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Utes, Cougars, Aggies hot on trail of Cottonwood QB Cooper Bateman

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  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 26, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    Someone screening the comments on this article is a little too sensitive to having his Utes critiqued.

    A very odd screening process indeed.

  • showmeyatd's Pleasant View, Utah
    June 24, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    This kids headed out of state to a big time program like Texas, Florida, OU etc...

  • Maverick West Jordan, UT
    June 22, 2011 9:49 p.m.

    Why is it unethical to offer a scholarship to a sophomore or even an 8th grader? It should be honor that a University is willing to commit to offer a scholarship to someone so young and great opportunity for that individual. I see nothing wrong with it.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    June 22, 2011 3:38 p.m.

    hedgehog,

    I would suspect that a non-LDS kid living in Utah is much, much more likely to be a Utah fan rather than a BYU fan. That would be a simple reason as to why there are not many instate LDS kids. Besides, most of the football talent (as with most of the population of the state) is in the Salt Lake/Provo/Ogden area, and most kids are LDS. There aren't many non-LDS kids in Utah period, much less non-LDS athletes. That pool is so small, and most of them would want to go to the U of U anyway.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    June 22, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    Re: Idablu

    It does sound a little crazy but David Sill the 8th grader you mentioned is a six foot 8th grader and is the startung QB on the Varsity team. Plus this kid has been working with QB guru Steve Clarkson. This kid will be a big time recruit by the time he enters his senior year. AAU teams and other club teams that you see everywhere nowadays is clearly for the player to get looked at by colleges.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    June 22, 2011 12:08 p.m.

    @Flashback

    I remember reading an article recently about USC approaching an 8th grade QB and offering him a scholarship. Not only do I think that is unethical, I think it is insane!

    I think recruiting a kid after their Junior year is fine, since most kids are already making decisions as to where they are going by Fall of their senior year.

  • md Cache, UT
    June 22, 2011 11:24 a.m.

    Don't do USU. It would stink to play for a team that is essentially like a JV squad for UofU.

  • Lone Star Cougar Plano, TX
    June 22, 2011 10:02 a.m.

    Cooper, good luck to you no matter where you go. It looks like you have talent so work hard and make the most out of it.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    June 22, 2011 7:40 a.m.

    Approaching a kid as a sophomore? That should be banned. Let them go to high school and recruit them after they are done playing their senior year.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 22, 2011 7:33 a.m.

    rivertonkewg,

    I simply asked if bYu has had any non lds INSTATE players. I would suspect the percentage is much lower than out of state. I'd be willing to bet (heavy) that Cooper has zero interest in bYu....he's just being polite.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    June 22, 2011 12:57 a.m.

    "just wondering how many (if any) instate non lds players have attended byu?"

    hedgehog,

    You yourself have spoken many times of the disadvantage BYU will have in recruiting because of its LDS culture (it's "their" church's school, so they have an attatchment to it). You often laugh at BYU recruits saying they are subpar and wanted to go to the Y because it is an LDS school and not because it has a good football program (because in your mind nobody would go to BYU for football).

    However, here we have a non-LDS kid considering BYU (as well as some non-LDS players already on the team, such as Drew Phillips, JJ Di Luigi, and Cody Hoffman). What does that mean? If they aren't drawn to BYU because it is their church's school, then they must be attracted to the football program!

    Wait! This creates a contradiction.... BYU has no good football program, yet people consider going (and many go) because it has a good football program. Which is it?

  • Dougedug Henderson, NV
    June 21, 2011 11:54 p.m.

    If this kid stays in the state hes going to Utah, BYU would be a good fit for Batemen but BYU has plenty of quarterbacks to choose from. Who would not want to go to Stanford, great education. Ole Miss is too far away and a long ways for his parents to travel.

    Utah State has no shot at him.

    BYU fans should be happy for him no matter where he goes, and wish him the best of luck and vice versa for Utah fans if he were to choose BYU

  • Aggie84 Idaho Falls, ID
    June 21, 2011 11:28 p.m.

    All this stuff about going to Stanford. If you haven't lived the lifestyle of California and Palo Alto/Menlo Park you are in for a rude awakening of the outside world. Was on campus during the days of John Elway. Utah kids are not prepared for that type of outside of Utah experience. Stanford is a fantastic scholastic school but not the kind of school most Utah kids can transfer to. Keep it simple stupid is the best advice I ever received.
    And yes I remember Jim McMahon. I placed a helmet in his backside. Wish I knew who I was tackling in High School. Would of hit him harder.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    June 21, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    Once utah is crushed by both USC and BYU in September, this kid will shy away from the hill.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    June 21, 2011 7:37 p.m.

