Red roundup: BYU, Utah nearing end with MWC


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  • Itchy Lehi, UT
    July 1, 2011 1:20 p.m.


    "I've always rooted for the Utes in all of their sports, except for when they face BYU."

    Now here's an example of a classy fan. I generally feel the same way towards BYU and will probably do so even more now that BYU/Utah aren't playing for the same conference titles anymore. However, I have to admit that still doesn't stop me from giving my Cougar family/friends a hard time when they lose.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2011 12:09 p.m.

    See you "HAIR". It's been real.

    Both BYU and Utah are now much better off. Good luck to both.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    July 1, 2011 8:46 a.m.

    @ I Still Can't Say It,

    Yeah, you shouldn't have said it.

    To assume BYU fans don't support the Utes is quite narrow-minded.

    I've always rooted for the Utes in all of their sports, except for when they face BYU.

    I know many BYU fans who feel the same way.

    It's part of being a resident of the great state of Utah!

    Same with rooting for USU, Weber St, UVU, et al.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    July 1, 2011 8:32 a.m.

    Happy New Year - goodbye old mwc and hello Independence. Goodbye craig thompson and the mnt oh mtn. No more exclusive rights and more exposer!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    July 1, 2011 7:35 a.m.

    "I was really impressed with utah's performance at UNLV in 2007"

    let's review;

    Prior to the UNlV loss- Utah spanked 11th ranked UCLA...the same UCLA team the took BYU to the woodshed the previous week.

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    July 1, 2011 5:12 a.m.

    @rock of marn

    I was really impressed with utah's performance at UNLV in 2007. That game was just as impressive as last years performance in the Vegas bowl.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    July 1, 2011 1:04 a.m.

    MWC is the springboard for the Utes and the Horn Frogs jumping into the BCS AQ swimming pool. Next Boise State might make the jump eventually. We at the Y have taken a leap of faith as an Independent. Hope all is well with everyone.

  • man of few words Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    I Still Can't Say It

    I've lived in several places around the nation. Most fans don't care about any fanbase they don't play on a regular basis. But nice try, son.

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    June 30, 2011 10:54 p.m.

    I will miss the MWC schools to some extent. There is a lot of history there and a lot of good memories. Hope they all continue to do well, including the by.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    June 30, 2011 10:31 p.m.

    Sammy, isn't that ironic. You question someone elses savvy yet you say Utah was mediocre in football while in the MWC. Lets see, two undefeated seasons in the MWC. Two BCS bowls. Two beat downs of BCS bowl opponents. Two thrashings of BYU during the BCS bowl years. Pray tell what were BYU's great accomplishments in football during the MWC years? Utah accomplished more in football than any other MWC team (Utah 2 BCS wins vs. TCU 1 BCS win). It is too easy with some of these Y fans.

  • Cosmo's Cousin Holladay, UT
    June 30, 2011 10:25 p.m.

    Independence trumps the PAC any day of the week!

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    June 30, 2011 10:18 p.m.

    BYU = Hello Independence

    utah = PAC 11.25 (not fully invested for 4 more years...)

    utes countdown clock:

    2011: PAC 11.25

    2012: PAC 11.5

    2013: PAC 11.75

    2014: PAC 12

    2015: USC announces independence for the 2016, giving utes fans hope for a possible win of the southern PAC title...

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 30, 2011 9:46 p.m.

    "I still can't say it"

    Your U education really showing through, especially your business savvy, on TV contracts but I suppose you're one of those types that thinks a mediocre MWC football history equates to instant success in the Pac 10.2.

    Do you have batteries for your AM radio?

  • Nikon Guy Henderson, NV
    June 30, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    Your comment is probably the classiest comment I've read on Des News regarding the MWC. I just wish the other Ute and Cougar fans weren't so bitter and resentful of the MWC. Really just move on with it...both schools have a bright future ahead so stop looking back.

  • Cougar_Independence OMAHA, NE
    June 30, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    I wish BYU could play on Versus like Utah...

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 30, 2011 5:21 p.m.


    You started well, but drifted, friend. ESPN is not self hype, and after decrying the soft BYU schedule, talking about the first loss is kinda mixed signals.

    The "good riddance" article pretty much sounded more like "thank goodness."

  • I Still Can't Say It Holladay, UT
    June 30, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    Most sports fans don't particularly care for BYU around the nation, and the article from the guy in Vegas proves it. I have a theory about the ESPN deal -- TV executives know people will watch just to see BYU lose and that's how the Cougars got the contract.

