And if he is serious about playing quarterback, he's got some work to do, but
it's not it's not unreasonable. He shows pretty good accuracy, even on the run,
and he does a good job of keeping his eyes downfield to check off options before
running, which is his best asset as long as he doesn't become dependent on it.
He lacks some ball speed (but not as much as Jake Heaps did not only in high
school, but in his first year of college), but that might improve with coaching.
His speed and power speak for themselves and I'm confident that if he plays
defense instead, after one year the strength and conditioning program could get
him to 225 or 230, optimal LB size, and assuming he has the skills, could be a
key player for the team. I'll likely be gone for grad school by the time he
comes, but I'm excited about Utah receiving commitment from a great looking
BYU and Utah both play football and their fans are equally ridiculous. This
case is now closed.
@Samantha G. You're asking for my excuses? That's funny. The Utes lost. That's
it. I don't need an excuse like a rebuilding year. What a joke.
I hope BYU recruits kids while they are on there missions. Why wouldn't they?
Not sure why cougar fans wouldn't want this to happen.
As a cougar fan who bleeds blue, I can't stand Cougar fans who are not man
enough to admit that the PAC 12 is a better option than independence. Believe
me, BYU administrators were sick that the cougs didn't get invited to the PAC 12
conference. Come on cougar fans, just admit it. We are bitter about getting
passed up. I wish the Utes luck in the new conference....I hope
they do well and prove that the state of Utah has reputable football programs. I
still believe BYU will beat the Utes in September and that BYU is the better
program in 2011. Ute fans need to look at the rosters of both teams and be man
enough to admit that. Some years Utah has the better program...other years BYU
has the better program. Thats just how it is.
I cannot believe that I keep reading all these posts about how BYU will win him
back while he's on his mission. These are the same people that claim BYU
doesn't recruit kids while they're out1 PICK ONE. BYU recruits kids while
they are on their mission!! You people are all but admitting it!
He made the right decision, once he gets back fron his mission I don't think he
will be able to beat out Mangum.
CougFaninTX:"Throw in a mission and a redshirt year for Mangum
and he's the projected starter for 2016, 2017, 2018."While both
highly touted 4-star athletes, Hansen is a Rivals Top 250 recruit. Mangum is
not. And that's a fact. Despite Mangum having already given the Y a verbal,
the cougars still aggressively recruited the higher rated Hansen. and that's a
fact too.Mangum being recruited/penciled-in as the cougar's
projected starter for 2016-18, with Hansen as his backup, is NOT a fact. If
Hansen wanted to play at the Y, he would have committed. Had he committed,
Mangum would have had to battle Hansen for the starting QB. That's a fact.
Whichever of the two would have won the competition is pure conjecture. What is
NOT a conjecture is which of these two 4-star athletes is a Rivals-rated Top 250
recruit, and which one is not.
BigCougar:"Fortunately Utah's low appeal didn't drag the game
down even lower than ESPN2 (interesting that Utah St was deemed worthy of the
main channel)."You really think games on ESPN2 have a lower
marketable appeal to games on ESPN? Really? Then why did ESPN put Utah State
and Central Florida on their main channel, but relegate Utah and Texas to their
"nobody cares" one?You really didn't think that comment
all the way through, did you?
@ sammygWin 9 bowl games first and 2nd. why is every year the rebuilding
year excuses roll in ? Every year is a rebuilding year in the NCAA
Naval Vet | 8:32 p.m. June 11, 2011 Philadelphia, PA Cougar
Claws:"In 2014, Heaps and Munns will gone, and Hill will be a
Senior."In all likelihood, Hill will redshirt in 2011, which
means we'll be the likely starter in 2014 and 2015.Throw in a
mission and a redshirt year for Mangum and he's the projected starter for 2016,
2017, 2018.There are a couple of solid names to back them up, if
needed.Just curious, how is in the QB pipeline for U?
sammyg,Rebuilding year? That's not what Bronco called it and most
sports writers said BYU had the talent to win the MWC conference before the
season began. You can look back now and try to downplay it all you want, but
you can't take back all the predictions and expectations that were published
before the season.
@Jute192010 was a rebuilding year for the Cougars. They recovered
towards the end of the season and won their post season game.What
was yoUr excuse for losing the most historic game ever played in RES, losing to
a bench QB at ND and giving up your 9 game winning streak in bowl games?
@swoop13Were "ifs and buts" candy and nuts then you'd have a
giant bag of Peanut M&M's when it comes to your unsubstantiated hopes for
future, not yet scheduled, possible TV appearances. Fantasies are
fun for 8 yr olds (every 8 yr old ute fan thinks they'll play in the NFL etc but
eventually they all wake up to the reality that they'll likely just end pumping
gas for an EX-BYU football player). However, the stark reality is that you
have no appeal on the #1network.So far BYU has 5 of their games
scheduled on ESPN and 3 on ESPN2. Fortunately Utah's low appeal didn't drag the
game down even lower than ESPN2 (interesting that Utah St was deemed worthy of
the main channel). Even in the PAC10.2 you dragged your match up with USC all
the way down to Versus (almost like you're still on the Mtn. There's a reason
teams like Vanderbilt or Wash St get shunted aside onto regional coverage.Its a reality you're just going have to get used to. :-)
I can't wait to see the predictions of how the U is going to destroy USC. I will
be checking the ticker on ESPN for updates, since I most likely will not be
able to watch the game. Are any Utah games going to be in HD this year? Oh yeah,
when they play BYU.
@ Cougar Claws...and you as well. I enjoy the point counter point as
eventually we all learn the hopes, dreams , and wishes of the other person.. not
just those found in the locker room
@ Cougar Claws" Secondly, what about the replay officials? So
they had some ineptitude during a football game ". Avoiding the very
appearance of evil ? What were two Cougars doing in the booth? That
just didn't come across well nationally. BYU does not need that type of scandal
as it just reinforces doubt in the minds of the general public of the validity
in BYU and it's ethics. Face it.. it looked corrupt and the victory was tainted.
Re: TheHailstormI'm sorry if that has been your family's experience.
There are tons of other schools that are great. There is a good possibility I
will attend another school for my graduate degree. BYU's fans should be better
than that. I've never claimed to be perfectly christian all the time but I don't
hesitate to stand up for the Y when others try to run it down. I don't take
serious jabs at the U and if I do here and there it's all in good fun. I don't
mind if U fans take jabs at the Y either, it just all depends on if they are
just joking around or whatever. Either way have a good Sabbath.
@ Cougar Claws I do not run down BYU as a school , just the two faced
hypocrites that post as good boys but have nasty temperaments and intolerance in
others. Both my sister and my wife attended BYU and it is the fans that bother
even them the last few years. I lived the standards that were expected while
attending the U and went to the institute of religion there for additional
classes. Hateful and unchristian is what I see from the blue blooded
Cougar fans of Utah County. They don't seem to have a problem insulting and
degrading those who choose other institutes of higher learning. The BYU honor
code firmly states; " Respect Others " What part of that
do you trolls don't understand ? Physician heal thyself !
