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Address change prompts Rep. Jackie Biskupski to resign from Utah House

She looks forward to spending more time with family

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  • county mom Monroe, UT
    June 14, 2011 4:13 p.m.

    Jackie Biskupski seems to have been a good hard worker for those she represented. I am not sure it is any of our business what she does in her bed. As long as she does not lie to us. Representatives should be held to a higher standard of integrity and she seems to have that. Why is "Pagan" and "Pagen" who are both the same person given so much say and time? Why do you all argue with him? This is about a good person who has bought a house in another district and is now having to resign her position. Not homosexual marriage.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    June 14, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    To: Pagen | 11:21 a.m. June 14, 2011 SALT LAKE CITY, UT - in response to your comment: 'My question is why does everyone have to bring up the issue of Gay/Lesbian into this article.' - The Deuce | 10:29 a.m.
    This is a foolish statement Deuce. Why bring it up?" - because many of the responders brought this issue up and it had nothing to do with the decision made to step down, based on the article. I am tired of always seeing this brought up. This is such a non-issue to me regarding the representatives contribution to her district. That is why I made the comment.

  • Last Stand Farmington, UT
    June 14, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    Also,

    "You can't claim that lying to 'some people' including your WIFE, is an 'acceptable' lie, but lying to your constituents is 'wrong.'"

    Where oh where did I say it was an acceptable lie? You're putting words into my mouth and you're quickly losing all credibility.

  • Last Stand Farmington, UT
    June 14, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    Re: Pagan,

    The fact that you fail to see the difference is evidence of your extreme bias. I guess I shoudn't be surprised.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    'I'm not talking about lying to their wives...' - Last Stand | 10:49 a.m. June 14, 2011

    Yes.

    You are.

    You can't claim that lying to 'some people' including your WIFE, is an 'acceptable' lie, but lying to your constituents is 'wrong.'

    Your contradicting yourself!

    Right now!

    Vitter LIED first, and THEN 'confessed' to it. So, that means Vitter was ALSO lying to the public, claiming he had 'moral fortitude' and had sex with ONLY his wife.

    As for the WMD's...

    'Former head of UN weapons inspections Hans Blix also said there was no surprise in the announcement.
    "We have believed that there weren't any weapons since around May or June 2003...'
    - BBC News - 01/12/05

    2003.

    So that means America COULD have left Iraq, after only ONE year in Iraq.

    Today, Bush left America in Iraq, in 2008.

    5 years later we can estimate on how many American lives could have been saved.

    But no. 'Leave it for Obama' to clean up that mess, too.

    You offer for a dictionary is an insult. So, there is no further point in disproving lying in acceptable in 'some' cases.

    Jackie Biskupski, thank you for your service.

    Good day.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    CHS 85 | 7:47 a.m. June 14, 2011
    Sandy, UT

    In your examples, it wasn't known that he would be pulled over for DUI. The guy did live in the correct area, it was the mapping that was done wrong and he stepped down. Do you think a democrat would have one there anyway?

    The problem is, is she acknowledge that she has been planning on moving for awhile. She just decided right after elections.

    Should a person be kicked out of office on a DUI? I don't see why not. Someone that irresponsible can't have the interest of the people in mind. Is it wrong for someone to be told that they live in the boundary when it was a mapping error? No, should they hold the office because of the mistake. No. Although you could argue that the people did elect him. But that was with the supposed knowledge that he lived in their district.

    I guess demos not allowing repubs in on the health care debate is fair?

    It's politics pure and simple. That's what is wrong with the system.

  • Last Stand Farmington, UT
    June 14, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    Pagan,

    Apparently my four comments are up so I've got a different display name.

    I'm not talking about lying to their wives, although I find that reprehensible in both cases, I'm talking about lying to the PUBLIC, trying to cover it up, and basically losing the trust of the people you swore to serve. That's why he should resign. I don't care what double standard you think exists between Republicans and Democrats--frankly it exists on both sides--but the fact that you're trying to spin it against Republicans is utterly laughable. You even managed to bring Bush into it. Don't you see how pathetic that is?

    So, again, explain how Bush lied about WMD's? No rebuttal to my commments?

    By the way, the definition of lying is NOT stating something as fact that actually is not fact but stating something as fact that you KNOW is not fact. Would you like to borrow my dictionary?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 14, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    Dear DN monitor.....

    Did you ever stop to read how many of these comments deal ONLY with New York Rep. Weiner, and have absolutely NOTHING to do with UTAH Rep. Jackie Buskupski?

