He can play church ball on my team. I guess the NBA wont be playing this year.
Native Angeleno: Your way off my friend, Jimmer was taken #10 in the draft
because of his BB skills not his popularity, popularity won't keep fans coming
to the games, winning will and Jimmer will help make that happen. That is why he
was drafted ahead of Honeycutt. Jimmer didn't even try to play D last yr with
BYU but when he tries he plays D just fine. IMO Jimmer will be in the top 5 for
ROY, that is if we have a season.
Sorry, Moroni, but Jimmer's gonna sit on the bench and play mostly in the 4th
quarter in games and situations where the team is woefully behind. He can't
play defense. It was embarrassing for his fellow Moroni to lavish attention on
him while Tyler Honeyctt, who knows how to play D and so will at least double
Jimmer's playing time, sat ignored. The Sacratomato Kings played Moroni for
suckers, knowing you will ooze out of the woodwork to buy tickets for a sport
you barely pay attention to, or you would know better about Jimmer's limited
future in the sport. The King's ownership is into Jimmer for the money. Moroni
are into the celebrity of fellow Moroni. By the ecstacy of your involvement in
this, you are yet again being played for hicks.
ALL young men are expected to go on a mission. Using his visibility as a
basketball player as a reason to not go is ridiculous. One of the reasons to
fulfill the mission is for the building of the individual. Shooting hoops
doesn't quite do that.
Jimmer's decision is his own. But Elder Anderson set the record straight in his
talk at April Conference. He told the story of the New Zealand rugby star who
postponed his career to serve a mission. He returned to be a star. POINT: Every
worthy and able young man should serve a mission. I agree that Donny Osmond was
probably the exception because he was world famous at a young age. But I
guarantee that millions of people living in countries all around the world don't
have the slightest idea who Jimmer is or who Steve was. Who remembers Devin
Durrant? There was a kid in a very similar situation. Lots of hype. But he did
serve his mission even when many said he should stay and play. His NBA career
never materialized. But he can always say that he followed the prophet. I hope
Jimmer is a huge success. But a fantastic NBA career will never substitute for a
2-year mission where one sacrifices everything for others rather than making $$$
for oneself. No comparison.
Most of the wonderful men I know that didn't go on missions wish they had and
would council other young men to follow the Lords council and serve a full time
mission. Jimmer has freeagency and has chosen not to serve a full time mission,
now that he has made that decision, I hope he does all he can to be a good
example and to spread the message of the restored gospel thru his popularity as
a NBA player. I think that is what he wants to do and I applaud that, he will
have the opportunity to influence many people and the Lord can use him as a
missionary even though he is not a full time missionary. Very few young men will
have the opportunity to be like Jimmer, so to council other young men not to
follow the prophet would be a mistake IMO. Way too much is made of sports,
I am a big sports fan and probably have spent too much time playing, coaching,
watching etc , it is good clean entertainment but it is not nearly as important
as trying to do the things the Lord would have us do.
I'm LDS 2: I feel bad that you have had so many wonderful opportunities to serve
the Lord and you still seem to have a chip on your shoulder about when you went
on a mission and that it cost you the opportunity to play baseball. Playing baseball or going to school or anyother opportunity to do something
else isn't a good excuse to ignore the Lords council and nottoserve. I respect a
young man deciding not to go on a mission, I don't agree with it but I respect
it. He has freeagency but I would hope he would use that freeagency to follow
the Lord. I feel bad that as a Bishop (or now) you would council young men in
any way that is different than what the Lord would have you council. The things
of this world are not as important as the things of God and putting the things
of this world ahead of the things of God priority wise is poor council. I
know many men who are as good as any men I know that didn't go on missions but
that doesn't mean they shouldn't have followed the Lords council to
Personally, I don't worship idols.
"I served a full time mission. Let me just say, Jimmer has brought more
exposure to the church than I could have done on a 30 year mission."Yes, but those you taught will love you and thank you and will always be
thankful to you for the rest of eternity. Those who are conversion starts with
a professional athlete that they will never meet or know personally will either
become converted by actually doing the soul searching themselves, or they will
fall away quickly (demonstrating that they were actually just groupies).
