Pauu is where he's always wanted to be, COUGAR TOWN and bleeding blue.
@clowntown,Thank you for informing (and continuing to inform) cougar
fans how pathetic their program is in regards to USC. We all bow down to your
superior intellect and debate skills. But what impresses me most is your
ability to backpedal with the best of them! Keep it up, brother.
@ Duhkunter. "Of course being unemployed like yourself, and living
off the rest of us now doubt. I'm retired from the railroad and the
State Retirement System after spending 18 years in one field and another 22 as a
school teacher . During that time I also learned how to spell and am currently
taking classes for my paralegal certificate and license.I also teach 4
hours a week for the state and their DUI classes.BYU should have
quite a few LB's by now as Bronco usually recruits by position.Already 16
of the 25 scholarship offers are out.. before the senior season starts.Best wishes to the Cougars and their independence !
@failstormBeing his own boss gives a guy alot of latitude as to how
he spends his time. I spend my time doing whatever I want to do. Of course being
unemployed like yourself, and living off the rest of us now doubt, gives you
alot of time to obsess over me, when I post, what I post, keeping an entire
Duckhunter notebook of quotes and such. It is a little bit creepy but sort of
flattering.And you don't need to worry about my sons, I attended
and/or coached in 7 baseball games of theirs last week as well as spending 4
days at AFHS at the football camp. Managed to do some yardwork as well.Well off to coach one of my sons teams defend a state title today, then we'll
light off some fireworks. It's a wonderful life!
@clowntown"Guess what you still haven't done anythng on a
national stage in a long time"Guess what clowntown, none of us
ever has, especially not you. We, like you, are simply fans of a school. Unlike
you most of us actually have a connection to the school we support but once
again congratulations on your choice to be a fan of one of the 2-3 winningest
college football programs of all time. You really went out on a limb when you
made that decision. No doubt that is the reason you know so much more about
college football than the rest of us do because leaching onto a successful
program shows incredible forsight and knowledge.LOL!
@ Duckhunter " How do you define 'obsession'? Being on the
comments section from 9:04 through 5:16--over 8 hours when you are supposed to
be on campus at the University of Utah working ? What about family life..
like supper and taking your boys to their summer outings ? In answer to
your challenge, that's one way to describe " obsession ".
Guess what you still haven't done anythng on a national stage in a long time.
You have no argument. Great you went 3 seasons with 2 or 3 losses, you still
ended up in the Vegas bowl. You guys hype up BYU way way to much that's all I'm
saying. Not trying to compare SC to BYU because that would be ridicoulis but
c'mon it's BYU. You guys get mad if you don't play in a BCS bowl or that you get
ran by FLorida State at home? Really? Maybe as fans lower your expectations a
little bit and see what plays out.
Question: "Besides USC, how long has it been since the last PAC 10 team won
a concensus National Championship in football (#1 in BOTH the AP and Coaches
final polls)?"Response: "What is your deal? Univ. of
Washington 1991 there's mine. Where's yours? Oh before you were born? Your right
I am a PAC 10 football guy and I don't understand how you feel BYU football is
so great? BYU football is not a team people talk about."Results: FAIL -- AP/Coaches1990--Colorado #1/#2; Georgia Tech #2/#11991--Washington #2/#1; Miami #1/#2USC is the ONLY PAC 12 team
that has finished #1 in both polls.---------------------Why do I think BYU is so great: BYU has been a perennial Top 25 team since
1977 (17 of 34 years), has won a national championship, a Heisman Trophy, has
had 15 national individual award winners, and 6 players inducted into the
college football hall of fame. Not up to USC's standards, but still a solid,
nationally known and respected program.btw, you're mistaken, not
only do I remember BYU's 1984 national championship, I was at the game that
sealed the championship for BYU.
crowntown1You need to develop a little thicker skin.I
graduated from the U. I've sat in the middle of the MUSS(1990) and in the middle
of the Crimson Club(2006), wearing BYU gear, during BYU-Utah football games, and
still don't have a problem cheering for the Utes, EXCEPT, when they're playing
@crowntown1 " I don't understand how you feel BYU football is so
great?"This a quote from Butch Pau'u: "I'm LDS, and I have
mission plans, so I couldn't imagine a better school than BYU for both my
football and all of my other goals."This from L-D: "I
couldn't believe how good everyone made me feel [at BYU]. It's just a real
positive environment, and it's a clean environment. My religious beliefs [as a
Catholic] are obviously different, but the standards are the same."That's why I think BYU football is so great. It's because it's not all
about the football, like at most every other school. It's about taking boys and
helping to turn them into good men who hold themselves to a higher standard.Not only that, but they put out a great football team year in and year
out. It's refreshing, in this day and age, to cheer for a school that can keep
its standards and still put out a winning product. No offense,
crowntown, but USC can't really say the same these days...But I
enjoy your comments and would like to continue seeing you on these boards :)Go Cougars!