@ Cougar Claws; Really and you blue bloods that regularly post here are
just sweethearts toward the Utes. Physician heal thyself.
Re: TheHailstormFirst of all, BYU won fair and square. I don't know
what "loss" you are talking about. Secondly, what about
the replay officials? So they had some ineptitudes during a football game. What
else is new? You do watch college football, right? Do you know how many bad
calls/no calls are made by referees in dozens of games every week? Third, the replay officials didn't throw the game. The Aztecs giving up 271
yards on the ground did. Since they couldn't stop the run with tackles they had
to use facemasks instead.Finally, you want to play the church card? You
know what disgusts me as a member of the LDS religion are members of the church
that attend the U or elsewhere and that run down and say hateful, unchristian
things about a CHURCH institution and think that it is okay just because they
don't attend BYU and think that somehow going to another university excuses them
from living LDS standards. Your standards aren't any different from BYU's as a
member of the LDS Church. You might want to think about some of the comments you
@ Cougar ClawsWoulda, shoulda, coulda. Can't the blue bloods find anything
new to blame a loss on ? I notice that not one has addressed the issue
about the replay officials in San Diego throwing the game. That was a big
eyesore that was embarrassing to me as a member of the LDS religion. My sister
lives in San Diego, was a BYU student, attended the game, and was really
disgusted with the medias interpretation and their their outcry of foul play.
Definitely NOT lovely nor of good report.
He'll transfer after his mission. Mark that down Chris!
Re: Naval VetClearly, you missed the point. This is not about
whether or not facemasks are reviewable. If there is a penalty on a play, even
if there is a turnover, the turnover is null and void. If you get a turnover
illegally, it doesn't count. Kind of like how if you get a touchdown illegally,
it gets called back. If a team breaks an 80 yard run because the left tackle was
holding, it doesn't count. By your same argument, there is no evidence that the
facemask DIDN'T cause the fumble. There was a facemask, no one is disputing
that. The flag may not have been thrown for it, but it should have been since it
happened. Had it been thrown like it should have been, the fumble wouldn't have
counted.NOW, the case is closed.
Cougar Claws:I already told you. "Facemasks" are not
reviewable plays, and there wasn't any evidence that the facemask even
contributed to the fumble anyway. The "strip" was the culprit.The referees did not get suspended for missing a facemask penalty. The
replay officials did get suspended for missing the fumble. It's obvious which
error was the most grievous.Case closed.
When this kid sees Utah's skid in the two years he is on his mission, he'll be
calling BYU. Problem is, if he wants to play quarterback, he'll have to take a
number. BYU is loaded at that position for years to come. I think he knows
that and chose to play in an inferior program rather than take his chances at
Re: Naval VetIf you almost got your head ripped off, you would
fumble it too.That's why it is illegal.So if the flag
had been thrown for the FACEMASK like it was supposed to have, there would have
been no legitimate fumble, and then there would be no argument or discussion
about it, period.Case Closed.
Good to see another great in-state LDS recruit coming to the U. Apparently those
things aren't contradictory. Welcome to the PAC 12! Go UTES!!!!!
Cougar Claws:"You forgot about Taysom Hill (who Stanford
recruited)..."I did not forget about him. Read what I wrote
again:"In 2014, Heaps and Munns will gone, and Hill will be a
Senior."...and Ammon Olsen was even less acclaimed than Kuresa.
He wasn't worth mentioning.btw: Facemasks are not reviewable
plays, and there is no evidence that it even caused the fumble. I'd say the
strip had more to do with it.Case closed.
Sammy G. Sing me more songs bro. 7-6 vs 10-3. Remind me again who was exposed?
Utah State? Really? Keep em coming Y fans.
Let's see, if those 3 losses last year to 'ligit' teams (according to Hedgehog)
what were the wins against? Well, the Utes barely made it by AFA,
SDSU and BYU last year so for fun let's call all the wins 'cupcakes' except for
a couple, your choice, I don't care.So which teams in the PAC 10.2
are legit and which ones are cupcakes?Love your momentum going into
the PAC 10.2 and your tv schedule!This is going to be a fun
season.@Jute19 The word 'exposed' is reserved for teams
that have inflated rankings and fall off cliffs on national TV like yours did
THREE times last year. 7-47, 3-28, and 3-26.That single digit
offense aka SDO... was awesome!
The BYU Salt Lake angle worked pretty well. Good luck to him. He certainly wont
be the last LDS kid to pick Utah. If Wittingham leaves and an non LDS coach
takes over, it could change quick just like it did in basketball.
Re: Naval VetYou forgot about Taysom Hill (who Stanford recruited)
and Ammon Olsen. That's 4 other QBs he'd have to compete with vs just two that
would be graduating for Utah in two seasons. He could easily start at Utah as a
junior. btw, the referees in the SDSU game may have missed calling
the fumble, but they also forgot to call the facemask that nearly ripped JJ
DiLuigi's head off.Case closed.
(continued...)Since Hansen reports he plans on serving a mission, he
wont likely see the field until at least 2014. If he redshirts, then itll be
2015. In 2014, Heaps and Munns will gone, and Hill will be a Senior.
Utahs Tyler Shreve will be a Sr, and, if 6-6, 210-lbs Utah QB recruit Travis
Wilson signs in Feb, hell be a Junior. And thats IF neither Ute QB decides to
redshirt. Hansen will be a year behind the unheralded Kuresa (yawn), and in the
same class as Magnum. As it stands now, if Hansen wanted to play QB, hed be more
likely to see the field while competing against an equally inexperienced Magnum
and unheralded Kuresa than he would have vs. two veteran highly touted Utah QBs
in Shreve and Wilson (or whichever other highly touted QBs that may be on Utah's
roster that would have signed in the 2013 class).Bottom line:
"It's the Pac-12. Its big, it's exciting. I still think BYU is going in
another direction...the Pac-12 was a can't miss experience...".Case closed!
I am seriously challenging any Y fan out there to produce any evidence that the
Y told him he wouldnt play QB, or that the U told him that he would.The DesNews own article Cougars, Utes lead the recruitment for Chase Hansen
suggest otherwise. Hansen was quoted saying, Im very open to playing on defense,
and I have a lot of good experience on that side of the ball, just whatever is
best for me and for the team, Ill do, but quarterback is definitely my first
choice.So I see no bait and switch promises that jealous cougar fans
have been reporting.Heres another interesting quote:Having [Doman] as both my quarterback coach and as the offensive coordinator
there is definitely one of the things I like best about BYU.That
doesnt suggest Doman was recruiting him to play LB.
PSUYB:"You are seriously going to come on here and complain
about replay official blunders?...Utah escaped with a win over that 6 win BYU
team by way of a replay blunder."In the SDSU game, there was
"indisputable evidence" of a fumble. In the Utah game there was not
"indisputable evidence" that there was not a fumble. Big
difference!In the SDSU game, the replay officials were both cougar
alumni. One of whom was even a paid employee of the university. In the Utah
game, there were no Utah alumni among the replay officials, and none who were
paid members of the university. Big difference!In the SDSU game,
the replay officials were suspended by MWC officials for bungling an easy call.
