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Utah life expectancy leads the nation, but falls behind some struggling countries

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  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    June 17, 2011 11:30 a.m.

    To "George | 4:46 p.m." so what you are saying is that eventhough the article was clear in its arguement, and even said that "they adjusted life-expectancy stats to get a rough handle on what life expectancy would have been like had the rates of these deaths been the same in all 29 countries. Their result: The U.S. would have ranked first, at 76.9 years of life expectancy an increase of 1.6 years. Meanwhile, Japan fell from 78.7 years to 76 years, indicating it had been benefiting inordinately from low rates of accidental deaths and homicides."

    So you think that I am wrong eventhough the articles says that the US would have the greatest life expectancy if you adjust for accidental deaths.

    If you comprehend what that article, and its related articles explain, you would find that they show that the use of life expectancy to compare healthcare is a fallacy because it doesn't take into account so many variables.

  • BobP Port Alice, B.C.
    June 16, 2011 5:34 p.m.

    The point is simple some groups have a lifestyle that is not conducive to longevity.

  • George Bronx, NY
    June 16, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    @redshirt
    I read the article and it is actually about the errors in the claim that accidents account for the disparities between the United States and other countries, but thanks for providing evidence to refute your own claim.

    Care to tackle the question of differences within our local community that you have not yet addressed?

  • George Bronx, NY
    June 16, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    @redshirt
    Its interesting that you would sight that as your source, did you read the article? It actually contradicts what you claim and points out the statistical errors in the data by the authors(economist)that originally made such claims. Also I do not see where you addressed my question about local disparities, a simple over sight I am sure.

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:57 p.m.

    now not know..haha...sorry

  • Sorry Charlie! SLC, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    @redshirt
    So know people in Tooele and Glendale are more accident pron then people on the east bench?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:52 p.m.

    To "George | 3:24 p.m." read "Does the U.S. Lead in Life Expectancy?" in the Wall Street Journal.

  • chubbymagoo Salt Lake City, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:28 p.m.

    This study affirms what we already know. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

  • George Bronx, NY
    June 16, 2011 3:24 p.m.

    @redshirt
    alright I will bite whats your source to support your claim? also how do accidents account for the wide disparity within our own local community?

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:16 p.m.

    I think that it is funny when they compare life expectancy in the US to places ouside of the US. If you read the article "Does the U.S. Lead in Life Expectancy?" you find that the US's lower life expectancy has nothing to do with the medical system at all, but is due primarily to accidental deaths. The studies on life expectancy tend to skip over the fact that the US has more accidental deaths than other nations.

  • George Bronx, NY
    June 16, 2011 3:15 p.m.

    @BobP

    and what is your point?

  • Mr. John SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 16, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    @wastintime

    I totally agree, in addition they also have access to more able to afford less processed food and the money to access health fitness centers and activities.

  • Wastintime Los Angeles, CA
    June 16, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    @Mr. John

    Note my comment about overpriced health care. We ration our healthcare in the USA based upon income levels. Richer people live longer than poorer people because they can afford adequate medical care. In other words, kids on the east bench are on average visiting the doctor and dentist more often than their peers in Tooele.

  • XelaDave Salem, UT
    June 16, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    No reform needed- our system is fine- repeal the healthcare law because the system as constituted is working fine- you may not like the new law but by almost all measures our system is broken and something is needed- at least the new law tries something- and ohhh it is essentially the same "something" touted by R's for years until it became a political tool to be used for elections- just like dislike of medicare and mediaide last year became save it and now this year we are back to kill it- both parties suffer from political expediency and mindless voters reward them all over the country on both sides of the isle- we vote rich and live poor

  • BobP Port Alice, B.C.
    June 16, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    The areas in the south eastern quadrant that have the lowest lifespan ssem to be those with the highest black population.

  • county mom Monroe, UT
    June 16, 2011 1:44 p.m.

    The numbers do not take into consideration how many of the people in south and central Utah were exposed to radiation. How can you possibly do any kind of survey and add up the years that we live without looking at this? Many of us have family members who have lived and died with cancer and other radiation related internal damage. Our family had lived into their late 90s for many generations. Then the government exposed most of us to radiation and noone has made it past 89. No cancer in either side of my family before. Then most are all dying of cancer. Most of us are active members of the LDS faith, we keep the word of wisdom.

  • CanuckFan Vancouver, BC
    June 16, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    I hate to generalize too much, but:

    You're obese
    You eat too much fast & processed food
    You don't exercise enough.

