Veterans association pays $440 fine for 'list' creator


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  • tenx Santa Clara, UT
    June 17, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    The Tribune had a report that Shurtleff wanted her to serve her community service (part) sentence in the Mexican community. He really is "compassionate". And so funny!

  • stgjazzfan Saint George, UT
    June 17, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    Why, is it that no one is outraged by the threatening phone call made to the veteran who paid the fine? Maybe his rights were violated when his information was shared with the radical who called and threatened him? I guess theres no compassion for those who fight for the rights and freedoms of this nation; we seem to only have compassion for those who demand these rights, even if they might not belong here.

  • Tom Smith Sandy, UT
    June 17, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    Whatever happened to whistle blower laws? It is absolutely incredible that Carson and Bassett were held responsible for disclosing information that Law Enforcement has access to at all times but failed to do so. And when did Law Enforcement begin to ignore law breakers? These guys almost fight each other to bring in a "bad guy" (unless it is a family member). And then Shurtleff says he doesn't have enough money to go after them? This implies that he would take action, but....he doesn't want to? How crazy is that? It sounds like things are still rotten in Denmark.

  • ksampow Farr West, Utah
    June 17, 2011 1:01 p.m.

    Remember the overused slogan "What part of 'illegal' don't you understand?" that is so often thrown out to demand deportation? That should be applied in this case - releasing private information obtained illegally by a state worker abusing authority. I am a veteran and I believe in law and order. THIS IS A CLEAR VIOLATION OF THE VALUES THAT I UPHOLD. This was not a list of names of illegals. It included PERSONAL INFORMATION PROTECTED BY LAW about people that were ALLEGED (SOME WRONGLY) to be in violation of immigration laws. What if someone illegally obtained and then published your name, address, and social security number if he thought (with no proof) you had used illegal fireworks?

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    June 17, 2011 12:08 p.m.

    @Naruto | 10:30 a.m. June 17, 2011

    Actually the opposite is true. The list held primarily illegal names on it with just a few legal ones.

    @The Sensible Middle | 11:33 a.m. June 17, 2011

    We all should be against government coerced compassion.

    This Veterans group is a perfect example of how true compassion works.

  • Gruffi Gummi Logan, UT
    June 17, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    If somebody breaks my door and shouts "show your compassion and give me some money", should I be compassionate? How far reaching compassion should be?

  • The Sensible Middle Bountiful, UT
    June 17, 2011 11:33 a.m.

    This is all so confusing.

    Are we against compassion or aren't we?

  • mtmanmc Colorado Springs, CO
    June 17, 2011 10:59 a.m.

    I'm going to aply the ABC which means Actions, Believe System and Consequences. The actions are Illegals crossing into The United States of America. The believe, that these Illegals should have Rights in this country is wrong. The consequences is we the taxpayers are paying for these illegals with lower wages and lost jobs. Courts, jails and prisons are overhelm by illegals every single day. Illegal documents are used everyday to cover up illegals actions. Yet we allow laws to be passed and signed into law, which cause people to break the laws.
    I'm a Combat Veteran. When are we the people going to wake up before loss control of The United States of America?

  • Jazz Bass Man Wellsville, Utah
    June 17, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    Thank you veterans for your service to our country, and to your service to fellow patriots who were only trying to bring attention to those who are destroying our country and abusing taxpayers. You have the respect of most of us.

  • minju Bountiful, Utah
    June 17, 2011 10:42 a.m.

    Jesus taught and practiced compassion as opposed to strict adherence to the law in all circumstances. The LDS and Catholic churches likewise. Its gratifying to see the tea party "patriots" have finally come around.

    Better late than never.

    Welcome to the high road.

  • Naruto Murray, UT
    June 17, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    The problem some of you might not realize is that the "list" contained more legal citizens' names on it than illegals.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    I was REALLY hoping that these cases would be heard by a jury.

    NO WAY would they have been convicted by 12 Utahns.

  • Loganhistorian Hyrum, UT
    June 17, 2011 8:43 a.m.

    Hooray for the Vets! I think they get it!

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    June 17, 2011 8:31 a.m.

    I'm glad that at least some of the people are standing up for what's right. If citizens don't take action to defend this nation from threats within our own borders we will lose it.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2011 8:13 a.m.

    After witnessing the way Yapias attacked this women in the courthouse calling her a felon.......I immediately decided that these two women are hero's! Yapias seems to forget that it is a felony to steal social security #'s punishable by upto a $250K fine/six months in Jail! Most all of the 1300 on the list are guilty of this ID crime....shurtleff says he does have the money to prosecute those on the list.....all he needed was to collect on one fine conviction?

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    June 17, 2011 7:53 a.m.

    Excellent, the veterans have fought for freedom and understand when its being stolen from us by poor government action.

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    June 17, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    Sorry but until I saw that she was showing a great deal of remorse for what she did, I'd not rescue her. I believe in consequences for our actions. That's how we learn. Its not my job to impose consequences; its the court's job. The consequences have now been imposed and I don't think it makes any sense for anyone else to stand up and agree to suffer any part of her consequences. I've seen no evidence in the press that she is trying to pay one penney of restitution for what she did.

  • tenx Santa Clara, UT
    June 17, 2011 6:43 a.m.

    Now THAT is what I call compassion! I will be donating to this Veterans organization.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    June 17, 2011 6:34 a.m.

    See, compassion isn't that bad is it? Lots of people talk against it, but apparently they have come around? Or is compassion only for us and our friends?

    Show me anyone who has refused a warning ticket for breaking the law and then insisted they want the wrong thing.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 17, 2011 6:32 a.m.

    Well done, vets!

    Now, what has AG Shurtleff done since "the list" was created to either check to see if those names were indeed people violating out laws?

    And, what have state agencies done to search out criminals in our midst using the data available in state databases?

    The "list makers" should be hailed as heroes, not vilified and punished!

  • Janca salt lake city, utah
    June 17, 2011 6:29 a.m.

    Pick and choose your lawbreakers...it is the Utah way.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    June 17, 2011 6:18 a.m.

    It's pathetic when "rescuers" pay fines and thereby make heroes of lawbreakers!

  • Yorkshire City, Ut
    June 17, 2011 6:06 a.m.

    Am I the only one who sees this association as something other than simply "veterans" paying this fine??

    They may be veterans, but I know a veteran who is appalled at being lumped in with those who support those who "ignore the law" by creating a list and leaking it--all in the name of hoping to compromise those who they decry for "ignoring the law" and being illegal.

  • Where's Stockton ??? Bowling Green, OH
    June 17, 2011 5:34 a.m.

    If Leah Carson's list leads to the arrest of only one person and prevents the murder of one Police Officer, Highway Patrolman or Sheriff's Deputy... or worse... the murder of thousands as on Sept 11th 2001 then it will have paid for itself a thousand times over. Ms. Carson is the victim in this situation and not the illegal aliens. Too much is being left to chance by not having stronger controls over immigration. In reallity it won't be long till they start finding mass graves on our side of the border if we don't enact and enforce stronger immigration laws. Who ever made the threat against the veterans group speaks volumes to what menace is really out there.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    June 17, 2011 1:28 a.m.

    Here's one combat veteran who will not be joining their organization. How does paying criminal fines help combat veterans?

  • JBrady Murray, Ut
    June 16, 2011 11:25 p.m.


  • mtmanmc Colorado Springs, CO
    June 16, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    I have a comment, that reaches beyond your willingness to help with the fine. Thank You for a job well done. The Taxpayers are being use and abuse by illegals who break the laws.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    June 16, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    Gentlemen, you have my gratitude. I would of gladly contributed.