In the Utah game, no suspensions were meted out or warranted. Big
difference!"And your right, I was mistaken in my statement that
22 starters were returning. But so were you."You certainly were
mistaken, but I was not. Lindy's does in fact say that you have 18 returning
starters. If there are 19 returning starters, then Lindy's was mistaken. Not
Given his talents, quite honestly he would be more likely to play QB at Utah
than at BYU and I really think that had a lot to do with his decision to join
the Utes. Sorry Ute fans. I don't think he was jumping at the chance to play at
Utah for a chance to play defense. He wants to try his luck at QB and BYU is
loaded at that position for the forseeable future. I'll be honest,
if he was coming to BYU it would have been as a defensive player. Good luck to
him though at whatever position he plays he seems like a nice kid.
Naval Vet,You are seriously going to come on here and complain about
replay official blunders? Utah escaped with a win over that 6 win
BYU team by way of a replay blunder.And your right, I was mistaken
in my statement that 22 starters were returning. But so were you.According to the official BYU prospectus:"19 freshmen played for
the Cougars at many key positions in 2010. Among 31 offensive and 29 defensive
lettermen returning, the 2011 Cougars return 19 starters (10 on offense, 9 on
defense) and 14 additional players who have starting experience."Hedgehog, "I might add that ND followed the Utah win with a
pounding of USC (in LA) and U of Miami in it's bowl game. All three Utah loses
were to ligit teams."Yeah, the same Notre Dame team that was
destroyed by Navy and Tulsa? Coming into the Utah game, Notre Dame was 4-5. If
that is your definition of "ligit" then you need to get more sleep at
night. And as I said before, BSU lost a conference game to Nevada, only beat on
decent opponent all year (VT). The only legit team Utah lost to was
I hope the best for Mr. Hansen. He will be a great defensive player for the
utes. The Utes might have fed him a lot of bull about him playing QB but anyone
who really knows Norm Chow knows he doesn't believe in RMs playing QB. He is
very open about his belief of RMS not being good QBS. He has never started an
RM QB who ended up being successful and never really given one a fair shot. So
either enjoy your mission or playing. QB Norm won't let you do both. I'm really
surprised that never came out or maybe he's OK with playing defense.
PSUYB:"The 2011 team returns 22 starters."According to my recent issue of Lindy's Sports College Football 2011 Preview,
you have 18 starters returning. You have 18 starters returning to a team that
won only 6 games last year. Even if you counted those 2 replay officials up
inthe booth as "returning starters" -- and admittedly, a case can be
made for that since they did win the game at SDSU for you last year -- that
still only amounts to 20 starters returning that won only 7 games last year.Pardon us Ute fans if we're not overly impressed.
"So if your paying attention Utah is 33-6, lost to AP #2, #6, #9, #11, #12,
and Notre Dame (USA Today/Sagarin #19). For a comparison TCU is 36-3 over the
same period."Uteology,I might add that ND followed
the Utah win with a pounding of USC (in LA) and U of Miami in it's bowl game.
All three Utah loses were to ligit teams.
Swoop13 | 11:59 a.m."Picture yourself as a 4 or 5-Star QB from
SoCal and you've got Norm Chow and Brandon Doman sitting in front of you in your
living room. It's not even a fair comparison."**********I'm glad you feel confident that the tide is turning with this one
recruit who probably will never play QB at Utah or any other university. Sorry
but I don't think Utah will all of a sudden be competing with Oregon and USC for
4 and 5 star recruits just because one local kid thought he'd have a better
chance at getting playing time at Utah vs. BYU.As far as Doman vs.
Chow not being a fair comparison, I agree. Doman is young, enthusiastic,
energetic, passionate and has a great understanding of the game from having
played it in the not-so-distant past. Chow played a great role in BYU's success
for many years but let's face it, his best years are behind him and I'm pretty
sure that most any kid coming out of high school would rather play for somebody
they can relate to like Doman.
Swoop13The last QB BYU lost to Utah was Scott Mitchell back in the
late 80's. BYU is already stacked at QB and, unlike some programs, BYU didn't
try to pull a bait-and-switch, promising Hansen a starting QB position, and then
switching him to defense as soon as he arrived at BYU. Hansen's
first priority was playing QB, which is why he chose Utah, because Utah promised
his a chance to play QB, although that'll never happen.
@PSUYBYour opinion won't fly, the fact according to both national
polls Boise was a #9/#7 team. On the other hand according to USA Today BYU got
thumped by #114 USU.No, what Utah can be proud of is that last year
when we were playing horrible football down the stretch, worst since @UNLV in
2007, they still went 4-3 vs .500 teams. So if your paying
attention Utah is 33-6, lost to AP #2, #6, #9, #11, #12, and Notre Dame (USA
Today/Sagarin #19). For a comparison TCU is 36-3 over the same period.In conclusion, facts show you are wrong and Chase Hanson is correct when he
says, I love the direction the program is headed. I love the fact that Ill have
a chance to play in the Pac-12."
Swoop13 | 12:06 p.m. June 11, 2011ROY, UTIf it was as simple as BYU
telling him "no" in regards to him playing QB, why was Doman his main
recruiter from BYU? Does BYU make it a habit of sedning in their QB Coach/OC to
recruit a player they plan on using at LB?Sounds like excuses to me.
***************I've read this on here about a dozen times so
since so many of you apparently have no idea how recruiting works, let me
explain. Recruiting assignments are made by geography, not by position. Since
Doman became the O.C., his recruiting assignment was changed to Utah so he would
have less travel and more time to focus on his dual role as O.C. and QB coach.
So all of you who have been claiming that he wouldn't have been recruiting
Hansen if BYU wasn't planning on him playing QB, guess what? You're wrong.
KH,A legit top 10 team and in the WAC? See your previous
post suggested that BYU beating WAC teams was not a big deal, because they are
members of the WAC. But wasn't your team destroyed by a member of that
conference? BSU was beat by WAC team Nevada who was beat by Hawaii. BSU
was in a 3 way tie for the WAC Championship. And they embarrassed your Utes,
the WAC's not lookin so bad anymore huh?I agree BSU is a good team,
but they aren't a "legit top-10." They couldn't even win the
"lowly" WAC Championship. So the excuse for getting slaughtered by
them because they were a top 10 team wont fly. And ND is 22-27 over the
past 4 years. And had a 4-5 record when they humiliated Utah. And with
the TCU game, #5 vs. #3 should be a pretty even game right? Not. 47-7, with
TCU coasting the entire second half. I guess you can feel pretty
good about beating a 6-5 All-Freshman BYU team by 1pt in your house though.
"Thats funny, especially when you got humiliated by the one Wac team you
had on your schedule last season. 26-3 sound familiar? "PSUYB,We both know that Boise State was a legit top 10 team last
year. So you're argument is quite lame. Utah was beat by Boise State (top 10),
TCU (Top 5), and Notre Dame. Not too embarrassing. byu fans trying
to talk smack on last season is just funny considering the records of both teams
and the head to head matchup.