Re: Deep Blue What is your deal? Univ. of Washington 1991 there's
mine. Where's yours? Oh before you were born? Your right I am a PAC 10 football
guy and I don't understand how you feel BYU football is so great? BYU football
is not a team people talk about.
Pau'u had received offers from Nebraska, Iowa State, Washington, Oregon State
and from Colorado at the time of his commitment to BYU.According to
uTe fans he must not be very good because Utah did not offer him a scholarship.
I guess their fellow PAC-12 members must not have good judgement either because
they offered him a scholarship. And then a Nebraska team offering an inferior
player a scholarship. Wow, what is this world coming to?
crowntown1"Most people not LDS outside of UTah would agree BYU
will never win A NC..."If you're such a PAC 10 football expert,
prove it by answering this question without looking it up:Besides
USC, how long has it been since the last PAC 10 team won a concensus National
Championship in football (#1 in both the AP and Coaches final polls)?Just to make it a little easier, the correct decade will do.
Re: Duckhunter Not really! I like to post my opinion just like
the rest of you guys. It's when you don't agree you attack personally. I get it!
Has nothing to do with football more so of a bunch of over zealous fans talking
like they are a BCS contender every year. I'm one step ahead of you because you
will probably deny it. See when you live in a bubble you lose touch with reality
or things outside. Most people not LDS outside of UTah would agree BYU will
never win A NC or go to a BCS bowl. HAve a nice day!
It sounds like some big meanie Mormons hurt little clowtowns feelings when he
was in Provo so now he is taking his frustrations out from 2 states away on a
keyboard. LOL! How do you define 'obsession'?LOL!
Nice job cougs! They look to be great commits.. I'm excited for independence!
crowntown1"So yes I love Trojan Football and follow them but
like to mix it up with BYU fans who think they are superior to others."Your inferior superiority-complex is showing.
@crowntown1: No one here thinks any different about their team than you think
about yours. If you can't believe in something than why follow? Football does
not define you, it is just a game and people love their teams no matter who they
are. By the way, how is that championship lost by Reggie Bush anyhow?
Re:Cougar Independence I went to BYU, was never really a fan of
their football team and was chastised by my roomates having to think I had to
follow BYU football. So yes I love Trojan Football and follow them but like to
mix it up with BYU fans who think they are superior to others. I understand the
BYU mentality of being the best as well as the church's philosophy but that
doesn't translate to college football today and many of the fans comment on here
like they are some National Powerhouse. Walk before you run.
Hedgie is still bitter about 1984, when BYU beat Michigan in the Holiday bowl. A
grudge he has carried for the last 26 1/2 years. So he sides with teams that
play BYU, hence a the nation's #1 BYU hater.
@crowntown" I am a USC fan and my dad went there so I have been
brought up to cheer for the Troans. I have been a fan for 15 years now."That begs the question, why are you reading a Deseret News article
covering BYU? And then why are you posting comments on a Deseret News article
covering BYU? Trojan Troll?Go Cougars! Happy
The saliva is running. I see a bright future for BYU. I would love to see them
land some of those big boys in Texas, that would help out.
@ Duckhunter | 5:16 p.m. June 30, 2011 Highland, UT Please add
me to that list of people. You have just proven Carnak's point. Go back and
read Carnak | 3:58 p.m. June 30, 2011. Carnak, you nailed it.
@utes21" You try to bring up the Ute trolls but lets not kid
ourselves your the biggest troll there is! Also whats up with you bringing
religion up anywhere you can"I know you are just a youngster
and lack both wisdom and perspective but let me point a couple of things out
here.1st of all I didn't bring up religion. I answered a ute troll
who brought it up. 2nd of all I know I get to you. You put on a show
of amusement but the truth is what I write really gets to you. That is part of
your youth and lack of wisdom.You see anyone like you that distorts
the truth, as you did in the quote of yours I put above, obviously lacks wisdom
as all of us have read the thread and all of us know who brought religion into
it. But beyond that posters like failstorm, carnak and yourself, that are so
obsessed with one single poster, me, that you have to kneejerk disagree with
everything I post shows you lack anysort of capacity to actually deal with
issues.Sad really. I pity you.