It's time for Jimmer to fulfill his responsibility to the Church and go on a
@whatsinitformeWe are not confused in the least.......it is
absolutely absurd dialogue and can be very entertaining at times buddy!
Different strokes for different folks as I see it. Cheers!
I bet non-Mormons reading these posts are going to be really confused; have a
strange idea of what Mormons are; wonder what the fuss is all about; etc.Get a grip, people!
I M LDS 2Wait ... you've been off your mission long enough to have
served as Bishop?! Dude, just let it go already. Time to get a new dream. Maybe
you a supposed to be a currant bush and not a shade tree....
man of few words"You've obviously missed the whole point of
serving a mission and that is truly sad for you."Yep.
I M LDS 2So, to understand this correctly, you did NOT hear the
general authority give this counsel. His son, who was or had been putting off
marriage, justified this decision by saying that his dad told him to.From this, you have decided that, not only is it true, but it also must
therefore extend to all general authorities. That is what I mean by you making a
lot of assumptions. Also, I'm not sure what makes it YOUR place to
advise other people's children to ignore the counsel of the Prophet. That seems
intrusive and highly inappropriate to me. You've obviously missed the whole
point of serving a mission and that is truly sad for you.
Osgrath,I served honorably in many leadership positions, including
AP, ZL and several branch presidencies.But I would have really
enjoyed that fat baseball contract I was offered!My point remains:
young men are pressured too much to blindly serve missions instead of taking
advantage of other opportunities to achieve great things. Although I chose
differently than Jimmer, I agree 110% with his choice, and as I have stated, if
I had it to do over again, I would have chosen the contract, not a mission. And
I counsel all young men accordingly. Go on a mission if you have nothing else
going on in your life, but don't sacrifice a promising future for a mission.(Maybe that's why they released me as Bishop).
man of few words,No, I did not hear GAs give that counsel. I heard
one of the sons of one of those men testify that his father gave him that
I'm not sure how this discussion yet again digressed to Jimmer's missionary
status. But I will throw in my 2 cents.First off, my perspective is
colored by my being a returned missionary. My 13 year old son is a huge Jimmer
fan. When he discovered that Jimmer hadn't served a mission, it gave us a chance
to talk about choices, obedience, free-agency, and the wonderful benefits of
missionary service and obedience to God. No one will be denied the
blessings of membership or of hearing the gospel because of Jimmer's decision. A
just God would not do that. The person who ends up missing out is the person who
chooses not to serve. Also, the person who serves and resents it should probably
just stay home. They make it harder on everyone else and end up resenting the
Church. That's my perspective. As for Jimmer, in particular, I will
say that he has his free-agency and the Holy Ghost. He is in charge of his life
and I am in charge of mine. My life is a full-time job.
I never realized there were "elite" families in the Church.
The internet gives more exposure to the LDS than they ever wanted. At least
Jimmer is good publicity for a change.
I M LDS 2,My statement to you was: "You sure are making a whole
lot of assumptions there".Assuming that you did in fact have a
AAA contract and a friend who is a child of an unnamed general authority (we are
anonymous after all -- realistically, you could be just making stuff up), I
still stand by my statement. Not every man who gets a AAA contract
goes any further than that. People get injured. People wash out all the time.
Also, there have been many athletes who have served missions and have returned
and still made it to the next level. Some were given that chance; others, like
Chad Lewis, created that chance for themselves. Your assumption here is that you
would have made it as a Professional athlete and the mission is what kept you
from that. Since there is no way of you knowing what would have happened, it is
an assumption.Your other assumptions are in regards to what general
authorities council their own children. you are basing this off of heresay. You,
in fact, did not ever hear any of these men give this council.
I M LDS 2: Thanks for pointing out that too much social pressure is placed on a
young man to serve a mission. The decision to serve should be
between the young man and the Lord and the reason why some young men do not
serve a 2 year mission should not be a subject of speculation.
@I M LDS 2,Just out of curiosity, how long ago could you have signed the
AAA contract? If it was 2 or 3 years ago, then I accept your statement - it
would be fresh enough and I would expect you would still be working through your
feelings. If it was more than 10 years ago, you are harboring
feelings that will do you absolutely no good and will eventually harm you.
Again, let it go.