If it was as simple as BYU telling him "no" in regards to him playing
QB, why was Doman his main recruiter from BYU? Does BYU make it a habit of
sedning in their QB Coach/OC to recruit a player they plan on using at LB?Sounds like excuses to me.
Hansen chose the Utes, get over it. He was recruited by defensive coaches at
the U and knows he will probably end up on defense. The notion that he chose
Utah over byu because he will play sooner is ridiculous. Utah always has a
strong defense, which Chase made reference to. He likes the Utah program
better, period.bluto, your jealousy continues to entertain me.
"Half filled RES"? When did you last see a game at the U? 20 years
ago? YOu make reference to byu's "national schedule with
storied programs".... San Jose State, Utah State, Central Florida, Idaho,
Idaho State, New Mexico State, Hawaii... that's over 1/2 your schedule and I
don't see any storied programs there. Of the four independent teams
in college football, only one is part of the BCS (Notre Dame) while the other
three are mid-majors (byu, Navy and Army). Independent 1.3?Recruits
have slipped away from both byu and Utah in the past to play in the PAC-10. Now
that Utah is part of the PAC-12, some recruits will favor them over byu because
of the conference. Good luck to both teams in their new directions.
It's going to be HILARIOUS to see BYU fan's excuses as they lose future
recruiting battles, especially for QB's. While Utah may be thin @ QB for now,
the tide is already turning and Chase Hansen is the first sign of that. Picture
yourself as a 4 or 5-Star QB from SoCal and you've got Norm Chow and Brandon
Doman sitting in front of you in your living room. It's not even a fair
comparison. In fact, it won't even be BYU that Utah is competing with for these
types of players with. It will be the Oregon's and USC's of the world.The funny thing is, BYU is still trying to hang their hat on winning in-state
recruiting battles while Utah's main focus is entering a world where they're
going to be fighting for 4 and 5 star recruits out of Cali and Texas against
other schools not named BYU. While Utah will certainly still have interest in
in-state kids, it's very clear that these 2 schools have completely different
futures in regards to the type of athlete they'll each be recruiting.
KH, Jute19"It's easy to win a bunch of games with a WAC
schedule."Thats funny, especially when you got humiliated by
the one Wac team you had on your schedule last season. 26-3 sound familiar?
Those "Girlsy State" boys sure made you look silly. What
must have been embarrassing is a #5 team being humiliated on National TV 3 times
last season. 47-7, 28-3, and 26-3 was it? And then a 1pt tainted victory over
your 6-5 All-Freshman rival. I do acknowledge that BYU got creamed
by Utah State last season. About time, after 17 years of being winless vs. BYU.
But as I said in my previous post, that is far from the trend. 2010 does not
dictate the future of BYU football. Texas also had a down year in 2010,
and they played in the NC the previous year. Here are the facts:In 2010 BYU lost several 3-year record breaking starters ( Hall, Unga, Pitta,
Jorgensen, Tonga, George, ect.)10 returning startersStarted freshman
at QB, RB, TE, WR, and LB. The 2011 team returns 22 starters.The results will be devastating on Sept. 17th
Don't get to excited people! Lets all wait and see what happens after he comes
back from his mission! a lot can happen in 3 years. Nothing is a done deal
until a missionary/player arrives back home.
To BYU fans saying he chose Utah because BYU is stacked at QB. Hansen is going
on a mission for two years. In 3 years from now Utah will have plenty of depth
at QB, so I don't see your reasoning.
I also don't understand BYU fans taking shots at Utah for their future TV
exposure. First of all, while BYU is on ESPN, you'll almost never see them on
ESPN's main station. They will be stashed on ESPN 2,3,4,5 and ESPNU. While these
stations are certainly easy to access, it's not as if BYU is ESPN's lead
product, so let's stop pretending that they are.As for Utah: Yes, tv
games are going to be hard to come by for Utah in 2011, but forgive us Ute fans
if we're not too concerned. With the new ESPN/Fox TV deal going into effect in
2012, Utah's future TV potential is just fine thank you. Not only that, as Utah
starts to earn the status as a solid Pac12 program, we'll get to see games on
ABC. What will BYU fans be saying in the future when Utah is on the ABC regional
telecast each and every week and BYU is still without a conference and playing
their games on ESPN 3?
Someone needs to tell Sammyg that Duckhunter wants his rubber sheet back.
Psuyb. Let me guess you said the same thing last year. Keep em coming. This
years schedule has Utah State.. How'd that go last year?
PSUYBIt's easy to win a bunch of games with a WAC schedule. It
doesn't mean anything though. Congratulations in advance for beating Idaho
State, New Mexico State, and four or five other teams like that. I wouldn't
chalk up a win against Utah State though. Remember what happened last year?
That must have been embarrassing for you guys.
Jute19,There must be something in the water there in poop, Utah if
you think BYU will be going 6-6 next season. I think its funny Ute
fans try and convince everyone that the 7-6 2010 record is somehow a trend at
BYU. With 4 years of double digit wins and 4 consecutive top 25 finishes it is
anything but a trend. 2011 will follow the trend with 10-11 wins.
Only real question I see is Texas. All other games are winable.
The best player on the Lone Peak team was Tallon Shumway by far. I believe he
was just a Soph maybe junior. Thats the player that matters. He could be a Luke
Staley at RB or a Jordan Pendlton at saftey or LB.
I'm not worried, he'll switch to BYU while he's on his mission.
I Still Can't Say It,"This is just proof that the Utes are
becoming the most relevant college sports in Utah. Utah County recruits are
wanting to play in Salt Lake County where the PAC-12 lives."It
is indeed a sad day for Utah football if fans are basing the entire relevance of
their program on signing a 3 star/unranked in-state recruit. But you are
probably right, finally winning a recruiting battle over your rival is the
pinnacle of a very long and disappointing legacy that is Utah football. And it
will undoubtedly launch Utah to a whole new level. You all have a
funny definition of success and relevance. Depending on bigger and better
programs to keep yours afloat is not relevance. Relevance is
standing on your own. Signing an 8yr Independent contract with the single most
powerful entity in Sports. Consistently signing top recruits, finishing in the
top 25, scheduling games with historic programs all over the country. Pay close attention to the 2011 season. Big Brother will show you what
Wow, lots of ridiculous comments on both sides about this kid. Fact is, this
decision changes nothing. The two schools will always split up the local kids
with BYU getting the Lion's share. From last year's Bingham High championship
team, Harvey Langi went to Utah but four other kids from that team are coming to
BYU. Nobody knows if any recruit will ever even see the field much less become
a major contributor until they go out and prove themselves and in the case of a
kid who's planning on a mission, that could be 4 or 5 years from now.I do find it hilarious that numerous Ute supporters were on here last week
saying they didn't want him and he should go to BYU if he wants to serve a
mission and football isn't the #1 priority in his life. Now you're on here
claiming a huge victory for Utah and making ridiculous claims that this will be
some kind of huge turning point in the recruiting battles. I guess you forgot
about the 4 kids BYU signed last week or the 2 QB's a couple of weeks ago.