Butch Pau'u looks fantastic! We've been recruiting and producing some talented
LBs since Bronco arrived. Jherremya Leuta-Douyere also looks like a solid
player (and has a cool name), and again proves we can attract talented players
who are not LDS. There are a lot of good kids (LDS or not), with
solid values, who have no trouble living the Honor Code. Whether they attend
BYU or any other university, they would live honorably - proving that attending
college and being derelict are not necessarily synonymous.I'm very
excited about the future of BYU football. I was one of the skeptical ones in
the beginning about going Independent. But this is really working out well from
a scheduling, recruiting and exposure standpoint. I realize we need to produce
9, 10, 11 and 12 win seasons regularly to keep it going. But every indication
is the talent coming in will be the catalyst for winning teams for years to
come. Go Cougs!
As much as it pains me to say so, the Pau'u commit was great for BYU. Not only
will he likely be a beast at LB, but he has the perfect LB name. Butch Pau'u.
Congrats, BYU, Butch, and Jherremya!I like Quackmeister
almost as much as I like the Hog, Hondo, and the Quackmeister Hunter.
@CarnakLOL! Thanks for the laughs fella's, anyways good pick up for the y.
Hope these kids make there team better, its good to see that any utah school can
attract talented athletes. Not gonna lie I was jealous of Jimmers at the y but
its was cool to see the exposure the state got and the school when he was
CarnakYes, Yes he is :)
@ Utes21 | 3:42 p.m. June 30, 2011 Salt Lake City, Ut Because
Ducky has seen everything, done everything and knows everyone. He is an expert
in any and all areas of discussion. Facilities, recruiting, education and
athletic funding,religion, politics, the economy, etc etc etc.
@HedgeHoogThanks for enlightening us about the Amish (eye roll)We will see many more of these atheletes coming to BYU from all around
the country for the great atmosphere and football. Parents are very aware of
what can happen to the "focus" and self-control on many college
campuses around the nation and BYU can offer alittle peace of mind for these
parents, and even peace of mind for the student atheletes.
@hymn to the silentI honestly think that those two are the same guy who
just gets his kicks creating controversy. He is like the professional contention
makers we have on the Trib. Were on to you hedge hunter duck hog!
Welcome to Provo, Boys. You look good in blue.
@carnakYea no one takes pitching or qb lessons to play intramurals.
@DuckI just like to read your comments and laugh. Your the kind of person
who just looks for conflict. You try to bring up the Ute trolls but lets not
kid ourselves your the biggest troll there is! Also whats up with you bringing
religion up anywhere you can. Stop trying to play the victim card here, you know
for a fact the majority of the U is LDS. How can you honestly say its anti when
you havent taken one class there, oh wait you heard things! Okay I guess we need
to take some middle aged man from Highlands word for it. Stop making this a
religious crusade to make byu look holier than thou. Stop making other fans and
members look bad.
Hedge was just identified as a BYU hater rather than a Utah fan. You guys can
have him and his obsession.
@ hymn to the silent They both would shortly die of boredom. Not
much to see there.
Again, nice job on the recruiting trail. Good Luck in Cougar blue.
Duckhunter | 2:43 p.m. June 30, 2011 Highland, UTand they
didn't have to take pitching or quarterback lessons to do it. Free educations
are a beautiful thing.
I think we put hedgelog and duckhunter on survivor together...that would be good
Duckhunter,I agree. And where I attended high school it started
there. Catholics and Mormons took a lot of bashing at my high school. There
are some real anti religious zealots who really believe what they say, most of
what I encounter and what my kids have encountered are people like Jon Stewart
who are liberal and like to get a reaction and they actually love it when they
push back. One of my daughter's liberal Poli Sci professors actually asked her
to be his teaching assistant in the fall. He was disappointed when she told him
she was going on an LDS mission. He told her to look him up when she got back
and he would have a teaching assistant job for her. As you say, it is all in
the attitude. We can take offense or work through it. I firmly believe that
the Catholic recruit will do very well at BYU. I know from experience that not
all the coeds there are looking for returned missionaries. And I never thought
the church would build a temple in Rome but at the ground breaking Pres Monson
was shaking hands with the official from the Vatican.
the Amish got it right with Rumspringa. Demanding the freedom to find yourself.
Rumspringa --generally refers to a period of adolescence for
members of the Amish, a subsect of the Anabaptist Christian movement, that
begins around the age of sixteen and ends when a youth chooses baptism within
the Amish church or instead leaves the community.
Hedgie, you realize you're antagonizing 100% of the BYU fanbase along with 50%
of your own, right?