    I think the young man would look great in Utah Crimson and the PAC would be a great showcase for his talents.

  • Stackhouse paradise, nv
    June 21, 2011 6:17 p.m.

    Colby Bockwoldt and Dan Coats are the last non-LDS BYU players that I can remember coming from Utah.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    June 21, 2011 6:11 p.m.

    Man, when I was a sophomore, all I could think about was passing my driver's test. This kid's gonna make a trip to Ole Miss.

    It's too early.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    June 21, 2011 6:02 p.m.

    For those who did not get past the 2nd page...

    A lot of my friends are Mormon, and down at BYU, they have great people there, great people to be around. I really like their coaching staff. I love Coach Doman, and BYU is an offer Ill definitely consider.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2011 5:13 p.m.

    DevilishUte | 4:58 p.m. June 21, 2011
    Tempe, AZ

    Careful. The soccer mom will throw out some random name. He's still thinks Blechen has left the U.

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    June 21, 2011 5:01 p.m.

    I agree Stanford is your best decision. Even though it would be good to see the kid play for Utah.

  • DevilishUte Tempe, AZ
    June 21, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    Soccer Mom -

    Jimothy McMahon played in the early 80's and is not from Utah, although he did play at RHS. I think the Hog is looking for a more recent example.

  • bigsoccer Syracuse, UT
    June 21, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    hedgehog | 4:12 p.m. June 21, 2011
    Ann Arbor, MI
    "just wondering how many (if any) instate non lds players have attended byu?"

    Have you ever heard of Jim Mcmahon?

  • JTB Tracy, CA
    June 21, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    Go to Stanford if you can. That is my advice regardless of football.

  • Just Truth Saratoga Springs, UT
    June 21, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    Seems like a good kid, with good parents, and good perspective. Props to the state of Utah for another good student and football player! No wonder he has offers from BYU, Utah, and Utah State. Hope he continues to represent the state well wherever he decides to go, even if it isn't quarterback U. Go Cougs!

  • Stackhouse paradise, nv
    June 21, 2011 4:13 p.m.

    Norm Chow needs to stick around somewhere for more than the 2 1/2 years he has been averaging since he left BYU in 1999. He really needs to show that he can make it through the hard times though I know the last 2 times it wasnt his choice to leave. You always hear that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. I hope for all of these kids that are going to the U to learn from this offensive genius that he doesnt leave them high and dry in 2 or 3 years (or worse get fired). The guy did wonders with both Carson Palmer and Phillip Rivers.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 21, 2011 4:12 p.m.

    just wondering how many (if any) instate non lds players have attended byu?

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2011 3:57 p.m.

    Go West to Stanford. That degree is worth an extra million over a lifetime over all the other colleges and you will be hired right away from better firms.

    If football is your only decision, come play for the Utes.

  • cougar76 Raleigh, NC
    June 21, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    forreal people, painful trying to make sense of your post...painful.

  • cougar76 Raleigh, NC
    June 21, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    Re: ZonaZone, this first year is critical for both BYU and the ewes. Do well and the future looks bright. BYU gets a lot of recruits who will sign irrgardless of the win/loss record because they are LDS and want to go to BYU. But, if we can't win consistently as an independent we will lose out on recruits who want to play for a winning program or who are looking for a ticket to the NFL. Same goes for Utah if they turn out to be an AU/ASU/WSU clone.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    June 21, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    If you can't spell you likely can't reason...know what I mean forreal people?

  • CougarBlue Heber City, UT
    June 21, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    According to Utah fans, who regularly comment on BYU articles, anyone who is offered a scholarship by BYU must be a second class athlete. Wait, just a minute Utah offered him a scholarship. Wow, I guess they are also looking at second class athletes.

    I used the same logic Hedgie and Chris B and forealpeople used.

  • cork Murray, UT
    June 21, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    Norm will not be around when this kid is ready for any college.
    Come back in two or three years and then see who's all fired up to take him. Way too early, boys.

  • Zona Zone Mesa, AZ
    June 21, 2011 2:41 p.m.

    I am very curious how Utah will do in the Pac 12. I think they can compete right away, but if the prove to be non-competitive for the first few years, they could easily end up being another Washington State. But if they can compete, and the door is open for them to do so with USC on probation, they could build some momentum and build the program up as a perennial Top 10 team.