Going "INDEPENDENT" is not doing BYU any justice.............and
playing the WAC weaklings as well!!!
Hey Bluto and Sammyg I've got three letters for you...BCS!!That's
all that really matters here. The kid wants to taste what it's like to play in
a BCS game and play in a conference that really means something.
He'll change his mind after the mission. 2 years of being a door mat will make
utah much less appealing.
@Mormon UteA Utah fan calling out BYU for "discraceful"
behavior?That is priceless.Like the North end zone at
the Utah/TCU game?Fret not Utes. He'll have 2 years to
see how Utah performs as the Vanderbilt of Pac 10.2.He'll see BYU on
National TV, On the "Big Network", 8-10 times a year, while Utah
flounders on Fox Regional or the Pac 10.2 TV-Land.And he will indeed
come off his mission and go back to the U, as BYU will have long ago moved on,
and then he will realize what might have been?65k fans at LES,
National TV every game, a National schedule with Storied Programs, and now
settling for a half filled RES with admission being a coupon from taco bell, and
perpetual bottomfeeder status.Oh the pain..
I repeat... BIG whoop, Utes get a recruit.You guys need a QB,
deperately as a matter of fact, glad you found one.Which radio
station are you guys on this fall? Your big coming out party to the PAC 10.2 is
somewhat a fizzle and I'm ticked that I won't be able to watch Wynn nearly as
much as I did on the Mtn. last year.Bet several of you wish the Mtn.
was back for this fall. he he!I was almost a Ute fan and now this.
Thank goodness BYU has your back for one game on ESPN this year. I might have
lost interest before 2012.
Howhard S & Doctor Chris Hill obsessed much are we; nice handles evidencing
this obsession. Classic little brother mentality at its finest.
The spin doctors from Utah valley are at it again. Either Hansen didn't choose
the Y because he was recruited not as a qb but as a linebacker or Hansen
"knew" he would never be good enough to be a qb at qbu or after his
mission he will want to go back and play for his faith's school or Utah is so
very thin at qb that he will play immediately! Regardless of what
rational the "doctors" might want to believe, I think for their own
sanity, the athlete himself gives us his reasoning. All the other
"reasons" are just smoke, haze and rationalizations. He picked Utah
because it is a PAC 12 school and because of Coach Chow. End of story. And, oh, by the way, my prediction is that he will go on his mission,
come back play 4 years at Utah on the defensive side of the ball. The young man
is an 4 star athlete according to some rating services. Utah with Coach Whit
has been successful in taking athletes and making them into defensive stars!
With all the QB's BYU has committed already (Mangum from Idaho), this kid would
have never stepped foot on the field for BYU. He would have been a back-up his
entire career as a cougar. Good for him. Utah needs a decent QB, and it sounds
like this kid has got some potential. BYU has plenty of QB's to go
around. Jake heaps (5-star) > chase Hansen (4-star).
Don't you love the gloating by Utah fans and the sour grapes from BYU fans? Now
that BYU and Utah are not in the same conference, it will be easier to cheer for
both of them (most of the time).Wait 2 years while he is on a
mission where zealous BYU fans will be able to convince him to go to the
BYU...and has tied up a scholarship at Utah as young men love to do when they
live in Utah County.
The kid would've been the 3rd best QB in this recruiting class if he went to
BYU. That was a smart move going to a program that's suspect right now at QB and
has paper-thin depth at the position and the current starter gets nicked up more
often than teenagers shaving.Who knows, he might even see the field
his first year.
Wise decision. It's much better to start right away as a freshman than to ride
the pine til your senior year.
It was a smart move on his part. With our lack of depth at QB or on defense he
can come in and compete for a starting role right away. Had he gone to BYU he
wouldn't have seen the field until his junior or senior year (if that). They're
stacked at QB, so right away that was off the table. His only chance would've
been LB and BYU looks to be very deep there for several years as well.Good choice Hansen, we expect to see you on the field as a true freshman this
year, maybe even starting.
Z2010"The BCS is the highest level of college
football."Sorry, my young padawan, but there are good teams and
there are bad teams in every conference, BCS or non-BCS.Hansen's
first choice was to play QB, but BYU told him straight up that BYU was loaded at
QB, so he chose Utah where he was promised he'd at least have a chance to play
QB, though I suspect that Utah will switch him to defense the moment he steps
foot on campus.
Some posts claim, falsely, that Utah "baits and switches" with
positions. That is B.S. Just like others before him, Chase Hansen will play the
position the coaches told him he will be allowed to play, QB.For
those players who decided to take the advice of Utah coaches to play another
position--Paul Soliai, Paul Kruger, Sean Smith all come to mind--I guess all you
have to look at is their big fat NFL paychecks to determine if it worked out
well for them.Yes the kid is connected to BYU. But he is also
connected to Utah. His dad played for Kyle Whittingham's father, and several
Hansen brothers were teammates and friends with the Whittingham brothers at BYU.
This is just proof that the Utes are becoming the most relevant college sports
in Utah. Utah County recruits are wanting to play in Salt Lake County where the
PAC-12 lives.What's more, former BYU guys are professing their
preference for the Utes when it comes to football. See Vai's column about his
chillin' with Ute athletes recently.The future is the Utes!
I'm sure the kid wants an opportunity to play in a BCS bowl. Utah gives him the
best chance to do that. BYU has the worst access to Playing in a BCS bowl than
any other team in the country. They are eligible for a BCS bowl if they finish
in the top 14 of the final standings. Remember, Boise was eligible last year as
well (we all know the love Boise State got last year.....and BYU is no Boise
State). BYU is only guaranteed a BCS bowl if they finish # 1 or 2 in the final
standings. Same deal that Army & Navy got. Utah could lose two games and
still play in the Rose bowl. This kid made the right decision. You can have
all the exposure on ESPN that you want, but it still doesn't change the fact
that you will have a hard time signing 3 and 4 star non LDS recruits to come to
Provo. The Davies incident was not good "exposure" for you guys, and
now your losing Utah Valley recruits to the U.....doesn't look good.
@failstormThis is right out of your post. "Quarterback is my first choice"There you go. BYU told
him no and utah told him yes. That seems to make it pretty clear cut. He
obviously realizes he is a long shot to play qb but he still wants to and the
utes told him he could try. Not really sure why that is an issue for
you, it isn't for me.
Looks like a great athlete and a great kid. Hope he has a ton of success.
The BCS is the highest level of college football. If you are good enough to
receive offers from a BCS school, and want to play at the highest level then
pick the BCS offer. Why settle for less than the best? Great choice by Hansen.
Gotta love the spin on this one that BYU fans are saying they didn't really want
or need him since he wants to play QB. All I know is the kid is a stud athlete
and as such he will find a way to get on the field regardless of what position
he plays.Face it Cougar fans you lost out on a key recruit in your
own backyard. Get used to it!! Blue chip recruits want the exposure of playing
in the PAC 12 and most couldn't care less about your independence and playing in
your conference of irrelevance!!!!
