Make that 25 year old, married, balding and with 2.5 children.
Crowntown1,There are LOTS of "Laker haters" throughout the
world. MANY of them follow teams with World champion banners.
Nothing like reading comments from you guys. YOu have made the rivalry a joke
with your finger pointing. And to all you Laker haters, you have no World
Champion banners . . ZERO ZIP.
Oh my, the kittens are once again showing their mile wide jealous streak by once
again being drawn to anything Ute like a moth to a flame. Pretty funny stuff
they are say too like a one loss team is better than an undefeated time and
other Y fan myths. As I remember that 1 loss team almost lost to Kansas State.
Too bad for you nobody else buys your myths and your team still finds itself
uninvited. Consider this, if BYU had done what Utah has done in the last 10
years they would likely have received a BCS invite. Rise to the challenge and
do what do what your big brother has already done twice in the last 10 years and
maybe one day your team will be called out of the minors. Until then Y jealousy
on Utah stories is just baseless hot air by the jealous and insecure. I agree
with the writer in CO that the Utah vs. Colorado rivalry will take the place of
BYU vs. Utah. Utah doesnt anything left to prove as they are up on the Y by 21
games. Go Utes, Go PAC 12
To trueblew. Nobody in the national media remembers anything about
any of the BYU teams except for 1984. They know that some good qb's came out of
BYU and they know Lavell and Norm. Nobody gives a sniff about 1996 or 2009.
Going undefeated was the only was a non AQ got any recognition. Nobody
remembers Boise State went 12-1 last year but they remember TCU beating a great
team in Pasadena or Utah beating Alabama. It launched both into BCS conferences.
1984 was your year as a non AQ. If BYU doesn't go undefeated, they will never go
to a BCS game and their seasons won't be remembered outside of the KBYU realm.
The BYU fans will remember their good teams but that's it. The same goes for my
Utes. Outside of Uteville, nobody nationally cares until we win a big game.
That's how it works. Lose a game and you're done unless you are in a conference
that has an automatic qualifier. It's reality.
Phoenix and True Blue,Try as you might, it's tough to argue that a
team with a loss accomplished more than an undefeated team, especially one who
trounced its opponent in a BCS bowl. (Ironically, your arguments sound very
familiar to those used by BCS apologists.) To the extent that your argument has
any merit though, it certainly applies even more to BYU's 1984 team than it does
to Utah's 2004 team. And it's funny how you both conveniently omit Utah's 2008
team who defeated several ranked teams AND remained undefeated. Perhaps you are
suggesting that the 2008 Utes are the highest achieving football team in the
Beehive state's history.skywalker,There's absolutely no way a
non-AQ team with a defeat would have been invited to a BCS bowl in 2004. Even
with the bar lowered in subsequent years, only undefeated non-AQ teams have
received invites. Just like BYU's current situation, as a non-AQ team, one loss
means you're out of the BCS race. And as an independent, that means the rest of
the season after that first loss is merely a series of exhibition games
(including the weak bowl game if eligible).
If the BCS had existed in 1996, with the exact same rules that existed in 2004,
BYU would have been a lock to play in a BCS bowl.
BYU 1984 won the national championship, but BYU 1996 may have been BYU's best
team, and BYU 1983 was a very close second.
Please True Blue stop using facts. I would much rather celebrate in ignorance.
It may work out for Boylen. Some coaches make great assistant coaches, but lousy
head coaches. Being a head coach requires a much different skill set than is
required of an assistant coach.
KamUte"to say the [BYU] 1996 team did something better than
Utah in 2004... is crazy talk"BYU 1996 won 14 games, compared
to 12 for Utah 2004.BYU 1996 14-1 #5/#5beat Texas
A&M(6-6)- Pigskin Classiclost at #16/#15 Washington(9-3)beat New
Mexico(6-5)won at Utah State(6-5)beat Rice(7-4)won at
Utah(8-4)beat #22/#22 Wyoming(10-2) - WAC championshipbeat #17/#17
Kansas St(9-3) - Cotton BowlUtah 2004 12-0 #4/#5beat Texas
A&M(7-5) won at New Mexico(7-5) beat No Carolina(6-6)won
at Wyoming(7-5)beat #25/unranked Pittsburgh(8-4) - Fiesta BowlBYU beat TWO Top 25 teams (both polls); SEVEN teams with winning records;
THREE teams with as good or better records than anyone Utah played. BYUs only
loss was to a Top 15 team on the road.Utah 2004 didnt beat a Top 25
team (both polls) and only beat FOUR teams with winning records.BYU
1996 accomplished significantly more than Utah 2004.#5/#5 versus
#4/#5 is a virtual tie in final ranking
sources are now confirming that Boylen has been offered and has accepted the job
as assistant coach with the Lakers. Congrats coach!
Mr. Fenix,The only year any national media remember for BYU is 1984
and mostly because they were mad at the way it was handled and delivered. The
1996 team may have been better but nobody in the national media remembers it.