I served a full time mission. Let me just say, Jimmer has brought more exposure
to the church than I could have done on a 30 year mission. Im not
active now but I can bet the First Presidency is pleased with the kind of light
Jimmer is shining on the church. Jimmer is a great dude and yes, A great role
model to the youth of the church. Members of the church who are in
the national spotlight have a lot more pressure to represent the church in a
positive light than even missionaries do. A missionary makes a mistake and maybe
a few hundred people might care. If Jimmer makes a mistake the news will go
viral. (But of course, The Jimmer doesnt make mistakes)Cant wait to
see him take the court.
@I M LDS 2Whats with all your regrets? Did you not have a good mission?
Did you not feel the amazing spirit serving? Did you not experience the joy of
seeing others come unto Christ. Did you not feel the Saviors overwhelming love
everyday even when times were tough. Osgarth is right it seems like your very
bitter. When its comes down to sports and the Gospel and you think you made the
wrong choice, I would ask you to do some serious reflection and prayer asking
God if you made the right choice. Heavenly Father gives us that commandment and
he speaks through his prophets. You may have regrets but you cannot blame anyone
for forcing you when ultimately it was your choice. Sport careers come and go
very few ever make it professionally. Yes there are rare cases like Jimmer or
Steve Young but there is only one time when your young, you get to serve the
Lord and help so many people. Anything wonderful in my life now, I attribute to
serving a honorable mission. Anyways you did the right thing by serving, I hope
you realize this.
Osgrath,I don't know what you have been reading (between the lines),
but there is no "deep-seated bitterness" at all. Just stating
facts.At the time I chose to serve a mission, there was much
pressure from parents, the Ward, and the Stake, and there was no tolerance for
"the wrong choice". I was torn between being highly recruited and
doing what was commanded by the Prophets. It was not an easy decision.But knowing what I know now, seeing how the Church's general attitude toward
missions seems to have loosened, and having seen the "value" of a
mission, if I could go back in time, I would have signed and played for Walt
Haas, whom I met personally. I still have a pair of Levi's jeans I received on a
recruiting trip.It is what it is. I think we make way too much of
serving missions, and put too much pressure on young men who could otherwise
make great contributions to the world without serving a full-time mission. I was
such a young man, and I think Fredette is, as well. I chose differently than he
I M LDS 2, whether you could have made a professional baseball career or not, or
whether certain of the brethren counselled their sons contrary to the statements
of the prophets or not, really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
However, I am concerned for your cynical response to what happens. To paraphrase
what a number of wise men have stated, it's not what happens to a man that
matters, it's how he responds that matter. Your statements here indicate some
deep-seated bitterness on your part. I hope you can let it go eventually.
How many people have joined the church since Jimmer has become popular?
Probably a few to none. Granted we all assume he will be a great role model, I
just dont get why so many get so defensive when someone has a different opinion
on this guy. He could have served a mission but he didnt who cares. That was his
choice, not ours to make. He did miss out on something very special but he can
just be a good example for the church and that always helps the public image of
the church. One good example is Dale Murphy, he was mentioned before by someone
else. He may have not served a mission but he was mission president of the best
mission on earth the Massachusetts Boston Mission! He did a great job and helped
many come unto Christ. Freddette will have opportunities to serve in other ways.
We dont know the future but I trust this kid will stay strong to his testimony.
Good examples may not lead to more conversions but it does help people know more
about the church and what we stand for. Who knows how many people he can
Amen to everything Chris Bryant said.
I for one am glad that my current Prophet President Thomas S. Monson and many
other General Authorities didn't serve missions. They were protecting and
fighting for this Country and allowing us to live a free life! Freedom is
surely not free!!! Whether they serve in the Military or serve missions it
allows them to serve and mature to be become better citizens, husbands/fathers
and friends. That is what this life is all about. Serving and becoming better.
Overcoming our own personal trials and struggles. Whether that means serving a
mission or not we are all put here to make a difference. Some make it good and
some make it not so good. We aren't the ones to decide who is what but support
and love them for their own choices!!!!
