANs are to get those same jobs. Even those migrants that move here legally have difficulty getting start up jobs because illegals are undercutting them.

Illegals, I know some of you and feel that most of you are wonderful people. Nothing would make me happier than you becoming legal. Stay and make a great life for yourself and help us keep America amazing.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

As much as we try to wrap this in the constitution and americans hungry for jobs and our hatred for our own government, I've said it before. If it weren't for illegals, we couldn't afford lettuce. Or lemons, or dates. Or a lot of other field crops. Those we could afford would be grown elsewhere. No American wants that work. If they did, they'd have it.

EJM
Herriman, UT

Racist pure and simple. No matter how you try to say otherwise you are going to paint with a broad brush all brown skinned peoples as being illegal.in fact you already have with your postings. US citizens are going to be targeted, either accidentally or purposely, because of their skin color. A sad day for Utah. A sad day for America. Takes me back to 1942 and Japanese Americans being targeted. Pretty sad.

watchman
Salt Lake City, UT

I often wonder just what our state unemployment figure would be rather than 7.4% if there weren't so many jobs that are done under the radar and by illegals.

Besides the jobs being taken our tax dollars are subsidizing the welfare needs of these illegals, the high costs of crowded classrooms with large numbers of students who have to have special education, and the costs of medical and birthing.

How can anyone who respects American citizenship promote allowing the illegals to stay?

ComSen1
Sandy, UT

@Hutterite - I disagree with you. I WANT to work for $1K/hr. Since the '60s, we've paid people to sit on their butts and do NOTHING but collect a government check. It's time we put them to work!!

Let them pick vegetables, pick up trash along the roadways, paint the houses of the poor and elderly. . . Why do we pay single welfare mothers to sit at home and keep having more kids because the more kids you have, the more "government" money you get? Why do we pay men to sit on their porches drinking beer? Why is drug addiction literally a "qualified disability" for which we pay people to sit around and do drugs?

Here's an idea: you put nothing into the system, you get nothing out of it. If you've never had a job(or relatively recently), paid taxes, but you continually collect "benefits" from the system, YOU GET NO VOTE. You want to be a member or our society, contribute more than just another bill that the rest of us have to pay.

Making able people earn their keep is not hateful.

Some1outthere
Salt Lake City, UT

I am planning to start my own business and have no plans of hiring people who only speak spanish - can I get into trouble for that - like would it be considered discrimination? After all I haven't been able to find a job because I only speak english with very little spanish, french, and german thrown it.

CJ
Murray, UT

Ahh here we go with the racism baloney again. Just so you all know the definition of "racist" is "anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal". Liberals have no viable or reasonable arguments since, their defense of illegal immigration is lame and weak and they know. The best test of their commitment level is to ask how much money they donate every month to support the expense of having illegals here. I have yet to find anyone who pays anything. Liberals never want anything unless they can fund it with other peoples money.
@EJM has to cry "racism" because his arguments, like all liberals, are indefensible. Their phony compassion doesn't extend to Americans who have been devastated by the effects of having illegals here, they don't count.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

Reagan was the great Amnesty provider, all hail Reagan.

RichardB
Murray, UT

@ComSen1
Welfare is limited to just a few years. This change occurred over 10 years ago. Now the only welfare beneficiaries are the business owners who use subsidized illegal labor.

Speaking of picking vegetables, farmers are complaining they can't get enough people to pick the crops, yet we have 11-30 million people here illegally. Go figure.

A voice of Reason
Salt Lake City, UT

I am conservative with family values. (Something my fellow conservatives often profess)

I uphold the law.

I do not believe that "illegals" merit stricter punishments than our own citizens.

How many U.S. citizens smoke Marijuana?

How many citizens give their under-aged teenagers alcohol?

How many citizens break laws every day?

Are we so far above the fine people of Mexico that we deserve lighter punishments, fines, etc... but they be removed from their homes, separated from family, and so on?

They deserve worse? What argument supports this?

I dare say that a conservative who reject "Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." aren't conservatives at all. In fact, this is THE American stand. I personally do not stand against what American is, being a free country for all men, as we were all created equal.

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D&C 98:5

"And that law of the land which is constitutional, supporting that principle of freedom in maintaining rights and privileges, belongs to all mankind, and is justifiable before me."

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Some come here and work harder, are more honest, etc. I'd take them over the crooked half of Wall Street any day!

RichardB
Murray, UT

@A voice of Reason

Americans who break the law are removed from their home. They are also separated from their families. You do understand that they are in a foreign country without permission. All nations have immigration laws, returning them home is the compassionate way to enforce the law. Jail time, fines and possible loss of life is practiced in other countries for the same offense.

The saying on the State of Liberty was for legal immigrants.

D&C 58:21
Let no man break the laws of the land, for he that keepeth the laws of God hath no need to break the laws of the land.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Hutterite | 10:24 p.m. July 21, 2011

You make the same argument for the cost of lettuce as they used to make about the need for slave labor to pick cotton.

If it weren't for illegal aliens our crime rate would be lower, our hospital emergency rooms wouldn't be so full, and there would be more room in our prisons to house home grown problems.

jim l
West Jordan, UT

I battle every day against illegal immigrants in the market place. We do need our jobs back without our wages being suppressed. This is not the free market system when the illegals take what they can from the workplace and then go home and get free health care etc. etc., while the rest of us struggle to make ends meet. I also agree that shurtliff, bramble and the rest need to go. We got rid of Cannon, and Bennett.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Why don't you push Hatch and Lee to stop the Republican filibuster in the U.S. Senate of the comprehensive reform bill, a bill that was strongly supported by and sponsored by Republicans themselves. They would rather play games and not let a good bill pass during the Obama Administration than fix things. Put your efforts in getting the Senate to act. This initiative will solve nothing at all.

Also, ask yourselves, who is providing the jobs. We are the major cause of this issue, not the people who are coming to fill those jobs. The focus on the immigrant and not the situation here does in fact suggest that this is more about things other than obeying the law. So give me a break.

IdahoStranger
NEWDALE, ID

If an invading force is successful, what happens to the country being invaded?

The Invasion Continues!

Vince
the boonies, mexico

Jobs are one thing, how about the crimes being committed daily here and everywhere else by these illegals? Southern Utah grows anyone, and the illegal prescriptions by illegal store owners locally? What about the arrests of daily drug dealings? What are the costs of welfare, free medical, education ect? Sheez jobs are just one of many issues!

Upson Downs
Sandy, UT

Where do I sign up? And how many times can I sign the petition?

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