Leave it to carnak to simply post ignorantly and in kneejerk fashion. Go back
and actually read things next time. Also your sons playing intramural flag
football is not the same thing as having "sons play for both BYU and
@DuctchmanWell put. But to clarify, since Hailstorm obviously
couldn't grasp it, I in no way think the University of Utah is predominantly or
overwhelmingly anti LDS or Anti Religion. What Hailsotrm failed to understand is
I was answering ugottalovemaxie who wondered how this Catholic recruit would
handle some anti Catholic opinions or behavior if he were to encounter it at
BYU. Well I would guess in exactly the same manner as an LDS kid reacts when
he/she encoutners anti LDS stuff at Utah or anywhere else. They just take it in
stride or else they debate it in the same manner your daughter debates it.I just find it interesting how much someone like "maxie"
concerns themself over what a non Mormon at BYU might encounter while ignoring
that they might encounter the same thing almost anywhere and that LDS kids
encounter almost everywhere they go. I htink this stems from his anti BYU bias
and desirte to find a negative in this kids committment.I'm of the
opinion most of us aren't so sensitive that we care all that much. We just move
on past it since it is generally a minority of our overall experience.
HH:I find it even more "interesting" that there are people
who believe that missions are as you put it: "ordered."
Leave it to the Duckhunter to start something where nothing exists. I have had
sons play for both BYU and Utah and both enjoyed the experience and the
education that they received. People are going to make college chosies based on
a number of factors including (believe it or not) the quality of the education
in their field of expertise.
Re: hedegehogThere you go again. Your education (or lack thereof) is
showing if you believe missions are "ordered".
TheHailstormAs a Utah alum, I can tell you from first-hand
experience that there are many professors at the U who are overtly
anti-religion/anti-LDS and who don't hesitate to subtly or not-so-subtly attack
LDS beliefs whenever they feel like it.
'so she pushes back and the Poli Sci professors love that."Dutchman,And shouldn't that be part of self discovery? Challenging
what has been programed from birth? I've always found it very
"interesting" how missions are ordered just at the time a youth begins
to question his/her beliefs.
Duckhunter and Hailstorm,I will step in here and say that you are
both correct in some of your comments regarding religion at the U and BYU. My
daughter currently attends the U working on a degree in Poli Sci which may
account for encounters with some of the irreligious elements at the U. She is
head strong herself and is leaving on a mission so she pushes back and the Poli
Sci professors love that. Some of what they say is to get a reaction. So,
Duckhunter is right that there are some with a religion attitude. Like
Hailstorm, when I went to the U I ran into nothing of that. My music history
teacher was Jay Welch who at that time was the Asst Director of the Tab Choir.
My econ professor lived next door to Pres Kimball in the Avenues. He was a none
member and a liberal economics guy but he adored his neighbor Pres Kimball and
said so in class. Kyle Whittingham has set up adult religious chaplains for his
football players. One of the chaplains is a Mormon Institute of Religion
Director. Kids are expected to attend church if they have one.
There are teachers / professors in many of the Utah universities and colleges
who go on rants about the Mormon "cult" or some other derogatory
terms. Some are subtle and some are outright bitter and obvious about it.
Between my wife and I we have personal experience at 3 of them. Even my children
don't escape it in High School and even Junior High. It also happens in many
churches in and outside Utah.
maxie;You went to BYU and your worried about them blasting this young mans
religion or trying to shove their religion down his throat?? It is true that
religion classes are required but Bronco makes sure that non-LDS students have
support from their own religions leaders whatever their religion. I have many
no-LDS friends and many of them believe their religion is "the true
religion". It's not really an issue unless you try to make it one or want
to be offended. I still get along with them fine. I Haven't heard negative
comments from many non-LDS athletes who were the "clean cut, religious
kids" to whom your referring? A few Crowton recruits who did not want to
live by the honor code. I think Bronco does a pretty good job of not signing
@failstormYou know if not for your fixation on me and your kneejerk
reactions to everything I post we maybe aren't so far apart. But it is up to you
to actually pay attention on occasion and realize not everything I write is anti
utah. Generally my shots at utah are limited to responses I am making to wedgie,
blowhard s, christina b, etc. and are not simply out of the blue. But of course
you only read my repsonse and get all bent out of shape about them while
ignoring the ute "fans" am am bantering with.I've told you
before I don't have anything against utah, its employees, its athletes, or even
the majority of its fans. But there is a large and vociferous segment of its
fanbase that are lowlifes and I have a great time getting after them and
watching them meltdown over it. Of course then there are the utah fans like you
that simply only see me bantering with them, and ignore their comments the
otherway and then choose to ony be upset with me because I am on the
otherside.My point is try to become a little more observant about
These guys must have some skills, as they were being recruited by several big
name programs. Congrats to BYU on some quality pick-ups. Love seeing programs in
our state gaining more prominence on the national stage.-Ute fan
@ Duhkunter Why aren't you out mowing lawns at someones aunt who lives
next door to a cousin of a Cougar assistant coach ? I'm retired but your
main profession seems to be bad mouthing everything a Utah graduate and fan
writes. I complimented the recruiting efforts of the major universities
within the state and how all programs are recruiting better athletes. Why
turn this into something ugly ? BTW.. nice pick up Cougars !
