BYU fans if you don't know what your talking about please do not post. Larry
Scott is a ROCK STAR and has got the PAC12 a awesome TV deal.
@1984Was something in my post inaccurate? What parts? Weren't utah
and colorado the two best choices based on the pac10's criteria? I'm not
understanding what you would take offense with there.
Bottom Line: Your mischaracterization of Larry Scott and his
performance is laughable. He just landed a massive TV deal for the PAC and will
bring in another $Billion or so for the PAC-12 TV network, in addition to
another $2 Million per school for the PAC-12 championship game. That Utah was
in a position to be invited with Colorado is a credit to them.BYU
was a no-go from the start - there's no use in crying in spilled milk, my
Why so many comments from Utah haters? We (BYU) are perfectly happy in the
Independant Conference, aren't we?
@ Duckhunter | 9:29 a.m. June 22, 2011 Highland, UT Do you
need a tissue?
The only thing Chris Hill did was accept the PAC 10's invitation after Texas
decided to stay in the Big 12.Larry Scott swung for a homerun and
got a bloop single. As Bottom Line said, the PAC 10 just needed two
warm bodies. They could just as easily have been Idaho and Utah State.
@Bottom LineI don't think chris hill is a genious, more or less he
was in the right place at the right time. To an extent I agree that utah was
simply a warm body but they were also almost the only warm body that fit what
the pac10 needed. If you scan the rest of the western half of the U.S. there
really isn't anyone else. BYU is inarguably superior athletically but just about
everything else about BYU does not fit in with the pac10. Really
colorado and utah were the only choices. They were in the two big biggest metro
areas the pac10 wasn't currently in, they are good schools academically,
definately superior to any of the other western state run schools not currently
in the pac10, they have decent state backing, they both have moderately decent
athletic programs, neither is great but they are both better than any of the
other western state schools top to bottom.They simply were the only
choices based on what the pac10 had for their criteria. Really the next two best
options would have been San Diego St. and UNLV so that tells you what they were
Read the article on the power conference pac.10, 151 bowl games an astounding
51.6% won, utah will fit right in and maybe get 50% winning season. So that in
mind they are equal to the conference as a whole.
Otis Spurlock Your jealousy notwithstanding, Tom Holmoe should be
recognized for trading in the MTN and the worst conference television package in
Div 1A for an 8-year contract with the Worldwide Leader in Sports.Net result for BYU and Utah:BYU is already scheduled to play SEVEN
games on ESPN this year.Utah is only playing on ESPN once, courtesy of
BYU.btw, the top of the WCC will be on par with the MWC and adding
just a few solid OOC opponents will keep BYU's RPI right about where it was in
the MWC, maybe even a little better, andBYU will be playing at least
a dozen basketball games on ESPN next season, compared to one nationally
televised game on CBS last season.From an exposure standpoint, which
Holmoe stated up front was BYU's primary goal for going Independent, BYU got
exactly what it was looking for,which, btw, is head-and-shoulders
better exposure-wise than what Utah will have this coming season -- that's not
@ Utah 95. The 25 million was a product of 2 warm bodies regardless of who they
were. It could have been Utah State and Idaho State. It doesn't mean that Utah
St brought 12.5 million. Look I am just saying that Chris Hill is the genious
Bottom Line,At the very least, the addition of the Utes and
Buffaloes has brought 25 million dollars to the conference since that is how
much Fox has agreed to pay for the Pac-12 Championship game in football.How much money Utah will bring to the Pac-12 is speculative at this
point. In a few years, we will be able to see how many more television sets
were tuned in to Pac-12 games and compare that with Pac-10 viewership.
SoCalUtahFan"In MWC football, Utah won for the conference
millions with 2 BCS games plus other bowls."Don't kid yourself,
it wasn't that much. All five non-BCS conferences share in the revenue from
non-AQ teams playing in a BCS bowl.In 2009, when TCU and Boise State
both played in a BCS game, non-BCS conferences made a record $24m, of which, the
MWC got $9.8m, or a little over $1m per team. Of course, the participating teams
get a much larger share.In 2008, when Utah played in the Sugar Bowl,
non-BCS teams got a total of $19.3m. The MWC got about $7.8m. It was about half
that when Utah played in the Fiesta Bowl in 2004.Bottom line: BYU
will make more in one regular season game this year as an Independent, than the
Cougars received from Utah playing in two BCS games.
I was disappointed that the article did not talk about Tom Holmoe. Tom needs to
be recognized for his brillant move in moving all sports but football to an even
lesser conference than the old MWC. He also needs to be recognized for pulling
out of the MWC in football and going independent (Which, by the way, had nothing
to do with Utah being invited to the Conference of Champions)like Army and Navy.
Hmmm...non contributor...let's see...In MWC football, Utah won for
the conference millions with 2 BCS games plus other bowls.Same for TCU's 2
BCS games.BYU, on the other hand, got a few bowls of under 1 mil
re: Mountanman | 7:18 p.m. June 21, 2011 I agree. Emotional
intelligence is one of those silly buzzwords that means you have empathy or like
Bill Clinton they are really good at "feeling your pain"
To all Ute fans enamored with the brilliance of Larry Scott because he allowed
the greatest heist in sports history to occur by inviting an atheletic program
that in the words of many affiliated with the Pac 10 did not add one dollar to
the Pac 12 TV contract. Yes we are talking about the Utes. Not one dollar was
added to the TV deal. I will reserve my perspective on brilliance to Dr Hill
for pulling this deal off. Dr Hill is a genious plain and simple to have pick
pocketed the leaders of the pack. Of course, his experience of riding coatails
for money is deep from his time in the MWC letting big brother pull the heavy
load. If you need evidence, look at the upcoming exposure agreements. Utah
basically has zero TV coverage while BYU's is abundant.
I have been wondering all day what "emotional intelligence" means! I
know what emotions are and I know what intelligence means but the two words used
together sounds like an oxymoron to me. The only thing I can come up with in my
research is that is has no meaning! Can someone out there help those of us who
can't grasp such an abstract non-concept?
bottomline,Typical Ute fan to call the the Cougars as non
contributers. Yes, I know even Hawaii has more BCS clout than BYU but come on...
they beat UTEP last year.
@Bottom LineThat is pretty low why are you bashing the cougars? I mean it
was bad enough they werent invited but to call them a non contributer!Anyways I enjoy reading about Scott, he seems like a decent guy unlike the
Thompson dude. It will be exciting to watch the Pac 12 compete.
@Bottom LineWhere have you been? BYU was not invited to the Pac-12.
Why are you acting like they were and calling them out?
I will hardly label Scott as brilliant considering he allowed a non-contributor
to take millions of what wasn't theirs.
Every time I hear Scott speak reminds me how glad I am Thompson is not at the
helm of our conference
Larry,We barely know you but on behalf of hundreds of thousands of
Utes, we are glad we do know you.