While I certainly don't judge Jimmer's choice, I have more respect and
appreciation for guys like Tyler Hawes, David Foster, Collinsworth Brothers,
etc. who put athletics aside and heed the prophet's call. I hope my sons look
up to those guys. Especially in the case of Hawes, who has a real chance to go
to the NBA. We know where the prophet stands on the issue. We also
know that a mission is not required for salvation. If Jimmer chose not to,
that's his choice. I do hope that we don't undercut what the
full-time missionaries do. Sure, Jimmer will be able to reach more people then
a full-time missionary, but that doesn't mean that what he is doing is better or
more valuable than a full-time elder or sister. Lest I be
misunderstood, I am glad that Jimmer is using his talents to further the work of
Jimmer will be more effective as a missionary where he is than knocking doors
anywhere in the world. We are all missionaries, or at least we should be. Jimmer
is a role model for all of us!
@I M LDS 2 ..... You just made me laugh!!!
I hope you didn't interrupt my comment as judging. I was saying that many youth
will use Jimmer and the rest you have pointed to and use it as justification for
not going. When the Lord said all young men should serve a misson I believe he
meant all. All those you have sighted could have served and been just as
successful as if they hadn't served and the youth would have been that much more
admiring. As far as who is more righteous - only the Lord can judge that. He
knows the circumstances, he knows the heart. As far as motes and sties go -
Maybe you could read your own comments and see just how condemning you are.
man of few words,I had the AAA contract sitting on the coffee table
in front of me and my parents. I was ranked in the top 10 HS recruits in the
country. What assumptions would you have made?As for the sons of
Apostles and Prophets, one of them was my good friend in college. He is now
President of a University, and told me personally that his father counselled him
in direct contradiction of Kimball, Hunter, Benson, and others to finish his
graduate degree before considering marriage and children.I bet
trying to judge those you know nothing about give you warm fuzzy feelings,
I know many LDS members including myself that think Jimmer is completely
It appears not to be all Mormons who are judging Jimmer, but rather certain Ute
fans. Please do not confuse the two. Who started this tired discussion anyhw? It
has nothing to do with the article. ====@ I M LDS 2You sure are making a whole lot of assumptions there. 1) You definitely would
have made it big in baseball if it weren't for serving a mission. 2) "sons
of Apostles and Prophets were counselled by their parents to put off marriage
and family until they finished their educations." I guess you must have
their homes bugged to be privy to what advice they are giving their children,
huh? I bet this statement just gives your wife and children warm fuzzies all
So tell me, what is a "mission"? FYI, there are people who serve
missions from their home, I did for a short while as a support missionary for
indexing, they also have New Family Search missionaries. There are people who
are serving missions by way of computers and teaching that way. And honestly,
it is NOBODIES BUSINESS!!! This is something that each young man must decide
with his family, bishop, stake president and maybe others. But lastly, they
need to go to the Lord and make this decision and if you don't agree, well, just
keep your thoughts to yourself. Or rather then take the cowardly way and write
it here, go find all the young men in the church who have not gone on missions
and tell them all what you think of them. Do you have the guts to attack them
face to face? Trust me, if I were talking to some of you in person about this
and you were coming down on these guys, I would tell you face to face that it is
none of your business. This is a fantastic kid and you will see the fruit of
Linus,Why is it okay for members of the church to make comments
about other people or groups that are "not befitting a member of Christ's
church", but it takes negative remarks about a ball player from BYU for you
to point that out?
I am a BYU and Jimmer fan and these people who cut Jimmer down because he didn't
serve a mission should think about what they said, expecially when they haven't
served. I haven't been or watched a Kings came but I am going to support Jimmer
while he is playing pro basketball. Jimmer show them that you aren't faking it
and good luck in the future.
It's the pious attitude of some Mormon church members that turn non-members off
of the church. Seems that failing is still alive and well---sadly.I've known many who won't have anything to do with learning about the faith
because of the judgemental attitudes of church members they've met.Talk about the reverse of doing missionary work!Yet, those people
are quick to judge The Jimmer.
What is up with the mission thing? How about:1. The
First Presidency, Monson, Eyring, Uchdorf, did not serve a mission when they
were young men.2. Howard W. Hunter did not serve one either. 3. Elders Nelson, Oaks, Hales and Packer did not serve either.There are others in addition to this list.