Same for the 2009 team. Just like nobody will remember last year unless you went
undefeated. There were many teams better than BYU in 1984 but the system had no
choice. We will never know if Utah was better in 2004 and 2008 than the teams
ahead of them but to say the 1996 team did something better than Utah in 2004
and 2008 is crazy talk. Fenix needs to go back to Wonderland and
keep thinking of other scenarios. Head to head is the only measuring stick.
"Jealous independents" - very accurate description. Just look at the
kittens flocking, once again, to Red Roundup! Just sit back and accept the
irrelevance Holmoe has got you into!Go Utes! The future is bright,
the future is Crimson - get Used to it!!
willary; lay down on the couch and tell us all about your BYU obsession. I think
we will find that it is jealousy based and that you are not beyond help. BYU
bashing is nothing new. They have beaten down so many other teams and have had
so many good seasons that people are tired of it and lash out any way they can.
Remember this BYU fans. The little doggies can run along the side of big
brothers blue bus but the bus doesn't stop and most of the people don't even see
Wow. You don't even have to be a marginal collegiate coach to coach in the NBA.
Lol! I love it! Being a Ute fan and a Laker hater I hope Boylen carries his
losing record over to the Lakers. The Lakers desreve to lose and the Utes
deserve to have the winning tradition they were once known for. Go Utes
and boo to the Lakers!
@phoenixSorry, but 14-1, 10-2 is not, and will never be, equivalent
to 13-0.Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl are both MILES ahead of anything BYU
has done since 1984.Utah never printed t-shirts proclaiming
"Quest to almost win all of our games and beating a yearly overrated
K-State team." On the other hand, we all know Bronco still
wears his "Quest to accomplish what our big brother already has"
t-shirt around campus.
Who cares what a Colorado sports writer says? Both Utah and BYU are above his
standards and his level of understanding.
It's time to move on on both sides. BYU has their thing going on by themselves
and Utah has their big thing they share with 11 others. Move on! BYU likes
Independence and Utah likes being in the Pac 12. Both will do well and have
Everyone should relax on the BYU/Utah back and forth. Nothing to see here.This is about some sportswriters in Colorado having something against
ALL things Utah, whether it is the Utes, the Cougars, or the Jazz. If you
remember, Woody Page has never had anything nice to say about the Jazz.
Thanks for the link to the good CU story. And the "swipe" is all
truth. - "Utah will face Brigham Young University on Sept. 17, in Provo.
Now that the Utes have joined a BCS conference, playing a jealous independent
with 25-year-old players isn`t the same as the bitter Holy War days when the
programs were fighting for conference championships and national respect."
Good luck Boylen. I hope you do well. Some coaches are meant to be head
coaches, some are meant to be assistants. Great article about the U
and the Buffs! "Jealous independents" - classic!! This should bring
the kittens out in droves! Whatever gets them through the night!!It
is great to be a Ute! Onward and Upward!!
@Hondo... And when was the last time the Jazz won a Championship?
The Colorado writer calling BYU jealous of Utah is simply projecting his inner
jealous Ute; afterall, the Buffs shared their championship, and that, only after
that famous 5th-down play that should have eliminated the Buffs from the
Can we get more frequent updates on Jim Fassel, McBride, Crowton, Roger Reid,
Brent Guy, etc? I'd much rather read about former coaches than the current news
about Utah's sports teams.Not! Please quit reporting
(or linking as it were) on stories about former coaches who, in most cases, are
FORMER coaches of the state's sports programs for a reason.
williaryAny fan who thinks that going 14-1, finishing #5 in both
polls, and beating a ranked Big 12 team in the Cotton Bowl is
"insignificant" doesn't have a clue.What BYU did in 1996
is easily the equivalent and in many ways more significant than what Utah did in
2004 -- BYU 1996 beat three opponents that finished the season ranked in both
polls; Utah 2004 didn't beat a single opponent that finished the season ranked
in both polls.BYU 1996 #5/#5 versus Utah 2004 #4/#5BYU
2009 wasn't too far behind, 11-2, #12/#12The naysayers need to take
off their crimson-colored glasses once in awhile and come back to reality.btw, Colorado will never replace BYU as Utah's most bitter and hated
rival. The large segment of BYU hating Utah fans will ensure that the Buffaloes
will never be anything more than a travel partner for the Utes.
I hope he get's the job because I'll hate the Faker's even more. Good luck Kobe
and company; you guys are has been's!
Good for him. I hope he gets it. Boylen is passionate and would do well
Boylen is a great assistant ocach. If he gets the job, he will do well.
Colorado fans find BYU fans interesting. They see a fanbase whose team hasn't
done anything significant on the national stage in 30+ years, yet can't stop
mentioning something that happened in the 80's. You see, Colorado
had the same level of success, more recently than BYU, yet their fans don't
bring it up.BYU fans are an interesting case study to Buffalo fans.
I hope Boylen gets the Lakers job because that will probably lead to the Lakers
I want to know why Colorado is so fascinated with BYU, there are always articles
coming out of that state about Utah and BYU and how much they dislike us.