@failstormYou'll also notice (with my help pointing it out of
course) that I didn't deny that the catholic recruit may hear some anti catholic
or "great and abominable" church comments while at BYU. It would
actually surprise me if he doesn't. I personally know LDS people that adhere to
that philosophy and while most have the good manners not to say it to a Catholic
there are undoubtedly some that would say it. But just like the LDS
student at utah it will be a minority that is that rude and the overall
experience will be good. Most of us aren't such huge pansies that we are going
to let an ignorent, or even purposefully rude, comment ruin all of the good
things we find. I'm sure this kid will be just fine even if he does run into an
idiot or two along the way.
Who cares what people think about your religion, I don't some people have thin
skin, regardless of where these kids get picked up, it is going to be some great
football games with these prime athletes.
@failstormI've heard them without ever having to go there. I also
have plenty of friends and aquaintances that have gone there and informed me.
Don't pretend it doesn't happen because it does. I should have included that
they will get anti lds rhetoric from a percentage of the student body and
"fan"base at utah as well. For evidence just look a couple of posts up
the page from this one and read wedgies.I notice you don't have
similar outrage over maxies unfounded assertion. Typical.
@clowntownYou can post anything you want to post. You can make any
comment you want to make. They are generally inane and foolish but I don't mind
you making them. I actually enjoy the laughs I get from them multiple times per
day. Keep it up, I encourage you to post more often.
I really have to agree with Duck on this one. Kids are going to go where they
fit in best. The U. and Y. have great programs going and kids will enjoy either
program.hedgehog, taking shots at the LDS church is taking a shot at
at least half of your fanbase, probably an unwise move. If you want to do that,
use your "BossHog" alias at the trib or post on the other articles
here at the Des News.Finally, I have to say that there is a little
bit of fluff in this article. What does "almost" offered a
scholarship mean? Did Gurney really track down the coaches at these schools to
ask them that? Schools either offer a scholarship or they don't. Those who are
still under consideration are exactly that. What coach says "we almost
offered him a scholarship?" Come on gurney!
@ Duhkunter. "Well there are alot of LDS kids that sit through
u of u professors telling them how their religion is a cult or a joke
worshipping some imaginary figure as well as other less than respectful things..
"What ? I graduated from the U and never heard a single
disparaging against the LDS faith not EVER! Not before my mission nor after. Where did you hear that ?
Re: Duckboy You can't share an opinion on here or what? I have to be in
agreeance with everyone else? The problem the D news posts articles to help you
feel guys important. I am a USC fan and my dad went there so I have been brought
up to cheer for the Troans. I have been a fan for 15 years now. I attended
college in Utah but am not really a fan of any sports teams there. I can share
my opinion of a player who "Verbally" commits to BYU.
If Butch Pau'u is anything like his father, then LOOK OUT! Wepi Pau'u was known
for being a vicious, unstoppable, aggressive linebacker back in the day. Legend
in the Polynesian Community! Do not let the size fool you. Great get for BYU!
"Well there are alot of LDS kids that sit through u of u professors telling
them how their religion is a cult or a joke worshipping some imaginary
One interesting thing about this is that it seems BYU is getting more and more
out of state commits whereas utah is getting an increasing number of instate
ones. I'm not saying that is a negative for either school but the often stated
line of thought, especially from utah fans like wedgie, was that utah would be
getting away from instate kids whereas BYU would struggle to get out of state
kids to come here. Well obviously both of those lines of thought are
incorrect.There is enough instate talent that both schools would be
foolish to dismiss it. There are obviously enough out of state, and even non
LDS, kids that share the BYU value system that they can successfully get quality
players to come here. Especially with the tv exposure they are going to get
which allows the families of these kids from other parts of the country to see a
large percentage of the games.I think the lesson here is to simply
ignore the uneducated blatherings of such utah "fans" as blowhard s
and wedgie when it comes to recruiting, program quality, fanbases, etc. as they
are continually proven wrong on all of it.
Congratulations to both. It's always nice to see when kid's dreams of playing
D1 turn into realty.