    Unlike BYU, MWC fans are proud of the Utes and wish them well on the PAC.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    June 30, 2011 4:49 p.m.

    For any NEW scheduling, BYU would be smart to never schedule a game at the other team's place in one-for-ones when setting up games against former MWC teams. Doing so would only solidify BYU as a non-AQ.

    BYU now needs to act like an AQ team by scheduling MWC, WAC, and other non-AQ conference teams in either 2-for-1 (2 at BYU) or ONLY-at-BYU games.

    I bet they'll not have any problems pulling that off with as many BCS teams that want to play the Cougars, which will fill out most of BYU's schedule each year after 2012, thus only allowing for 3-4 non-AQ games per year.

  • Troll Hunter Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 30, 2011 4:01 p.m.


    easy easy there buddy, the article is posted on both BYU and Utah links.

    It does say BYU in the article Heading,


  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    June 30, 2011 3:34 p.m.

    That first link was to a poorly organized and poorly written article. The majority of comments on these boards are better articulated than that article.

    That being said, I wish the MWC the best. Since Fresno State is joining them, I will still sort of be following them. But I am so excited for Utah to be going to the Pac. I'm happy for you guys and am looking forward to Kyle rising to that challenge and your new coach (hopefully) rebuilding your basketball program back to where it once was. I am also excited to be able to watch my Cougars every week and to see them play teams we don't usually get to meet. I'm also excited to see Dave Rose get the national attention he deserves.

    This is a great move for both schools and I wish both teams the best of luck. Go Cougars! Go Utes!

  • Teddy Bear Las Vegas, NV
    June 30, 2011 2:46 p.m.


    The schedule is just as good if not better than the schedules Utah, Boise St, TCU and Hawaii had when each of them made a BCS bowl by going undefeated.


    The actual article that is linked is equally about BYU and Utah - no trolling necessary.

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    June 30, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    This Ute wishes the rest of the MWC the very best moving forward. It was a great conference to be a part of, many road trips & fond memories. It may be a long shot, but I hope they achieve BCS AQ status. They deserve it.

  • CRB Woods Cross, UT
    June 30, 2011 1:54 p.m.

    Both BYU and Utah took the deals they had and should not look back. Both deals are better than the disasterous MWC/mountain debacle. Also both are much better financially and from an exposure standpoint. However, that said do not be too quick to compare them beyond that. BYU was left at the alter by every conference in the west and midwest and desperate to do something that could give the impression that they too were moving forward as had Utah. So they took the best of the bad decisions remaining. Just watch the press and buzz over the next year. Utah is like the national bestseller with all the hype and press and they show up like George Bush and have lines around the block for booksignings. BYU in comparison will live on self-hype and continue to have to force themselves to be in front of the public. This year will be the toughest with a schedule that does not sport a top 20 team and has half their schedule against teams ranked below 100. The schedule is a disaster and once they lose they are done. This schedule WILL NOT allow them a BCS berth if undefeated.

    June 30, 2011 12:49 p.m.

    Its just a bitter UNLV blogger who doesn't have anything else to do, and is it Ute hater or Ute fan that is a hater for life?

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 30, 2011 12:49 p.m.

    Why so pessimistic? I think your team has a good chance to be successful in PAC right away. I guess I'm give them more of a chance than you are. Or did you mean to say "Blank Saturday's" because that is what you'll find when you try to find your teams game on your TV each Saturday? No need to worry. There will be plenty of good football on the ESPN channels for you to watch nearly every week.

  • MenaceToSociety Draper, UT
    June 30, 2011 12:37 p.m.

    You are correct, Utehaterforlife. That article does not say that... except in the first sentence:

    LAS VEGAS - It's time to say goodbye to Utah and good riddance to BYU.

    Must be the alternate reality of UteHaterNation that caused you not to notice that.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    June 30, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    It wouldn't matter to me one bit if BYU never played utah again.

    Goodbye MWC.

    I wish it was goodbye to utah as well.

    Now if we could just get the trolls off our articles.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    June 30, 2011 12:34 p.m.

    Utehaterforlife: The first line of the article says, "It's time to say goodbye to Utah and good riddance to BYU" And I agree just a UNLV homer bashing sour grapes.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 30, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    tomorrow will be known as "black Friday" going forward.

  • Utehaterforlife Syracuse, UT
    June 30, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    I just read that article about Utah leaving and good riddance to BYU, and not once in the article does it say that, just some bitter guy from UNLV bashing on Utah and BYU.