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  • UtahGal Salt Lake City, UT
    June 23, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    Make that 25 year old, married, balding and with 2.5 children.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    June 22, 2011 7:30 a.m.

    Crowntown1,

    There are LOTS of "Laker haters" throughout the world. MANY of them follow teams with World champion banners.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    June 20, 2011 9:59 p.m.

    Nothing like reading comments from you guys. YOu have made the rivalry a joke with your finger pointing. And to all you Laker haters, you have no World Champion banners . . ZERO ZIP.

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    June 20, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    Oh my, the kittens are once again showing their mile wide jealous streak by once again being drawn to anything Ute like a moth to a flame. Pretty funny stuff they are say too like a one loss team is better than an undefeated time and other Y fan myths. As I remember that 1 loss team almost lost to Kansas State. Too bad for you nobody else buys your myths and your team still finds itself uninvited. Consider this, if BYU had done what Utah has done in the last 10 years they would likely have received a BCS invite. Rise to the challenge and do what do what your big brother has already done twice in the last 10 years and maybe one day your team will be called out of the minors. Until then Y jealousy on Utah stories is just baseless hot air by the jealous and insecure. I agree with the writer in CO that the Utah vs. Colorado rivalry will take the place of BYU vs. Utah. Utah doesnt anything left to prove as they are up on the Y by 21 games. Go Utes, Go PAC 12

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2011 5:57 p.m.

    To trueblew.

    Nobody in the national media remembers anything about any of the BYU teams except for 1984. They know that some good qb's came out of BYU and they know Lavell and Norm. Nobody gives a sniff about 1996 or 2009. Going undefeated was the only was a non AQ got any recognition. Nobody remembers Boise State went 12-1 last year but they remember TCU beating a great team in Pasadena or Utah beating Alabama. It launched both into BCS conferences. 1984 was your year as a non AQ. If BYU doesn't go undefeated, they will never go to a BCS game and their seasons won't be remembered outside of the KBYU realm. The BYU fans will remember their good teams but that's it. The same goes for my Utes. Outside of Uteville, nobody nationally cares until we win a big game. That's how it works. Lose a game and you're done unless you are in a conference that has an automatic qualifier. It's reality.

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    June 20, 2011 5:46 p.m.

    Phoenix and True Blue,

    Try as you might, it's tough to argue that a team with a loss accomplished more than an undefeated team, especially one who trounced its opponent in a BCS bowl. (Ironically, your arguments sound very familiar to those used by BCS apologists.) To the extent that your argument has any merit though, it certainly applies even more to BYU's 1984 team than it does to Utah's 2004 team. And it's funny how you both conveniently omit Utah's 2008 team who defeated several ranked teams AND remained undefeated. Perhaps you are suggesting that the 2008 Utes are the highest achieving football team in the Beehive state's history.

    skywalker,
    There's absolutely no way a non-AQ team with a defeat would have been invited to a BCS bowl in 2004. Even with the bar lowered in subsequent years, only undefeated non-AQ teams have received invites. Just like BYU's current situation, as a non-AQ team, one loss means you're out of the BCS race. And as an independent, that means the rest of the season after that first loss is merely a series of exhibition games (including the weak bowl game if eligible).

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    June 20, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    If the BCS had existed in 1996, with the exact same rules that existed in 2004, BYU would have been a lock to play in a BCS bowl.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    June 20, 2011 3:32 p.m.

    BYU 1984 won the national championship, but BYU 1996 may have been BYU's best team, and BYU 1983 was a very close second.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    June 20, 2011 3:22 p.m.

    Please True Blue stop using facts. I would much rather celebrate in ignorance.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    June 20, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    It may work out for Boylen. Some coaches make great assistant coaches, but lousy head coaches. Being a head coach requires a much different skill set than is required of an assistant coach.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    June 20, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    KamUte

    "to say the [BYU] 1996 team did something better than Utah in 2004... is crazy talk"

    BYU 1996 won 14 games, compared to 12 for Utah 2004.

    BYU 1996 14-1 #5/#5
    beat Texas A&M(6-6)- Pigskin Classic
    lost at #16/#15 Washington(9-3)
    beat New Mexico(6-5)
    won at Utah State(6-5)
    beat Rice(7-4)
    won at Utah(8-4)
    beat #22/#22 Wyoming(10-2) - WAC championship
    beat #17/#17 Kansas St(9-3) - Cotton Bowl

    Utah 2004 12-0 #4/#5
    beat Texas A&M(7-5)
    won at New Mexico(7-5)
    beat No Carolina(6-6)
    won at Wyoming(7-5)
    beat #25/unranked Pittsburgh(8-4) - Fiesta Bowl

    BYU beat TWO Top 25 teams (both polls); SEVEN teams with winning records; THREE teams with as good or better records than anyone Utah played. BYUs only loss was to a Top 15 team on the road.

    Utah 2004 didnt beat a Top 25 team (both polls) and only beat FOUR teams with winning records.

    BYU 1996 accomplished significantly more than Utah 2004.

    #5/#5 versus #4/#5 is a virtual tie in final ranking

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    June 20, 2011 2:02 p.m.

    sources are now confirming that Boylen has been offered and has accepted the job as assistant coach with the Lakers. Congrats coach!

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    Mr. Fenix,

    The only year any national media remember for BYU is 1984 and mostly because they were mad at the way it was handled and delivered. The 1996 team may have been better but nobody in the national media remembers it. Same for the 2009 team. Just like nobody will remember last year unless you went undefeated. There were many teams better than BYU in 1984 but the system had no choice. We will never know if Utah was better in 2004 and 2008 than the teams ahead of them but to say the 1996 team did something better than Utah in 2004 and 2008 is crazy talk.