He would have been a back-up anyway at BYU - there are too many other better
quarterbacks on the Cougar roster and the pipeline is full. Nothing lost.
All you BYU fans who think he will change his mind while on his mission, think
again. Coach Wittingham knows how to keep kids interested while there out
serving the Lord. He's proven that many times. As for the few of
you suggesting BYU will actually recruit him while he is serving, you've done a
great job of disgracing yourselves and your school.Congratulations
to Chase and I look forward to seeing you play no matter which side of the ball
you end up on.
Bronco once said BYU will get "all" of the quality in-state recruits.
Boy, how things have changed. Now BYU can't even hold its own in Utah County.
I find it awfully "convenient" that cougar fans all of a sudden know
exactly what positions this young man was recruited for. Especially since the
only reports where U or Y coaches made any such warnings or assurances were
presented on the comment boards on the Trib and DNews, and didn't surface until
AFTER Hansen spurned the Y.Not to mention that Hansen was recruited
Brandon Doman, the former Y QBs coach and current Offensive Coordinator. Or
that he was recruited by Jay Hill, the U's DB/Special Teams coach who had always
been on the Ute's Defensive side of the ball; from his playing days thru his
current occupation on the Utah coaching staff.And I've been
especially amused that some cougar fan, who lives all the way out in Scranton,
PA, was soooo dialed in to Hansen and the rest of the cougar program, that he
would know for sure what influences this 4-star athlete measured in his decision
to Choose The Red.Admit it cougs. His hand wasn't forced. He could
have played at either school, but he preferred the U. And that makes you
insanely bitter and jealous.
Duckhunter; Did you even read the article ? Here let me help;
Quarterback is my first choice, but Utah plays an exciting defense, and Id love
to play defense for them as well, he said. Either way, Ill be part of a program
that is really going in the right direction. Its an exciting time to be at Utah,
and I look forward to being part of that program. I cant wait. You blue
bloods really should hold off on the excuses, you guys may burn them up before
the seasons start. Here are some of my favorites.. " It was a
rebuilding year,the honor code restricts our choices, the refs robbed us
"..( see Bronco @ UCLA ) and on and on and on. Her is the
simple version of the story. He had a choice and decided to play for the
Sorry Cougar fans, it's a new era. The future is the Utes -- in the state, in
the West, and throughout the nation. And yep, the Utes will dominate the
recruiting seen in Utah County too.
I am glad he plays football, if it were basketball he would not be recruited
because of his desire to go on a mission.
Its all about the hope to play QB, if BYU would have recruited him as a QB and
he new that he wasn't behind all the outstanding ones we had and will have in
the future he would have committed to the Y. I wish him all the luck I know this
kid and he is still a great kid even if I don't like his choice.
Whatever makes you feel better Duck. I want the kid to play defense anyway. It
sounds like he doesn't care either, he's just considering the best program.Go Utes!
BYU fans quit trying to spin this by saying he wanted to play qb and knew he
wouldn't at BYU. You have no idea what his thoughts are and you are making
yourselves look like idiots. Bottom line, he chose Utah...period. Wish him
luck and move on. If he's anything like his brothers and uncles you better hope
he does play quarterback.
2 years is a long time. Many things can happen while this youngster is out. I
hope the Utes can keep there eye on him....he may be gone before they know it.
Bluto... do you realize that sammyg is a Y fan, and that his post was a
sarcastic one bashing Utah?Ha ha ha. We've even got Y fans at each
other on this thing. Way to go blutes.
@utahcountyuteIt is simple, he wants to play qb and utah told him
they would let him try. BYU told him that he would not play qb for them but they
wanted him to play defense. We'll see if he does play qb for utah but I doubt it
as his arm is not D1 quality. He is definately a D1 quality athlete though. This
doesn't surprise me as BYU has been telling him all along that he would not play
qb for them. He had to go to the place that promised him the opportunity even if
it is a long shot.
This kid's dad played for byU and is going to go on a mission and yet will
choose the U over the y? Inconceivable! Ducky? Where are
you Ducky? I think I have read your opinion about a million times about all
those kids that are good LDS kids that dream of going to byU. The kid is not
from the WVC either, but your own neighborhood! lolInconceivable!
@big soccer"For the better part of these comments there wasn't
any back biting or bad talk, but then Duckhunter as usual and Chris B have to
start writing stupid thin"I haven't even made a comment on this
article until this one. Who is the one writing stupid things?
@NavalVetAfter you are finished with your pitch on how the U's games
on Versus and FSN(Fox Regional)are National Games, equivalent to ESPN, maybe you
can follow that up with the U's preparations being taken to prepare for
residency in a neighborhood consisting of Iowa State, Kansas State, Vanderbilt,
Northwestern, Baylor, Washington State, Rutgers, Wake Forrest etc.And then a maybe power point presentation on why the Networks would have any
more interest in televising No-Brand-Utah games next year, than they do this
year?This should be fun. Next, will you market our Arkansas Ski
@sammygBig whoop you got a recruit!check him out on
kutv, kjzz or fox regional.Or next year, pac 10.2 Network, not on
Basic Tier and a premium channel to boot, ala the Big Ten Network.And sadly, no ESPN.Obscurity here U come.
Naval Vet:Yerffoegn is probably Ajarizona over on the Trib. I can't understand how BYU fans fail to see that EVERY game for Utah
will be televised next year. But congrats BYU! You already have more TV
appearances this year than you had wins last year.
With BYU around 12 deep at qtrback I'd say his chances of starting weren't very
good unless he wanted to play linbacker or cornerback...Obviously he chose Utah
where there isn't such stiff competition so I wish him luck in his career. He's
definitely a good player so he should do well for the Utes down the road.
Yerffoegn:"The PAC12 networks have spoken, and they couldn't
care less about UTe football. This year or next. The schedule has been reviewed
and the Ute's were given two national slots on two obsure networks."Next year's schedule hasn't been put set up yet, so you can't speak
intelligently beyond the 2011 season. As for 2011, Utah has been
given 3 games; not 2. And there is nothing obscure about ESPN 2, FSN, or Vs.
At least not back here in Philadelphia. With 22 addi'l games yet
unscheduled for the 2011 season, Utah still has more televised games booked than
Washington, OSU, and Wash. St., equal the number of games as Cal and ASU, and
one fewer game than Stanford, Arizona, UCLA, and Colorado. So apart from USC
and Oregon, we're still pretty much right on par with our new conference
brethren.For 2012, Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott had projected
every team would have all of their games televised on ESPN [and associated
networks], FSN [and associated networks], and the to-be-completed Pac-12
Network. Every game.
@bigutefan | 6:06 p.m. June 10, 2011 "...I just hope Kyle keeps an
eye on this one, you know who likes to contact players on their missions, you
did choose the right Chase! ..."better have him cross all T's,
dot all I and sign/initial on all X so there is no loop holes left for any
sneaking coaches...Go Utes!!!The Sky is the limit!!!
