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Published: Wednesday, June 15 2011 11:20 p.m. MDT

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MTaylor
PROVO, UT

There are a lot of us that are probably delegates here. And stopping the name calling would be nice, but on both sides.

I have neighbors in the construction business (20 years) that are being told to pack 15 people into their house so they can live on the reduced wages?

These men are good honest men. They don't deserve this, none of us do. When they speak up about those here illegally they are called racist, lazy, etc.

MTaylor
PROVO, UT

The American worker is the most productive worker in the world. So calling us lazy is calling us names.

Jonathan S
Salt Lake City, UT

MTaylor: "I have neighbors in the construction business (20 years) that are being told to pack 15 people into their house so they can live on the reduced wages?

These men are good honest men. They don't deserve this, none of us do. When they speak up about those here illegally they are called racist, lazy, etc."

The people who are offering your friends this advice deserve the country they're making, but patriotic Amerians don't. Would I be correct in guessing that those offering the advice are company owners or managers, the sort who can be relied on to extoll immigrants' inspiring work ethic?

On another note, the illegality of immigrants has little to do with their effect on wages -- it's their expansion, hence cheapening, of the labor pool that matters most. Their willingness to work "off books" plays a role, but only a supporting one.

Immigration's scale is more damaging than its occasional lack of government sanction.

JBrady
Murray, Ut

Utah's law does change the legal status of those who apply, they are given temporary residency without threat of deportation. Yes, it does create new immigration policy. That ability does not exist right now for any state.

Why can't the farmers in Utah use the current visa program that's unlimited? Why do we need a second class labor pool with 9% unemployment?

It's against Federal immigration law and labor laws to give visa jobs to people when Americans will do the job, when paid a comparable wage for the area. Americans aren't lazy, and we aren't stupid either. It's the dishonest business owner that is being subsidized by the taxpayer through illegal labor. Who is lazy?

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

gizmo33 8:58am. Do the math. If labor cost is 35% of the cost of strawberries, which at the store I shop at is $1.50/lb., and you double the labor cost to attract legal residents who need a job that pays enough to live on, how much does that increase the cost of strawberries? Then do it again using triple labor cost. Then again with 4x the labor cost. I WILL pay more for strawberries to give a legal resident a good paying job. I WILL pay somewhat more at the hardware store for US made products instead of buying made in China products where workers are paid 1/10th what a US worker needs to make.

Upson Downs
Sandy, UT

It is to bad that the Sutherland Institute tries to pass itself off as a "conservative think tank". The Sutherland Institute is really nothing more than the political propaganda think/speak arm of the LDS Church. One only has to look at their positions on issues such as Immigration and who they side with on these issues to see that they are really a liberal think tank trying to fool people. True Conservatives support the U.S. Constitution and U.S. Law. Both of which are contrary to HB116. True Conservatives also do not vote along with Democratic Politicians like Democratic Senator Luz Robles. Robles is a staunch supporter of Amnesty for Illegals along with the LDS Church and the Sutherland Institute follows their positions.

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