    Me sees an obvious bias.

  • The Deuce Livermore, CA
    June 14, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    My question is why does everyone have to bring up the issue of Gay/Lesbian into this article. She simply moved and cannot legally represent her disctrict. Seems straight forward to me. I am sick and tired of always trying to bring up whether someone is gay, straight or lesbian with everything. what ever happened to recognizing the worth of the individual and appreciating their contributions. Why do we have to provide a label to all of this?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2011 10:02 a.m.

    'As far as Vitter goes, I think he should've resigned as well. The difference, though, is he was caught and didn't lie...' - Naked Truth | 9:28 a.m. June 14, 2011

    You have a strange concept of what a 'lie' is.

    David Vitter got married. But when he hires one of the 'DC Madams' ladies for sex...that's not lying?
    Also, he didn't announce it without warrent. The DC Madams phone book was made public. Only THEN did David Vitter 'come clean', but he wasn't lying?

    Adultery, and paying for sex is a CRIME, which INCLUDES lying. You cannot cheat on your spouse and not be lying.

    Otherwise, your spouse is a 'swinger'.

    Also, what makes you think I'm DEFENDING Weiner. I never said that.

    Go ahead. Quote me.

    Bush lied and people died. 4,000 dead in Iraq to date.

    Where's Bush? On his Texas Ranch, laughing.

    Regardless of Weiner stays or leaves, it has been almost x3 years since David Vitter admited to paying for sex. Which is a crime and which INCLUDED lying to his wife.

    Asking for Weiners resignation, when Republicans have been shown to SUPPORT this type of activity, shows how morally corrupt they are.

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 14, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Pagan,

    One more thing, why is it that we only hold politicians to ethical standards along party lines? Why are you so adamant in defending Weiner when you think Vitter should have resigned? If both were unethical, then both should go. By the way, the Republican Party would be better off having Weiner stay so they could mount a campaign against him in 2012 to try to win that Congressional Seat. If there had to be a special election, no chance the Republicans win that highly democratic district.

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 14, 2011 9:28 a.m.

    Re: Pagan @ 7:19 P.M.

    Wow, I don't know where to start.

    As far as Vitter goes, I think he should've resigned as well. The difference, though, is he was caught and didn't lie about it and try to cover it up. He owned up to it. Still, if I was a Louisiana voter, I would've demanded he be gone.

    And Bush "lying" about WMD's? Please, such a tired conspiracy theory. If he lied about WMD's then what you're saying is he KNEW Saddam did NOT have them but yet he convinced both Congress and the International Community that Saddam did have them so he could have their support to go to war. All intelligence agenices around the world believed in the existence of WMD's. For a guy that I'm sure you believe to be not so smart, that's pretty impressive, especially since his perpetration of said lie would've had to have begun during the Clinton Administration!

    And by the way, it's not a double standard in the case of Weiner. His own party is calling for his resignation and Obama has even suggested it!

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 14, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    The world is a better place.

  • OutsideTheFox SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 14, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    "There were legislators who could not look me in the eye. There were legislators who would not shake my hand," she said.

    About looking her in the eye: As a man attending a hearing regarding largely father's rights, she winked at me before the hearing. It struck me as misplaced. At the end of the hearing, she proposed a massive verbal change that essentially reversed the changes the bill proposed. From my reading it was a violation of the rules. It was embarrassing behavior.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    June 14, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    Sorry to see her move and have to resign. Thanks for serving your constituents. Have a nice life.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    'Why did she run for office just months ago, if she had plans on moving?' - Liberal Ted | 6:50 a.m.

    CHS85,

    Let's not forget a little known Alaska Gov. who ran for VP, lost, and then quit her first term as Gov. of Alaska halfway through.

    Who could that be...?

    Starts with a 'Sarah', ends with a 'Palin.'

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2011 7:56 a.m.

    The reality Liberal Ted is that the seat vacated by Jackie is solidly liberal. A republican has very little chance. Even if she resigned prior to her last election, a democrat would have carried that district.

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    June 14, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    @Liberal Ted

    You mean like a legislator who runs for office in a district he doesn't even live in and the party gets to appoint someone to fill his spot.

    You mean like a guy who knows a massive scandal is going to hit, but waits until the legislative session is over and he gets to go out on top with a standing ovation instead of his head held in shame? Who appointed the successor to his seat?

    You mean like a state senator who gets a DUI and resigns? Who appointed the successor to his seat?

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2011 6:50 a.m.