@ I JJudge not lest ye be judged. Do you know the path of every
young man/woman in the church? I think not. A mission is not always going to a
foreign land to walk door to door. His mission is much different. Quit bagging
I gave up a promising baseball career to serve a mission. Two years out of
action, and focusing on the work, ruined my chances.If I had known I
could have been a better missionary by going pro, I would have chosen
differently.I also followed the Prophet's counsel about getting
married and starting a family. Meanwhile, sons of Apostles and Prophets were
counselled by their parents to put off marriage and family until they finished
their educations.Seems there is a bit of "do what I say, not
what I do" going on among the elite families of the Church.
Jimmer could still go on a mission if he can vision if the NBA will be on a
lockout for two years. His girl friend will be done with college in time for his
return. But, that is okay because he is doing his church things for his new home
town and everywhere in the world. Remember, not every young kids are suited to
serve like myself who is almost totaly Deaf/Blind. My bishop asked me to serve
in the Stake Mission in the Oakland, Ca region for one year. I'm fine with that
at no fault to my bishop.
The article states "You can't underestimate how popular he is in the
church."What does that even mean?
@OU812A mission is not a saving ordinance. Yes, the counsel has
been given that every young man should serve a mission, but there is also free
agency. Wouldn't it be nice if every member did everything that was counseled
to do(hometeaching, temple attendance, tithing, etc). But we are still human and
we all fall short of perfection. You don't know Jimmer personally, and you
don't know what his thought process is, or anything about his decision to not
serve a mission. No, The Jimmer did not serve a mission, but ask yourself, have
you done EVERYTHING that has been counceled? I can answer that one for you, no
you haven't! And the reason is because we all make mistakes. I wish Jimmer
would have gone on a mission, but the fact that he didn't will not keep him out
of "Heaven" and does not mean he won't be successful in life or that
he won't be a great member of the church.
If Jimmer were called on a mission to meet with the youth of the church, would
that satisfy those who judge Jimmer? Probably not; they would say, "But he
isn't serving full time". Each person has to decide how he will
live his life. We are told we should not judge anyone. So, all I can say is,
"Jimmer, make your decisions about your life. We love you. God loves you.
Do the best you can with the opportunities you have, and leave the rest to the
Goodness gracious, so many of you complaining that Jimmer didn't complete the
Mormon rite of passage to becoming a MAN. "Every young man on a
mission" started with Kimball, those who don't feel a "calling"
to go on a mission shouldn't go. Instead you all make it NECESSARY in order to
accept the poor guys.Go Jimmer, do your thing! (And I'm not even a
Buying season tickets just because a Mormon plays on the team is still just a
gigantic waste of money, imo.
Crazy how non trolls can spin things for their own ideas:I was asked
a few years ago, Should every young man who is a member of the Church fill a
mission? And I responded with the answer the Lord has given: Yes, every worthy
young man should fill a mission. The Lord expects it of him. And if he is not
now worthy to fill a mission, then he should start at once to qualify
himself....Certainly every male member of the Church should fill a
mission, like he should pay his tithing, like he should attend his meetings,
like he should keep his life clean and free from the ugliness of the world and
plan a celestial marriage in the temple of the Lord. -KimballNobody's saying that Jimmer is bad or cannot be successful in life or anyone
who hasn't been for that matter. Just saying the counsel is there and each will
answer for their own decisions.
Bottom Line, you were saying what I was thinking, but didn't have the words. I
read some of the comments (trolls) and they are sounding so out of the know.
The sweet little digs, oh I didn't know that, so why this? I did serve a
mission as a sister, my husband did not. But he has to be one of the greatest
guys in the world, he treats me with the greatest respect and loves me
unconditionally. My step sons did not serve a mission, the two that are active
in the church, have held leadership callings. I have two step grandsons that
are getting close to that age, the one might not be able to go because of his
ADHD and ODD. Fantastic kid, with a heart as big as gold and if he can't serve
in that capacity, he will in some other way.
We love Jimmer and went to every home game last year to watch him and his superb
teammates play. He will be a great missionary for the Church wherever he goes
and whatever he does. He can go on a door-knocking mission when he is 50+ years
old. Remember, his mom is a Catholic. I'm just happy he made the choices he did
to be where he is today, taking nothing away from her. She seems like a terrific
person as is his LDS convert dad.Go Jimmer! Rock Sacramento (if the
NBA owners and players ever get it together so you can actually play).