I posted on this earlier today and left this report as a 'been here read that
story' so to speak.Well I am online again, and saw the Chase
headline flash as a big story from my homepage.Just for curiosity, I
checked it out to see if it was the same piece or some new news.It
blows me away that there are over 100 comments and six pages of them at that.
Given that this is a new story, I can only imagine how many comments will be
posted by bedtime.Look, Chase Hansen is a good signing for my Utes.
However, slow down y'all. No matter how many stars somebody has, it may end up a
boo raw raw later on. I hope Utah is a great fit for Chase and Chase for the
Utes, but right now it's just another signing of a guy with flare and a mission
to serve yet.
Welcome to the PAC-12, Chase! It will be great to see you playing the teams out
here in So. Cal. Utah has a great program, and will definitely be in the hunt
for a PAC-12 title and trip to the Rose Bowl. Good luck!
Don't kid yourself UTE fans, BYU does not got out an recruit others
players...besides, the same thing has happened to BYU, many times
over...case-in-point, look no further than Jake Murphy...I would'nt go out and
say that Kyle went out and undermined BYU for Jake, Jake made his own
decision...just like this Utah B-ball recruit that just switched to BYU.The next question, is why would BYU waste any time going after him, if
they already lost him? Now, if he changes his mind, and decides to come back to
LB heaven at BYU, then we'll be glad to have him...no matter, many more like him
are out there to be found. Good luck Utes, hopefully in makes a great QB for
you, cuse the cupboard is bare on the hill currently!
I know him and his family. He would never be a QB at BYU and that is his first
choice. If he does go on a mission he'll end up at BYU anyway
because his priorities will change.
"Bottom line is this kid wants to play QB at the College level. And that
was never going to happen at BYU with already 2 commitments from the 2012
class."PZUBY,Bottom line is Hansen's chances of
playing QB at Thee University of Utah are slim. What made the decision easy for
him? The names Christopher, Blechen and Kruger. All solid High School QB's who
became big time players at Wr, DE, LB at the U.bYu has a stable of
about 12 QB's who will do nothing more than hold a clip board.Pretty
BYU will probably recruit him while he's on his mission....
I just hope Kyle keeps an eye on this one, you know who likes to contact players
on their missions, you did choose the right Chase!
I speak the truth, I have had friends get told they were going to play a certain
position and the next thing they knew they were at home while the rest of us
Here, I'll give you Ute fans a little of what you're expecting to read...BIG whoop, you got a recruit!By Sept 17 at halftime you'll
be wishing this kid was on the bench. Your current batch of backup QBs has not
warranted much in the positive comment category.I'm happy for Hansen
if he thinks his dream is to be a Ute QB. Good luck, etc.
Congrats Chase, good choice....BYU is loaded at QB for the near future and
you'll have a better chance to play QB at Utah. You're a great athlete and look
forward to watching your senior season at Lone Peak.
Patriot I have a different view. The UTes will be bottom feeders for a very
long time. LDS players out of state will have no idea Utah is even playing,
BYU games will be in just about every LDS home accross the country.Families of
LDS players want a lifestyle for their son fitting of the life in their own
homes. Not Frat parties and keggers. Take that to the bank.
Hondo, You also can't think independently. A transparent Ute shill as well.
Did I say the season had started, games were broadcast? 8 games to broadcast on
ESPN. That is early contract success. You and others proudly crowed when the
contract was signed, "a few games will be broadcast on the lesser ESPN
channels". Yes I proudly beat my chest, you were wrong. Future recruiting
success based on all this national exposure will be yet determined. However,
what is not open for question is that any out of state Ute fan looking to view a
Ute game will be huddled around internet radio. Local Ute fans can tune to Kjzz
Welcome kid to the Ute Nation!@BaneOfHedgehog - "ok, I'll bite.
The uTes are pretty much in the same place as they were before. Generally,
picking up what BYU doesn't get."According to you yes,
according to Rivals no:20111. Ryker Mathews 4-star OL
(BYU)2. Harvey Langi 4-star RB (Utah)3. Isaac Asiata OL 3-star
(Utah)4. Nate Fakahafua 3-star WR (Utah)5. Travis Still 3-star WR
(Utah)20101. Bronson Kaufusi 4-star DE (BYU)2. Ricky
Heimuli 4-star DT (Oregon)3. Joe Kruger DE 3-star (Utah)4.
Algrenon Brown 3-star RB (BYU)5. Chris Badger 3-star DB (Notre Dame)20091. Xavier Sua Filo 4-star OL (UCLA)2. John Martinez
4-star OL (USC)3. Criag Bills 4-star DB (BYU)4. Latu Heimuli
4-star DT (Utah)5. Richard Wilson 3-star TE (BYU)Again, one
data point in 2011 is not a trend. If Utah continues to take 3-4 top 5 Utah
players over the next few years then yes. Notice how PAC-10 usually picked off
one or two player each year.
Nice thing also to know as an LDS kid going to Utah is that many of the church's
presidents are and were alumni of Utah. Not a single one was a y graduate. So,
y apologists, is it bad for an LDS player to choose the U when the profits do
the same thing?Hmmm. How do you spin that to make yourself feel
Chase Hansen could be a good addition to my Utes down the road. Chase will serve
his mission and could still change his mind over the next few years.Either way, whatever he eventually chooses, Chase seems to be well rounded and
grounded young man. If he keeps growing mentally, spiritually, and physically,
Chase has a good chance for success on the gridiron (wherever that may be). That
said, I hope it is in crimson.
Priest801 are you serious? Friends and family? First of all two local teams
will be on the home schedule and Central Florida. The rest is thin, real thin.
Friends and family want their sons, friends, brothers, to play on the national
stage. They have been on the local stage(Highschool) alread. It is time for
the Nation to see what they can do. It won't happen this year at the U.
Versus, FSN? what a joke.
Hey quackhunter I have heard from Ute fans they have spoken. All insults.
Thats what happens when they have nothing more to say. The Hansen kid was a
good catch. No question about it. You say I can't read because of the PAC 12
contract starts next year. Different contract same networks. The PAC12
networks have spoken, and they couldn't care less about UTe football. This year
or next. The schedule has been reviewed and the Ute's were given two national
slots on two obsure networks. Yes I can read. Can you?
Rockaria: "He will never play at Utah. Bronco will be calling him everyday
he is on his mission."Are you saying that Bronco will recruit a
player on his mission? I thought that was against the rules, or at least
against the moral rules of conduct! Does that really matter any more in happy
valley?Go Utes! Go Crimson!
He needs to go where he fits the life style he wants. BYU is not easy for some
and very easy for those who want to live that way. He made a good decision where
he will be happy.
bigsoccer | 4:29 p.m. June 10, 2011 Syracuse, UT I don't think
Duckhunter and Chris B are the ones writing stupid things. You may want to re
read your post.
Bottom line is this kid wants to play QB at the College level. And that was
never going to happen at BYU with already 2 commitments from the 2012 class.
