Just one question...Wondering where it is that millions in taxpayers money comes
back to their pockets? Where are the millions,how does it come to the state?
Does it go to the teams? Does it stay in the state? If we are not going to see
millions in the state of Utah, why are we fighting this war? Is it so that
someone can look good or just in case one of our fantastic college teams make it
to a BCS bowl, the school can clean up on it? Not sure where Utah will fit in
@ Johnny Triumph,... and anyone else not understanding why the NCAA
doesn't "police" itself:1. The BCS was created by the
"top" conferences for college bowls (albeit a select few bowls) to
make big money from a new TV contract AND to pit the two top-ranked teams
against each other to determine the national champ.2. The NCAA has
NEVER had any control over the bowls for Div 1 colleges, other than to certify
them and to maybe have a few insignificant rules. The NCAA has never attempted
to determine a national champ---the bowl games have been around for many decades
as entities in and of themselves. Such declaration was left to the two main
polls: Coaches and AP.3. The AP poll did NOT become part of the BCS
bowl national champ declaration. However, they've generally agreed with the BCS
choice most years. I don't remember which year, if any, where they might have
disagreed.So, it's not a matter of the NCAA "policing
themselves." They've never attempted to control the bowls, and so they
never will.It's been an individual enterprise thing for the college
bowl games. That history isn't easily upturned.
Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!! The Utes are now a part of the cartel so it is now a
good thing. Please don't mess with it. I know we have all vigorously complained
about it in the past but now that we are in the cartel we take back all those
bad things we used to say about it. Really, we were only kidding before.
I would have cheered if the headline had been"Shurtleff seeking to
assemble illegal alien busting legal team."But, it is no big
deal having tens of thousands of people here violating federal laws to get here,
then state laws while here, and costing tax dollars for education, medical care,
and taking jobs from citizens. Not to mention that a lot of our crime is by
people here illegally.But, we had time to prosecute two state
employees who wrongly took it upon themselves to fight illegal immigration after
the situation was ignored by other state officials, including AG Shurtleff.Priorities are important, sir. Wasting legal resources on football
games shows that yours are dreadfully skewed.I had previosuly been a
strong supporter of Shurtleff, but if he ever runs again, I will vigorously
campaign for his opponent!
I should clarify... I said "I don't support this cause" in my latest
post and that might cause confusion.I support the people who want
this to protect college students ethically and in their career paths... but I
don't support the sports arena in the college system. So I meant to say, that
while I don't support college sports... I still support this decision as it's
representative of the people who want to protect an ethical standard and right
the wrongs committed against many students, their families, and others, etc. -
Also, while I don't support sports in college... while they are part of the
system, I can't help but agree that an ethical issue like this is important,
especially if it affects so many people.In a perfect world there
would be plenty of tax payer dollars to address what we want. - This isn't
perfect, but everyone is entitled to those same rights - to seek redress through
a court of law. - 1 person saying that taxes should build better roads, and 1
person saying that taxes should protect them from a sport decision they view as
legally wrong- who's rights matter more? Shurtleff is not wrong for representing
The big question here is why are the college presidents such crooks that they
refuse to police this themselves. The government has every right to get involved
with all this money at stake.
To everyone who says "Seriously Mark? There are better ways to use the
money!"First, I don't care for Mr. Shurtleff's track record...
I'm one of the most outspoken critics of the LGBT movement but the gay couple
that was assaulted certainly had every right for the law to punish those who
committed the crime. Mr. Shurtleff's lack of commitment to justice in that case
deeply offended me as a concerned citizen. So he isn't exactly favored by my
view...With that said.. people view this decision as wasteful of tax
dollars. I disagree. I personally push for 1) funding education loads more than
we do and 2) using those funds wisely. - I personally think that sports have no
place in the college system. This is my belief.BUT, most citizens
disagree. Most people love their sports, and deeply. If Mr. Shurtleff was told
by one person to address something, that's one thing... if 10,000 people said
it... that's something else. It's a duty of a public (key word here...)
"representative" to represent the people.So while I don't
care for his decisions, and I don't support this cause, I still recognize that
it represents the people's will.
I wonder if Mark has been invited to the PAC 12 party at the capitol tomorrow?
College football is big business and employs a ton of people all over America
from Coaches to concession workers to secuity guards to clean up people. So
what if it is controlled by a cartel? So is big oil. Come on Mark get a life!
Priorities...its that simple. Even the AG has a budget, and I'm going to go out
on a limb, and say his effort on BCS issues displaced other issues likely more
important to Utahns. As well, this will burn Federal resources, that I KNOW
have better things to do right now.This is the current AG's MO...his
agenda, his priorities, his beliefs...all else be damned...Alas, we have
activist judges at the Federal level who do not respect the law nor the faith
given them in their appointments...our AG is of the same ilk...only we get to
throw him out!
Shurtleff can't do one thing about national politics, as stated by some comments
I personally cant stand most sports. I feel that MANY things have wasted tax
payer dollars in this area. The REAL stadium was given tax dollars and I do not
support that. Simple smart financial decision making... don't throw money into
something that is already failing.With all that said... I have no
problem with this decision- Wanting to seek legal review of this is not bad for
the state to do as one must consider that there are college students who have
been wronged by this, which is not fair for their career advancement, etc. There
have been plenty more that have been affected by this that simply aren't in the
spotlight...And most importantly... if schools get tax dollars...
how they operate is the public's concern... this is nothing new... but how
sports are managed has impacts on ethics, the lives of those involved, and the
career opportunities of those students... If we're going to fund schools, then
people have every right for the state to invest in the schools being run
The BCS is an abomination, but the truth is Utahans don't care too much anymore
about action with the Utes in the PAC. I think we've also accepted
BYU isn't much of a BCS contender so it doesn't matter if they're in or not.
Come on 'cval', you really think this is that important. We are in debt up to
our ears, the economy in Utah i not good because of the nation/world situation.
A lawsuit about the BCS is a waste of court time and money. Pure and simple.
While the case revolves around sports, the principle of law (antitrust) is
incredibly important to our way of life and our economy.This is a
great opportunity to uphold that principle.Go for it.
Waste of money.With the direction that Obama is taking this country
to....there are other issues more important than suing the NCAA over football
playoff system.1) Deficit --trillions of dollars2) Health
care3) Ignorance of the US constitution by Obama regime4) More
dependent on China everydayand many more...Bottomline:
Football is only a game --for entertainment only!!!
I hope this will not be with state tax money. If he wants to spend his own
money, OK, but not my money. There are important issues before us, the BCS
isn't one of them.
What a waste of time. Why doesn't he do something like opposed the power grab
going on in lybia right now? Do something that will actually make a difference.
Regardless what govt does to intervene, it's a shame the NCAA won't police
itself in football. Why they allow an outside group to control the naming of a
football champion is terrible. And yes, I understand it's all to do with money,
but surely the NCAA can hire someone to run a BCS-like system for themselves.