    Why did she run for office just months ago, if she had plans on moving? Is that having the best interest of the people in mind? Or is it so the democrats would be able to appoint anyone to that spot without competition?

    Looks like politics to me. It was well planned out. They new she would win, and then they can appoint someone and hopefully have enough time to make a name for that individual.

    Yet the demos complain about gerrymandering. I think they're playing the game just fine.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 14, 2011 12:31 a.m.

    Rep. Biskupski is a friend. She was willing to help anyone's bill be better, Republican or Democrat. I will miss seeing her on the hill.

  • KM Cedar Hills, UT
    June 13, 2011 9:44 p.m.

    There's no crying in politics! Is there?

  • JNA Layton, UT
    June 13, 2011 8:51 p.m.

    The old belief that only the constituents should have a say is bunch of garbage because on both the state and federal level, a representative from New York or Oklahoma or California pass laws that affect me here in Utah just as our members of Congress pass laws that affect every other state. On a state level a member of the legislature representing parts of Salt Lake County pass legislation that affects me here in Layton or someone in Carbon County or Washington County.

  • grj Bountiful, ut
    June 13, 2011 7:59 p.m.

    I would be annoyed at a legislator who chose to run for office, won that election, and then who chose to buy a home outside that district he/she voluntarily chose to represent.

    A lot of you are sidetracking the issue and going on and on about Weiner, adultery, etc, but I think you're missing an important point about trust. Why is there not an issue that this woman choose to run for office and then choose to move out of the electoral district she made claims she would represent during the term of her elected office? Sending inappropriate pictures or cheating on your spouse are not the only ways to let down your constituents.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2011 7:19 p.m.

    'What you fail to aknowledge is that Weiner is in hot water not just because of the sexting, but because he LIED...' - Naked Truth | 3:26 p.m. June 13, 2011

    Ok.

    But so did:

    David Vitter. Republican rep for Louisiana, still serving today. Zero calls for resignation from the Republican party. But they can call on Weiner to resign?

    Double standard.

    Also, if you want to talk about lying:

    George W. Bush.

    "The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons.' - George W. Bush - Ohio Speech 10/7/2002

    No Nuclear Weapons of Mass Destruction were found.

    Ever.

    Also:

    '"We do not torture,"' - Former President George W. Bush - 11/07/05 - BBC News

    Debunked:
    'George Bush admits US waterboarded 9/11 mastermind' - Paul Owen - By UK Guardian - 06/03/10
    'Former US president says Khalid Sheik Mohammed was waterboarded by US and he would do it again...'

    Both examples that conservatives do not hold the Republican party...

    to the same ideals they hold Weiner too.

    Double. Standard.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    June 13, 2011 6:56 p.m.

    Hey, everybody. DeltaFoxtrot is correct. Adultery is the ACT; otherwise it's only "adultery in your heart." Not the same thing.

    Sure, if it's in your heart, it's possible you might do the act. But, it's not adultery itself without the act.

    Still, religious-wise, adultery in the heart is a sin, too. Just not as big of a one.

    Mormon Bishops and Stake Presidents deal with this all the time, and treat the situations accordingly.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    June 13, 2011 6:26 p.m.

    I'm not interested in the sexuial preferances or practices being discussed here, but I think she should have resigned 8 years ago, ALONG WITH every other member of the legislature who has served more than 5 years!! My gosh, what makes these people decide they know better than anyone else how to run things and that they ought to be in power forever? That's precisly what's wrong with the US Congress, every State Legislature and a good many City Councils and County Commissions. They all think they're persons of privilege because they happened to win an election at the ballot box. TOSS THEM ALL I SAY!!

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2011 5:43 p.m.

    @deltafoxtrot
    "There has to be physical intercourse for it to be adultery. "

    Ever heard of the phrase "violating the spirit of the law"? It's kinda like that sort of situation here. Besides you used a biblical defintion but didn't use the one given by Jesus that goes beyond just physical intercourse.

    Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery, Matt. 5: 28

    @LDSliberal

    That moving out of state comment was made when the article was in an earlier version that was just saying she was going to make an announcement. The article was changed after the details of that announcement came forth.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    June 13, 2011 5:43 p.m.

    RE: DeltaFoxtrot

    Adultry as defined by Jesus:

    In Matthew 5 Jesus Said:

    27 You have heard that it was said, You shall not commit adultery.
    28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    LDS Liberal,

    So you must not have a problem with a married man disregarding his marriage vows by engaging in what many in a marriage would term inappropriate behavior because it's not "illegal". Ok, fine. But are you ok with the coverup he spearheaded, lying repeatedly to the public about it? The man does not deserve to be in public service and if he were the representative of my district, I'd vote him out faster than you can say "recall".

