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Published: Sunday, July 3 2011 3:05 p.m. MDT

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FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

I wish the authors had defined freedom. Im grateful for the freedoms that I enjoy, namely 1) the freedom of not following my father, and all of my uncles, into the coal mines but instead become a college professor, 2) the freedom to convert to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, 3) the freedom to move to Idaho and still be a Democrat, 4) the freedom to travel to different places, 5) the freedom to own my own home, 6) the freedom to read the Constitution for myself and not rely on a talk show host to tell me what it means, 7) the freedom to agree or disagree with my governmental leaders and work to get laws enacted or repealed, 8) the freedom of speech to advocate a healthcare system similar to the one in Vermont and try to get enough people to agree with me so that it becomes the law of the state, 9) the freedom to surf the internet, and 10) the freedom to make this comment.

  • 5:39 p.m. July 3, 2011
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dumprake
Washington, UT

I haven't yet read the book, but I would argue that the defeat of the Spanish Armada in the 16th century ranks up there among those events that contributed to freedom, in this case, religious freedom. And they don't even mention the American Revolutions, which created the largest, most powerful, free nation in the history of mankind? Plus the American revolution inspired many others, including France, and most of the European kingdoms to succumb to the demand for freedom among their citizens.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

From all indications, this is a worthy book, but I too think the the 1588 defeat of the "invincible" armada ranks above some of the events they list. Since parts of the Magna Carta (1215) are in the U.S. Constitution, I think it should be in a list too, as well as other events. There are many events that almost had to happen for freedom to ultimately be won (though much sacrifice and incredible persistence). Some of the religious milestones in Europe (John Wycliffe's contributions, also Willaim Tyndale, Martin Luther, etc) were also stepping stones in recognition of free agency. I think it is great that there is enough interest in the topic for the book to be successful, and I wish these authors well in continuing their work in promoting understanding of the wonderful elusive quality of freedom.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

I knew Ted when I lived in Washington and we were both working on the Hill. He's a really sharp guy.

I read their first book and I liked it a lot. I have no doubt that they have narrowed their work down to these seven examples for a reason. I'm sure they haven't discounted the other events mentioned in the previous posts, but they probably wanted to take a slightly different angle in the unfolding story.

God works his will in a deliberate manner, but he must work through the will of mankind in order for agency to be preserved. That's why it often takes so long for his will to be accomplished. These events represent God's engagement in the lives of his children in order to bring about our salvation.

Good luck with your book, you guys. I'm sure it's great.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

I am all for freedom, who isn't. Does freedom mean absence of government as many on the far right believe. Are we really free when others are oppressed and impoverished. I believe we are on the wrong path in America. There are two types of freedom, economic and political. Right now political trumps economic in america. We can vote and freely criticize the government. Unfortunately the wealthy and large corporations have gained power at the expense of the middle class. According to Doug Wright on KSL 1 tenth of 1 percent of wage earners take home 10 percent of all wages. Economic disparity allows leads to civil unrest. I can see it happening here. A lot of people are hurting and it is not due to laziness or lack of motivation.

  • 8:59 a.m. July 4, 2011
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timpClimber
Provo, UT

I have talked with many of the Tea Party leaders on line and in person and studied their writings beginning with Cleon Skousen. None of them advocate an absence of Government, they are not anarchists. They advocate a reduction in bloated Federal and State Governments who want to regulate many of our choices and do away with personal responsibility. They want equal opportunity for all to succeed or fail. And they recognize that immoral, unethical multilateral corporations are just as much a threat to freedom as are bloated governments. Most of all they want an educated, self reliant, thinking for yourself public not a nanny state who takes from those who succeed and gives it as a right to those who haven't. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance and involvement to keep us free of regulations and debt.

georick
DALLAS, OR

I read the authors' previous book, "Seven Miracles that Saved America," and, among other reasons, was disappointed when they made a big deal out of the Emancipation Proclamation but neglected to mention that it only referred to the slaves within the Confederacy amn not to the slaves within the four states of the Union as well. While I have a pretty decent understanding of the other events of that book, enabling me to approach it with something of a critical eye, I would approach this new book with a certain feeling of vulnerability -- not knowing what key facts are being left out or distorted.
And a comment to FDRfan: I concur with your list of freedoms, but your apparent pro-union bias (given your coal-miner origins) likely prevents your understanding that FDR's pro-union measures were among several key factors that unnecessarily prolonged the Depression.

JRJ
Pocatello, ID

Thanks. Both books were great. I'm certain that there are many other places in history where things were decided in a split second or in a seemingly small way, but one of the things that makes the books enjoyable is one can read them both in a short amount of time and savor the information. I appreciated the research and foot notes that will enable me to gain further knowledge of those points that were chosen.

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