  • Ravenal Somewhere in, Utah
    June 21, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    Seems like "forreal" needs to "get real".

    Switch every reference to BYU with Utah (and vice versa)and the comment is equally fitting.

    That aside, good luck to this kid, where ever he goes.

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    Should have been GOOD LUCK I got interrupted.

  • trueblueBYU Provo, UT
    June 21, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    Re: forreal people. Strange, strange comment. What an unreal world to live in! We win some, we lose some. Some we lose by bad luck and some you lose by bad luck. What's the big deal?

  • billybubba South Jordan, UT
    June 21, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    forreal people @ 1:57
    look who is calling the kettle black
    and Utah and Utah State fans say he is slow and cant play or he would have gone to the anywhere else. So what is the difference? sounds like a good kid NO matter what good luke to him whereever he goes.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    June 21, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    Hedgie,

    So you just discount everything he says about BYU? Way he lying? You can't admit that he is considering BYU, so you just tell everyone that he is not telling the truth when he says he is seriously considering it?

    forreal people 1:57 p.m

    Nice tirade, but I haven't the foggiest idea what your point is.

    Ute fans make the same exact comments you say BYU fans make, just look at hedgie, Chris B and the rest. Boards are not made up of the "biritest tuls in the sched." (By the way, next time use spell check. It's those little red lines under the words you typed that were misspelled.)

    So, I think you must be intellectually dishonest, confused, and have a reality/logic block mechanism in your brain.

  • forreal people Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 21, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    BYU fans never fail to make the "it's a smart choice to go to Utah if he wants to play" comment. It's second only to the "BYU didn't want him any way comment (see Harvey Langi)>"

    They only pull that card if BYU either lost a recruit to Utah, or lossing the recruit appears likely.

    So in other words: To a Y fan, BYU can't lose, ever. They can't ever loos a recruiting battle or a football game. When they loose football games (see Utah vs BYU 2010), the fans say they won and provide endless reasons as to why the won.

    Boy does that style of fandom get old. It is evidence that you can always assume a BYU fan is intilectually dishonest, confused, and have a reality/logic block mechanism in their brains.

    I'm not sure if it will ever set in that Utah is winning the recruiting battle with it's bitter rival only 30 miles away. Even if all the evidence proves it, and all the football fans thinks so.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    June 21, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    "Bateman is not LDS, but has lived his entire life in Utah"

    Weber State has a better chance then Byu for this kid.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    June 21, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Won't be long before he gets an offer from Washington, Oregon, USC, Florida, Ohio State, LSU and Tennessee. They usually look at kids that have Utah offers and try to steal them. Since he's not LDS BYU is probably a long shot to get this kid. I doubt he rides the pines where ever he ends up. Have a great Junior season.

  • Clear Thinker Draper, UT
    June 21, 2011 1:29 p.m.

    Does Norm Chow plan on coaching as long as Joe Paterno? An interesting perspective from a kid who may not see a snap under Norm for 4 years. It is better to commit to the place you feel most comfortable rather than people, because coaching staffs change and change often.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2011 1:21 p.m.

    williary | 1:02 p.m. June 21, 2011
    Kearns, UT

    Leave Duckhuner alone. He won't be commenting on this article since he doesn't comment about teams' recruits.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    June 21, 2011 1:12 p.m.

    "theyre going into the Pac-12, they have Norm Chow there to coach me, and Ive always loved their program.

    This looks like a copy and paste from the previous articles of Utah commits.

  • Aggie84 Idaho Falls, ID
    June 21, 2011 1:05 p.m.

    Why would anyone want to sit the bench for the Y. How many quarterbacks do they need anyways? Ask Riley Nelson. If you want a wife go to the Y. If you want to play go to the U or USU.
    Sounds like your parents made a wise choice.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 21, 2011 1:02 p.m.

    As Duckhunter would point out, the first team to offer was Utah, so clearly BYU is just tagging along taking advantage of the Ute coaches talent evaluation.

  • kstep15 Logan, UT
    June 21, 2011 12:52 p.m.

    Get after Aggies!!

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    June 21, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    If Stanford offers and a kid has the grades, why wouldn't he go? Hope to see him at Utah though.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 21, 2011 12:11 p.m.

    You have to think he will grow a little more before college also. It will be interesting to see how well he does the next couple of years.

  • davidutefan Evanston, WY
    June 21, 2011 11:54 a.m.

    It's very early and he clearly hasn't made up his mind. Sounds like a good kid though. good luck wherever you decide.