@ugottalovemaxieWell there are alot of LDS kids that sit through u
of u professors telling them how their religion is a cult or a joke worshipping
some imaginary figure as well as other less than respectful things. It's an
underlying cultural and anti religious/mormon thing because it is what many anti
religious/LDS believe. Yet somehow all thos LDS students at the u manage to get
through it unscarred.
UgottaloveMaxie,I am also a Utah fan and I also attended BYU for my
masters degree. I don't know of anyone in the LDS church that speaks of the
Catholic church in those terms anymore. You may be right that there a few small
minded members that sill do but they are a disappearing breed, thank goodness.
President Monson himself has cultivated many many friends in the Catholic Church
and even sat next to the Arch Bishop of Washington, DC in the Cathedral of the
Madeline when the Arch Bishop came to Salt Lake to install the new Catholic
Bishop. I hope I got the spelling correct and the title right in the last
sentence. If I didn't please overlook. Anyway, the relationship between the
Mormons and the Catholic at least in terms of the leadership has never been
better even though there remain issues like access to geneological records that
remain. But I believe BYU and its membership in the WCC and recruiting non LDS
members will only get stronger.
Interesting to see kids of other faiths that are recognizing the unique
environment at BYU. I went to BYU for undergrad and another university for
post-grad. BYU was definitely different with less partying, less profanity, and
less immorality. I was comfortable at both but it was nice to not have to deal
with those issues as much while at BYU.
Ugotta...As an active LDS member, I do not feel that the Catholic church
is an abomination. With many family members who are active catholic, I think
they are great people and hope that they feel the same about me.
BYU is a good atmosphere for a clean cut, religious kid. However, is
Leuta-Douyere going to like hearing that LDS is the "only true church"
and that the Catholic is the abomination? I think that it will be hard to be in
that culture and hear that from the over zealous on campus. It's a fact, I went
to BYU and was very involved. It's an underlying culture and religious thing,
because that's what LDS believe.
congrats to the cougs. Good to see that there aren't too many of my fellow ute
fans posting nonsense here. I was all ready to drag them out of here and back
to our boards. Again, these are a couple of great pickups.
BYU-Utah games in the next few years should be epic. Cheers!
Great pickup. I'm a big Ute fan but I have to credit some fine recruiting here.
They play such tough football at Servite and in Orange County in general.
I'm from Southern California, and this is a nice pick up by BYU. I've heard of
schools going after Butch for over a year now. He's one of the top linebackers
in the state of California, so he's for real. I don't know anything about the
other guy, but Servite is a top program that is consistently in the running. A
lot of D-1 players come out of Servite. These guys will have played against some
of the best competition in California making them very well prepared for playing
at BYU. I also like reading about kids who are excited to play at BYU. These
guys recognized BYU as a good fit for them and then committed a few days later.
I love that. Go Cougars!
Biegal verbally committed to Wisconsin but in the last week two articles have
been written about his commitment. One from a Wisconsin source and one from
Total Blue Sports that stated although Biegal verbally committed to Wisconsin
his verbal has been wavering some with BYU back in the picture. Could be
another Ross Apo situation where he committed to Texas and then later changed
his mind in favor of the Y. Either way both of these two recruits from
California are exciting.
"@ Duckhunter,Did you read what I had just written ?Why the
slam ?"Hailstorm, just fyi your post and his post were
submitted at the exact same time, so he did not read your post because it had
not yet been posted.Everybody else, just ignore crowntown's posts.
You see, Pau'u used to be one of the top LBs in Southern Cal, that was until he
committed to BYU. Now he's not. ;)
TheHailstormI don't always agree with you, but in this case you're
correct. All of Utah's major schools have dramatically improved their recruiting
in recent years.But recruiting is only half the battle. Good
coaching and team chemistry are just as important, and all four programs have
excellent coaching staffs as well.Utah would have found a lot more
support from BYU fans for success in the PAC 12 if Utah fans hadn't copped such
a smug, condescending attitude about the whole thing.The attitude,
plus pretending that it was Utah's superior athletic programs that were
primarily responsible for Utah being invited.
Two great recruits for BYU. I think that one of the reasons BYU has been so
successful most of the past 30 years is they type of players they recruit. I
would love to see them keep getting more non-LDS players who want to live a
higher moral standard while in college. Having lived outside Utah for many
years, I know many non-LDS people who live the LDS standards. I consider some of
them to be great friends.
This is great for BYU and BYU is a great place to play linebacker. Some very
tough ombres have come out of the BYU linebacking corp. And I like the non LDS
factor. Utah is very pleased with the former BYU linebacker they hired as head
@ Duckhunter, Did you read what I had just written ? Why the slam
? Don't turn this into something bad.
It's nice to see a devout Catholic like Leuta-Douyere choosing to play for a
school that is known for its high standards.