    Fenix needs to go back to Wonderland and keep thinking of other scenarios. Head to head is the only measuring stick.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 20, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    "Jealous independents" - very accurate description. Just look at the kittens flocking, once again, to Red Roundup! Just sit back and accept the irrelevance Holmoe has got you into!

    Go Utes! The future is bright, the future is Crimson - get Used to it!!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 20, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    willary; lay down on the couch and tell us all about your BYU obsession. I think we will find that it is jealousy based and that you are not beyond help. BYU bashing is nothing new. They have beaten down so many other teams and have had so many good seasons that people are tired of it and lash out any way they can. Remember this BYU fans. The little doggies can run along the side of big brothers blue bus but the bus doesn't stop and most of the people don't even see the doggies.

  • md Smithfield, UT
    June 20, 2011 12:52 p.m.

    Wow. You don't even have to be a marginal collegiate coach to coach in the NBA.

  • He-Man Bountiful, UT
    June 20, 2011 12:47 p.m.

    Lol! I love it! Being a Ute fan and a Laker hater I hope Boylen carries his losing record over to the Lakers. The Lakers desreve to lose and the Utes deserve to have the winning tradition they were once known for.
    Go Utes and boo to the Lakers!

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 20, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    @phoenix

    Sorry, but 14-1, 10-2 is not, and will never be, equivalent to 13-0.

    Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl are both MILES ahead of anything BYU has done since 1984.

    Utah never printed t-shirts proclaiming "Quest to almost win all of our games and beating a yearly overrated K-State team."

    On the other hand, we all know Bronco still wears his "Quest to accomplish what our big brother already has" t-shirt around campus.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 20, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    Who cares what a Colorado sports writer says? Both Utah and BYU are above his standards and his level of understanding.

  • Ldsfan South Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    It's time to move on on both sides. BYU has their thing going on by themselves and Utah has their big thing they share with 11 others. Move on! BYU likes Independence and Utah likes being in the Pac 12. Both will do well and have their struggles.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2011 11:42 a.m.

    Everyone should relax on the BYU/Utah back and forth. Nothing to see here.

    This is about some sportswriters in Colorado having something against ALL things Utah, whether it is the Utes, the Cougars, or the Jazz. If you remember, Woody Page has never had anything nice to say about the Jazz.

  • zeba Brigham City, UT
    June 20, 2011 11:37 a.m.

    Thanks for the link to the good CU story. And the "swipe" is all truth. - "Utah will face Brigham Young University on Sept. 17, in Provo. Now that the Utes have joined a BCS conference, playing a jealous independent with 25-year-old players isn`t the same as the bitter Holy War days when the programs were fighting for conference championships and national respect."

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 20, 2011 11:35 a.m.

    Good luck Boylen. I hope you do well. Some coaches are meant to be head coaches, some are meant to be assistants.

    Great article about the U and the Buffs! "Jealous independents" - classic!! This should bring the kittens out in droves! Whatever gets them through the night!!

    It is great to be a Ute! Onward and Upward!!

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    @Hondo... And when was the last time the Jazz won a Championship?

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    June 20, 2011 11:08 a.m.

    The Colorado writer calling BYU jealous of Utah is simply projecting his inner jealous Ute; afterall, the Buffs shared their championship, and that, only after that famous 5th-down play that should have eliminated the Buffs from the championship race.

  • Hondo Alpine, UT
    June 20, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    Can we get more frequent updates on Jim Fassel, McBride, Crowton, Roger Reid, Brent Guy, etc? I'd much rather read about former coaches than the current news about Utah's sports teams.

    Not!

    Please quit reporting (or linking as it were) on stories about former coaches who, in most cases, are FORMER coaches of the state's sports programs for a reason.

  • phoenix Gilbert, AZ
    June 20, 2011 10:17 a.m.

    williary

    Any fan who thinks that going 14-1, finishing #5 in both polls, and beating a ranked Big 12 team in the Cotton Bowl is "insignificant" doesn't have a clue.

    What BYU did in 1996 is easily the equivalent and in many ways more significant than what Utah did in 2004 -- BYU 1996 beat three opponents that finished the season ranked in both polls; Utah 2004 didn't beat a single opponent that finished the season ranked in both polls.

    BYU 1996 #5/#5 versus Utah 2004 #4/#5

    BYU 2009 wasn't too far behind, 11-2, #12/#12

    The naysayers need to take off their crimson-colored glasses once in awhile and come back to reality.

    btw, Colorado will never replace BYU as Utah's most bitter and hated rival. The large segment of BYU hating Utah fans will ensure that the Buffaloes will never be anything more than a travel partner for the Utes.

  • pate123 willard, ut
    June 20, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    I hope he get's the job because I'll hate the Faker's even more. Good luck Kobe and company; you guys are has been's!

  • Fahrvergnugen Provo, UT
    June 20, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    Good for him. I hope he gets it. Boylen is passionate and would do well

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    June 20, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    Boylen is a great assistant ocach. If he gets the job, he will do well.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 20, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    Colorado fans find BYU fans interesting. They see a fanbase whose team hasn't done anything significant on the national stage in 30+ years, yet can't stop mentioning something that happened in the 80's.

    You see, Colorado had the same level of success, more recently than BYU, yet their fans don't bring it up.

    BYU fans are an interesting case study to Buffalo fans.

  • Hondo Alpine, UT
    June 20, 2011 9:44 a.m.

    I hope Boylen gets the Lakers job because that will probably lead to the Lakers being weaker.

  • bigsoccer Syracuse, UT
    June 20, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    I want to know why Colorado is so fascinated with BYU, there are always articles coming out of that state about Utah and BYU and how much they dislike us.