Don't focus on the trolls. It is amazing the Dnews lets that jibberish get
posted. Look Jimmer is a fantastic individual with terrific talents and was a
great student. He is going to be a tremendous leader and props to him for what
he has accomplished not what he didn't do.
Ok, so Jimmer did not do his mission and this makes him a bad role model? Oh
come on. When you have someone like Jimmer who is in the national spotlight and
talks positively about his faith, his family, his home then that is a very good
thing. He has already reached out to more people in regards to the
LDS church than most missionaries could do in a life time. His career and his
life are his mission. No.. I see nothing bad about this so far, only good.
IJ and tanryb:Your kidding right? He is and will do more for the
church right now than he would have ever done on a two year mission. He reaching
from the west coast to east coast, oh foget it he's gone global.
Well from my neck of the woods is Dale Murphy. He had a great pro baseball
career and did not serve a mission early in life. But he was a mission president
a few years ago.
Thru his chosen Prophet the Lord has counciled that he would like all young men
when they reach the age of 19 to go on a mission but it is the individuals
choice as to whether or not they follow that council and decide to make the
sacrifice and go. It is two yrs and it is at the prime time of life for these
young men (some young women go too), it is a big sacfice for some but having
gone on a mission myself it is something I would encourage and recommend every
young man do. A young man or woman who goes on a mission (if they go for the
right reason) will have experiences that will be a benifit and blessing to them
for the rest of their lives. That being said, it is still the young man/woman's
choice and they shouldn't be critisized if they choose not to go. Maybe they
will choose to go later in life with their wife. There are many ways to spread
the message of the restored gospel and Jimmer even though he isn't going
onamission persaynow isandwillbedoing everything hecanto be amissionary now,
crowntown1 | 7:10 p.m. July 6, 2011 Corona, CA "Then why go on
a mission and give up 2 years of your life? Those 2 years you could work towards
a career or finish college. Just be active and a good example and that could be
your missionary work right?"===Right!Why
waste everyone's time (companions, zone leaders, mission president) doing
something when you are distracted, or your heart is not in it?I wish
more people had the opportunity to spread the word like Steve Young, Brother
Vai, Danny Ainge, David Archuletta and Jimmer, whether or not the did the
"purse and script" thing.There are plenty of missionary
experiences, whether or not you commit for the two year gig. It really is not
the right experience for "every" young man.(Seriously,
don't you think the world would be a better place if people worried more about
their own actions, and less about the actions of others? The word jealousy comes
to mind. "I did my time, why don't they"?)
Dear Jimmer,Fresno is only a 3 hours drive away -- even less if my
sister drives you.... Come and visit our youth anytime.
It is funny how it all gets off the subject. When someone is so popular like
Jimmer, Donny Osmond, Steve Young it would be too much of a distraction for them
to serve a regular two year mission. Everyday people are more likely to be a
success. These guys can serve when they get much older. Jimmer just being the
person he is will be much of a influence.
Just sa dang neat!
Shawn Bradley did and had a long NBA career. Nobody's passing judgement.
@tanyrb"but not and LDS role model. Didn't do the two year
thing "Oh well then I guess the prophet isn't a role model
either by your standards.
Then why go on a mission and give up 2 years of your life? Those 2 years you
could work towards a career or finish college. Just be active and a good example
and that could be your missionary work right?
IJ and Tanyrb, judge not lest ye be judged. I can not believe what you two are
saying. If I remember right serving a two year mission doesn't make you any
better than a person who didn't serve one. I served for a full time honorable
mission in 1995-97 in the Tucson Arizona mission, and that doesn't make me
better than my brother who didn't serve and happens to be in the high council,
or my father who didn't serve a mission who served in the bishopric for 5 years,
or how about Howard W. Hunter a prophet of the Lord, he didn't serve a mission
either. Please get off your high horses and stop judging others. Look inside
yourselves instead, and remove the sty from your own eye.
I am NOT a BYU fan but think Jimmer is one of the most outstanding athletes to
have played ball at any college in Utah.Sacramento's gain is the
Jazz loss. Sad day when the Jazz let him slip thru their fingers.