RBNBiegal has been in Provo all week and very well could end up a
@Cougar_IndependenceTo be fair clowntown claims to be a usc
"fan" and not a fan of utah at all. While it is true he spends alot of
time on BYU articles making a fool of himself, and his comments are pretty
similar to the stuff we get from wedgie, failstorm, christina b or howie, it
would appear he isn't a utah fan so I wouldn't want to lump him in with them. It
isn't fair to the good utah fans around here.
These two look like some very good players and should fit into Broncos 3-4 up
front defense really well. Has anyone else noticed that the four major schools
in Utah have all been getting better recruits in the last three or four years
? Ron McBride at Weber State, Gary Anderson @ USU, as well as the Utes and
Cougars have definitely raised the bar in their respective programs and are
gradually building a better program through their recruiting efforts. Good
luck to all this season. I'm just really happy that we don't have lockouts
in college sports.
@ crowntown1You can down play the commitments by these two
linebackers all you want, but the truth is these two guys are very good football
players that had offers from some great programs, they obviously were evaulated
well by these programs.I know you thought that BYU was just going to
go away into obscurity with "Independence" but they will only grow
stronger on the national stage, football players like these guys from around the
country will want to come to BYU for the great experience.Don't make
the mistake of thinking BYU Football won't be relevent for years to come.
I live in So Cal. Servite is always in the running for state championships.
These big Catholic schools down here actually recruit players. I'm glad to see
BYU recruiting there. Hopefully, they'll continue to feel good about BYU. BYU is
more cosmopolitan than people expect, because of the nation-wide recruiting. I
like the way Bronco provides chaplains for the non-LDS kids.Lets not
make them conversion projects. That could upset their parents and close the
BYU Dude,Biegal already committed to Wisconsin. I'm a Ute fan, but
am encouraged that young men of other faiths can still see the benefits of a
positive, moral environment. I've appreciate the comments from BYU
fans about the Ute fans keeping it classy. It would be easier to keeep it
"classy" if celebration of getting a recruit didn't include statements
such as "BYU just took a huge lead in the recruiting battle with
Utah." Utah fans should be held to the same standard.
Excellent post kamute, but crown town just dropped the classy streak for ute
fans on this board.As info, ESPN has this kid listed as the 16th
best MLB recruit in the country, the 3rd best out of California. 4 stars.Go Cougars!
Stone Wall, Leuta-Douyere lead the Servite team in sacks as a
sophomore, which says A LOT about him. He's part of the 2013 recruiting class
and was already receiving interest from other BCS schools.
I was hoping for this commit, lets hope its a sign of good things to come.
Butch may not be the best in drop back coverage at 5'11", but put another
20-30 lbs of muscle on him he'll collapse the pocket every time.
Woohoo! Good get for the Cougs. I love how, without fail, when recruits talk
about BYU they always cite how they just feel good when they're on campus. They
can't describe it; it's a different feeling than anywhere else they've been.As a BYU alum I can attest to that. There's just a great feeling at
BYU. Like the recruits, I can't describe it, it just feels good.
To come to BYU Camp and earn an offer shows that L-D is a potential starter in a
few years. Butch is going to be just fine in the middle. Keep the good recruits
flowing into Zion. Hopefully we get a few more of the best that want the BYU
experience. Please make a few of them great running backs. Just one more day to
crowntown1You're saying that schools like Nebraska, Iowa State,
Washington, Oregon State and Colorado are heavily recruiting and offering
scholarships to players that aren't top players? Now you have to qualify your
statement with "he's not THE top player" or "he's only made a
verbal commit" just to save face?Just can't admit when you're
proven wrong, can you?
I think it deserves to be noted that not one Ute fan has come with a negative
comment yet. Good for them, and as BYU fans let's not instigate something that
isn't there. I don't know why the first instinct of both fan bases
when a player commits to another school is to discredit and downplay the
recruit. Utah is a great program, and they are getting more and more solid
recruits. Some that BYU offered. That's a fact and good for them. BYU also gets
good recruits, some that Utah has pursued, and a big recruit for either school
is a big recruit. As for these two specific recruits, Pau'u was a
big one. Heavily recruited and ESPN has him as a 4-star LB rated higher than any
other current commit. Leuta-Douyere you can't really say the same thing about,
so hopefully he's one of those recruits where the coaching staff was ahead of
the curve and saw something early that other programs didn't, similar to an Eric
Weddle or Andrew Rich-type recruit
Sky walker First off it's a verbal commit. Second Pauu is a good
player but not the top LB in Southern California so you can acting like you just
landed Chris claiborne.