  • Mr. John SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 13, 2011 4:38 p.m.

    @LDS Liberal
    In fairness to govt rocks the original article (with a different header) that was running with this thread was before her official announcement and did not include any information on why she was resigning. I only bring it up because I think it only fair to point the finger at the right people in this case the DN.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 13, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    Rifleman | 11:41 a.m. June 13, 2011
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    At the national level Weiner should follow Biskupski's example.

    [What? Rep. Biskupski moved out of her district, she can no longer legally represent her district.

    Rep. Weiner e-mailed stupid messages: Stupid, but not illegal.

    Unless you're grasping for straws by trying to link His sexting indescression to a Lesbian relationship.
    You're mixing Apples and Oranges.
    Typical disconnected logic of Talk-Radio rationalization.]

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    govt rocks | 12:38 p.m. June 13, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    My guess is she is moving out of state. She recently sold her house. Can't really blame her.

    [Obviously - you didn't take the time to read the article before commenting, unless you think she can possibly run or be Mayor of Salt Lake City while living out of state.]

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  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    June 13, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    Your Bible defines Adultery as "lying with a woman married to an husband" from Deuteronomy 22:22.

    The dictionary defines Adultery as "voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse"

    There has to be physical intercourse for it to be adultery.

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    June 13, 2011 4:06 p.m.

    Make that "not seating her..."

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    "Naughty pictures sent, sure. But no adultery has been proven."

    I was with you until you said this. Sending naughty pictures to other people when you are married is still adultery.

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    June 13, 2011 3:33 p.m.

    As usual, I am at a total loss when Ruzicka speaks. Why would Utah not sit a duly-elected representative? If she was eligible to run and won the election, seating her would be a slap to freedom.

    I know this episode was years ago, but give me a break!

  • Naked Truth Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2011 3:26 p.m.

    Re: Pagen

    What you fail to aknowledge is that Weiner is in hot water not just because of the sexting, but because he LIED about it and tried extensively to cover it up. You probably also believe that Clinton was impeached by the house over his affair with Lewinsky, where it was clearly for lying under oath about it.

    Doesn't it speak volumes about the integrity of our current society (or lack there of) where a man in public office can get caught doing something shameful, proceed to lie about it in public, claim some false story to try and cover it up and yet still garner 70% support from his constituency? Disgusting.

  • Mr. John SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 13, 2011 3:02 p.m.

    we love you Jackie, thank you for your wonderful service to our state.

  • md Smithfield, UT
    June 13, 2011 2:25 p.m.

    @ Williary :"Shouldn't being a member of Congress be about serving the people who voted you in? At least that was the rallying cry from Republicans during the Health Care debate.

    Now many like Rifleman have pulled another 180.

    In a recent poll, 70% of Weiner's constituents don't believe he should resign."

    Just shows the lack of good judgement in Weiner's constituents.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2011 2:07 p.m.

    @RBN

    But then not saying voluntary leaves the option of people thinking, at least at first, that she was forced out so... eh, either way someone's going to misinterpret it anyway. At that point you just hope people actually read the article.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    June 13, 2011 1:59 p.m.

    Shouldn't being a member of Congress be about serving the people who voted you in? At least that was the rallying cry from Republicans during the Health Care debate.

    Now many like Rifleman have pulled another 180.

    In a recent poll, 70% of Weiner's constituents don't believe he should resign.

    Shouldn't the final say really be up to those who put him in office?

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    Why would the DNews indicate "voluntarily" resigned? It seems to imply that there may be other reasons that could "force" her to resign. Maybe it's just bad editing.

  • MenaceToSociety Draper, UT
    June 13, 2011 12:40 p.m.

    Did Rifleman call for John Ensign and Tom Coburn to resign? That was a lot worse than what Anthony Weiner did.

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    June 13, 2011 12:38 p.m.

    My guess is she is moving out of state. She recently sold her house. Can't really blame her.

  • George Bronx, NY
    June 13, 2011 11:55 a.m.

    @rifleman
    While understand you probably did not mean it to be, I find comparing Weiners situation to Biskupski's is a real slap in the face. By all indication Biskupski has served her constituents with great honor.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2011 11:41 a.m.

    At the national level Weiner should follow Biskupski's example.