    In Canada, we're not far behind on those 3 areas.

    Getting healthcare to the bottom 30 million that have none would help in the U.S. American care may be technically "better" and more modern than most countries, but it's not accessible to all. It's socialized in Canada, but at least everyone gets a decent level of care. The PREVENTATIVE measures will do far more than spending more on medicine - you already spend more per capita than any country.

    Good to see Utah being ranked relatively high - I presume that's predominatly tied to Word of Wisdom basics.

  • Mr. John SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 16, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    oops rate not right sorry

  • Mr. John SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 16, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    So I have a question for those that keep commenting about obesity and exercise. Are you trying to say that the reason people in places like Glendale and Tooele live on average 5 years less then those on the east bench is simply because they are fat and lazy? The high right of obesity in our country may account for part of why our life expectancy is lower then other countries and make it easy to write it off as to many fat people but how do you account for the vast differences within our own communities?

  • Bandarji Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 16, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    Lies, blasted lies and statistics. Lifestyle is the difference. Drink, smoke, take drugs, both legal and illegal, risky sex lives, overuse of the medical system and drugs, gluttony on processed junk food, not too hard to figure all this out. The foothills are healthier? Imagine that.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    June 16, 2011 8:57 a.m.

    Re: "For a woman living in Tooele, she'd be better off living in Uruguay or Albania . . . ."

    I asked my wife -- she's not moving.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    June 16, 2011 8:25 a.m.

    It's hard for a young mother of 4 to be happy when she could not get medical attention because of no insurance and no money until a tumor in her brain grew to bigger than a golf ball.

  • E. Matscheko St. George, UT
    June 16, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    The "Word of Wisdom" may have something to do with it!

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    June 16, 2011 8:11 a.m.

    In some countries a newborn that lives 2 days or so is not counted as a live birth. This can affect the statistics. Overweight people think there is something besides exercise to lose weight, there is not. They need to walk 4-5 miles a day. Diets always fail anyway 90% of the time for long term results. They should also go to a gym 3 times a week. It's your life.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    June 16, 2011 7:38 a.m.

    By my calculation, 15 of the top twenty states for life expectancy are "blue" states, 4 are "red" states and one is classified as purple.
    Maybe more liberal states are evil in the eyes of conservatives, but they sure do live longer.

  • grj Bountiful, ut
    June 16, 2011 7:06 a.m.

    I'm getting old. I dont know how long I'll live, and certainly don't care how long it will be when compared to folks in other countries. What I care about is the quality of life I'll enjoy in however many days I have left. Longevity produced by better health care purely for the sake of more days does not equate to more happiness. I hope I can be happy when I'm old.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    June 16, 2011 6:48 a.m.

    Stevo123
    They have been voting "R" since "D" started supporting civil rights.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    June 16, 2011 6:24 a.m.

    So we are about the longest lived in the nation, but falling behind the rest of the world.

    Wonder if this is because other nations have a better work, life balance. More vacation, shorter work hours.

  • Rock Calgary, Alberta
    June 16, 2011 5:20 a.m.

    I was shocked at the amount of obesity I saw in central florida a couple of years ago. Im not talking overweight, I mean huge. These people could drastically reduse the need for health care, diabetes, heart disease, joint replacement, etc. The health of the people, the massive costs of their health care, medical payouts frome insurance cos, quality of life, could be revolutionaized with one word....diet. but..that takes personal responsibility and, well, you know.....

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 15, 2011 11:10 p.m.

    Studies like this omit consideration of racial demographics for political correctness. The USA is a very "diverse" population and becoming more so each year. This trend has a negative impact on many things including the longevity index registered in this article. Immigrants, legal or not, from third world countries often bring with them health problems and habits that impact the normal life span. Compare Mexican food verses Japanese food to get a "flavor" of what I mention. One is full of grease, the other has much more seafood and less fried food. Some cultures are uncomfortable with modern medical care and prefer to use unlicensed individuals in their community for medical care. All these factors and more impact how long the average American lives.

  • Wastintime Los Angeles, CA
    June 15, 2011 9:40 p.m.

    We are simply fat pigs with overpriced health care. End of story.

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    June 15, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    Obesity. Take a look around. We are an extremely obese population.

  • stevo123 slc, ut
    June 15, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    Health care? Many counties in the southern USA are losing years, do they have accsess to health care? Just for fun, do they vote "D" Or "R" it would be fun to know.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    June 15, 2011 6:07 p.m.

    That can't be. Their healthcare systems are socialistic.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 15, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    Health care?