Nice!I saw this one coming after reading up on what the both of them
said about BYU. It's no surprise that they committed together. Now Butch is the
new top recruit in the class, right up there with Tanner Mangum. I hope that his
friend can be a good outside linebacker, BYU will need some in this class with
the loss of Pendleton and Frazier. I almost wonder if they are going to switch
Kyle Van Noy to strongside linebacker in 2012 to make room for some of these
other guys at weakside. Go Cougs!!!
These kids come to camp, come to a fireside / family home evening, hear some
great character and faith based inspiration and they see the difference between
what BYU offers and the other options out there.Bottom line is that
it's not all about football and that's makes the difference.Congratulations to a couple of kids that want something more. BYU has it.
Thanks to you Ute posters for being classy. Let's all keep it classy and try
not to compare Utah vs BYU, as it could get ugly very quick. Let's stay
civilized and on topic and I don't see why anybody should not be able to have
their input.I am pleased that quality non-LDS guys see BYU as a
great place to go. Hopefully more will see BYU as the place they want to be,
even if it is a different religion than theirs.
crowntown1 | 11:41 a.m. June 28, 2011 Corona, CA "Your
still BYU! YOur not gonna attract top non LDS players there I'm sorry." ---------------------------DesNews | 10:12 p.m. June 29,
2011 BYU Football Gains Two Southern California CommitsBYU was the first to offer Leuta-Douyere, a devout Catholic, but other schools
such as Nebraska, Oregon State and Colorado were recruiting him heavily and
close to offering at the time of his commit. ***stunned silence***
No Utes badmouthing.
Butch Pau"u and Jherremya Leuta are going to be Great,BYU just
took a huge lead in the recruiting battle with Utah. Now all BYU
need is Troy Hinds, and Vince Biegel, and the Flag Ship Mormon University will
be on there way to a BCS Bowl win.
Exciting news for BYU football fans.BYU signing blue chip,
out-of-state, non-LDS athletes who are attracted to BYU because of BYU's unique
standards -- who woulda thunk it?And turning down offers from AQ
schools like Nebraska, Iowa State, Washington, Oregon State, and Colorado to
boot.THIS is why Bronco added young, enthusiastic coaches like
Dupaix and Cahoon to his coaching staff, to recruit players like Pau'u and
Great news! I have been hoping that Pau'u would committ to BYU for several
weeks, he is a big time committ, nice job byu! And while I will admit I
dont know alot about Leuta-Douyere but the fact that he is Catholic and
committed to BYU is great news. BYU continues to prove they can get good
recruits both LDS and non LDS atheletes. Keep them coming BYU!!!
Obviously this is exciting news for BYU football. I'm even more pleased to see
quality kids from other faiths see the benefits of BYU's environment. Go
Totally stoked about both these guys, but especially Pau'u. This from
Scout.com:"Pound for pound, there may not be a better
linebacker in the West than Pau'u. He's a big time hitter, sheds his blocks
tremendously well and makes every tackle. Great pursuit, plays well in space and
sees the field extremely well. Great leadership and instincts. The lone drawback
is his size. He's filled out well, but he's on the short side, especially for a
middle backer. Still, you can't argue his production or his play."If his size is the only drawback (he's listed as 5' 11 1/2"), then the
sky may be the limit for this kid. We've been getting a load of talent at the
LB position lately. Pretty cool, too, that Leuta-Douyere is
Catholic but decided to come to BYU. That seems to be happening a lot lately
with Bobby Wolford and now L-D. Vindicates the previous article that Dupaix is
targeting the quality, non-LDS athletes who want to live the standards
encouraged by the BYU atmosphere.Go Cougars!
nice get cougars, both players should be great in few years!!!!!Good
stuff.jute19, you are a scholar and a genteelman.
Come on D-News what was wrong with my comment?Lets try this again.
Good Get for the Cougars. Now lets get the first year of
Independence on the right track, and see the fruits of their labor come into
fruition. If your doubting how BYU will do in recruiting as an Independent you
must be wearing crimson colored glasses
Both look like good, if not, great recruits for the Y. I for one and a huge U
fan but can't help be so excited for the future of college football in the state
of Utah. Congrats guys.
"Pau'u had received offers from Nebraska, Iowa State, Washington, Oregon
State and from Colorado at the time of his commitment to BYU."4
star recruit, turning down AQ schools to attend BYU.Any questions?
BYU can and will get the top LDS recruits. Period.Go Cougars!
Prime example of how BYU can and will win the recruiting battle! Great pick-up
by BYU and Bronco! Now, when do the utes starting dismissing the
importance and ability of these kids... In 3...2...1....