The window of opportunity for an NBA career is fleeting. Those who stand in
judgement should try walking in the shoes of someone who has to make that kind
of career decision before passing judgement.
I definitely 100 percent support young men preparing for and going on a mission.
That was definitely the greatest blessing for me to that point in my life was to
serve a mission. I full heartedly believe that the mission opportunity gives a
19 year-old young man the greatest boost to the rest of his life.But
...My current bishop did not serve a mission. Does that mean he
should be removed from his post? Of course not. He is an amazing man. When he
speaks of missionary work, I feel the Spirit and I know he is speaking truth.Heck, even my current Prophet (your Prophet, too) didn't serve a
mission, but we all know the Spirit is with him.Come on people.
Judgement Day is not today and thank goodness none of you are the Judge.
crowntown1 | 6:07 p.m. July 6, 2011 Corona, CA "I don't
understand the LDS faith how it's okay sometimes and not others."===Ummmm, crowntown1, it's called free will, self governance, or
what ever you want to call it.Kids stay home all the time, not just
"BYU Athletes".Do you ever get tired of whining about BYU?
To IJ & TanyrbWhat do Jimmer have in common with Danny Ainge
& Steve Young? No 2 years mission - yep. What is wrong with that? Get a life
I don't understand the LDS faith how it's okay sometimes and not others. It's ok
for LDS athletes to play on Sunday's if it's their job but not in college where
they play for the school. THe church tells you "GO ON A MISSION" you
sings songs in primary about the mission. If everyone (other LDS 19 year olds)
had the mentality of some of these BYU athletes about missions then no one would
serve.I mean really it's BYU a Mormonm school where they will pretty much hold
your scholarship and everything. THey cater to you.
Many people have not served missions. Because you have served a mission does
not make you a worse member. That doesn't define them as a person or as a
member of the church. A person still has worth and can be a great role model for
those around him. Jimmer is a great guy and has produced more
publicity for the church with his skills than I believe he would have by walking
around all day in church shoes. Tanyrb and IJ remind me of the
pharisees in the scriptures. You both need to pull the big two by four out of
your eye before you start to pick out splinters in others.
Some comments seem to reflect a judgmental attitude toward Jimmer not befitting
a member of Christ's church.
IJ really??? Since the church owns Deseret News and this was from a previous
article, "The legend of Jimmer seems to be pretty widespread at this point
including all the bits about his family and growing up and his religion.But, the prolific bleacherreport.com has called the player of the year
candidate "The greatest Mormon missionary in the world."" Some people get so stuck in the "letter of the law", that by
their judging, they sure don't understand the "spirit of the law". I
am going to be grateful for the Donny's,the David's and the Jimmer's that have
been idols for the youth and have lived the gospel. And what is worse, young
men that don't fill the typical mission but impact many in and out of the
church, or pious people who can't stop judging? Hmmm, ok, didn't take me long
to decide. Oooops, I judged the people that judge, so I am worse then those
young men who are spending more years as a light to the world, then I did when I
served a mission. I am five years older then Donny, my mission ended, he still
touches lives. Good for all of them.
Jimmer is like the Beatles!
Great guy, but not and LDS role model. Didn't do the two year thing
I have been to two NBA games in my life. But, that will soon escalate.I am already planning to see The Jimmer when he comes to play the Clippers and
Lakers this coming year. A cousin of mine in Eureka, Calif. is encouraging me to
meet him half way in Sacramento once this year just to see The Jimmer.We are hooked!
"Explaining that his faith is a big part of his life, Fredette said he
plans to ... make himself available to speak to Mormon youth groups."Not big enough to serve the Lord for two years as He has requested of
all young men. Speaking to the youth would be so much more powerful if he had
followed the Lord and His prophets. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed watching him
at BYU - but there is alot more to life than playing in the NBA, NFL, or MLB.
The example to the youth speaks volumes more than anything he will ever say.
I have a brother who lives in the Sacramento area. He's not a BYU fan. I'm not
sure he's ever watched a game Jimmer played in. He's not a Kings fan and he's
never been to a Kings game. But, he's already planning to go to a few Kings
games just to watch Jimmer.Jimmermania is alive and well in Sac