He is a great athlete and football player from what I've seen, but
not the gunslinger pocket QB that fits in the BYU system. He would not have
started QB at BYU and I am sure he and everyone else knew that. That being said I hope he has a great career playing whatever position he ends
Wow. Congrats to Utah coaches who recruit (and play by the rules) fair and
square to get this great kid --without any backdoor/loophole sneaking.Can't wait to see Norm Chow's offense this fall.
Great recruiting job by the Utes. Chase is going to be a great player in about 5
years from now. Serve the mission and stay true to your commitment to the U
regardless of how they are doing in the Left Coast league of major cheaters (see
where USC lost the BCS title in 2004 due to Bush). I hope you guys clean up the
league and win a few titles and a Rose Bowl. As a Cougar fan I'll be watching
how you do. Go luck Chase.
No surprise here. Expect the U to win the recruit battle nearly every time over
the Y for blue-chip LDS athletes going forward. It's all about playing in the
PAC12 and the Y can't offer anything close. The nice thing about playing for the
U is Coach Whit is LDS and accommodates all those who want to play and serve
missions. The Y is on the decline unless they can jump to the BIG 12 with Texas
and OU some time soon. The U - I think - will rise to the upper half of the PAC
12 which is great news for the state of Utah and for Utah high school grads.
Nick pick up, Utah. I've watched Hansen play at LP the last year and his legs
are definitely his best asset...I could see him turn into a great free safety at
CougFaninTX: "The U comments towards recruits who chose Y over U border on
slander." whoisjohngalt: "Poor kid got baited by chow."
"Sad to see him get lied to."Uh ... seems like it is the
other way around Coug Fan! Go Utes!! Onward and Upward!!
re: jazzbball | 4:08 p.m. June 10, 2011 Or Hansen will become a LB
an inflict pain on Hoyt, Magnum, AND Kuresa.Case in point, Paul
Kruger was HS QB, a DE @ the U, and now an OLB in the NFL.
He will never play at Utah. Bronco will be calling him everyday he is on his
Wow... if the kid had committed to BYU, they would totally have had an in your
face attitude to Utah. Kid could end up at like 6'4" 210lbs. playing QB,
and he ran for 1,000 yards last year. If he becomes a better passer he could be
amazing! Even if he plays Linebacker, still sounds like a stud. Comes from a
good family too.But no... BYU doesn't want that at all. Not now
that he committed somewhere else at least.
Yerffoegn: Very funny stuff! Do you do standup?Go Utes! Onward and
Upward!Oh - and go Santa Clara!
Yerfff,"I know it has been difficult for Ute fans with the
success of the ESPN contract already."What are you talking
about? No games under this contract have been broadcast. What success has
there been other than yners beating their chests over it? Your alleged
"success" with the ESPN contract was not enough to get this kid to
become a yner. Soon enough, other top in-state talent will commit to Utah and
you'll be left UNWANTED, UNINVITED and IRRELEVANT. LOL!
Pretty amazing how much excitement there is in ute nation because they beat out
BYU for a recruit. This is actually very funny. The little brothers are
certainly gloating over this one.
For the better part of these comments there wasn't any back biting or bad talk,
but then Duckhunter as usual and Chris B have to start writing stupid things,
obviously the kid wanted to go to lesser program up north, he won't play
quarterback like he wanted, and we will all wonder what happened to that Hansen
Vegas Ute, That is your only hope. Hope and pray for BYU Losses. Otherwise,
you will be left in the dust. The nation has spoken. THey want BYU football.
It is up to BYU now to deliver. If they do, Katie bar the door. I believe the
Ute's will be bottom feeders. The team was decimated with the loss of players
on a team already beaten to a pulp the last 4 games of the season. A QB that
would be third string on BYU's squad. I don't see the Ute's as even bowl
eligible. I really don't
And the rich get richer!! Welcome to the Utes and the Conference of Champions
Yerffoegn: "Texas, TCU, Ole Miss"What about the home
schedule?? Local kids will start to favor Utah because it's exciting for their
families and friends to come watch them play against great teams in MEANINGFUL
I know it has been difficult for Ute fans with the success of the ESPN contract
already. Believe me, two of years of PAC12 twelve bottom feeding and he will
change his mind. LOL, It has happened a few times already.....
Poor kid got baited by chow. Chow told him he'd play QB. He will be switched to
LB where he belongs. At least BYU told him the truth. He is an average QB. but
will be a great LB. Fast, insticts. Sad to see him get lied to.
Come on . . . BYU fans are much more supportive towards Chase and his decision
to attend Utah, than U fans are towards recruits who choose BYU. The U comments
towards recruits who chose Y over U border on slander.I wish Chase
all the best, except for one game each year. He's a great athlete and a great
pick up for U.
logicalfallacy: "He is completely free to be recruited again after his
mission with no penalty in switching. I don't know if BYU would want him if he
wanted to switch but it should make Utah worried."Too funny.
Just give me a list of Ute RMs (yes y apologists - Utah has MANY, MANY RMs in
their programs, especially football) that have transferred to y for football
after their missions? I mean besides the occasional walk-on at Utah that gets
offered a scholarship to y.What's that? No list? Thought so.Besides, y's only three QBs worth mentioning (McMahon, Young &
Detmer) NEVER went on missions. whY go to y if you want to play QB and go on a
mission? Doesn't seem to work!Go Utes! Go PAC 12!
Have fun at the U
Welcome to The U, Chase! Watching you compete in the Pac 12 will be very cool.
When BYU tries to re-recruit you while you are on your mission,
explain to them that your mission work is more important than football, and
you'd appreciate it if they respect that and to not interrupt your important
mission work. Football is fifth.
lol...ute fans are funny.BYU has Hoyt, Magnum, AND Kuresa in the
wings waiting to play QB.Football-wise, (Meaning actual opportunity
at playing time) he's right. But he'll lose year after year to BYU.
Don't see a comment here concerning Coach Mendenhall's statements that he would
never again lose a recruiting battle with University of Utah, regardless of
Utah's invitation to the PAC 12. Can someone enlighten us on this point?Seems like the last few times it has happened there has been a somewhat
reasonable explanation: "we didn't really want him anyway" or "we
never actually offered him a scholarship" or whatever.It is
hard to know what the explanation would be this time. What did I miss?
I'm a huge BYU fan but just want to say congrats to the UTES on this pick up.
This kid is the real deal. Hope everything works out for him!
RE:..."It must be simply soul crushing to the gang down
South." - if we were lacking a 5-7 year pipeline of outstanding
quarterback candidates, I'd be a bit concerned. Given who've we've already got
slated and quarterback (and virtually every other position) this is unavoidable.
Best of luck to Chase as a Ute. We have plenty of great quarterbacks ready to
go for years to come."Personally I felt Hansen was a shoe it at
bYu... now you got to wonder if Utah is the first choice of every instate Utah
offer." - ok, I'll bite. The uTes are pretty much in the same
place as they were before. Generally, picking up what BYU doesn't get."History may show that this as the 'watershed" event that offically
points to the "changing of the guard" with instate LDS
athletes."- oh puh-leeze... You were the same poster who for weeks
and weeks, post after post kept going on and on about how LDS athletes and
return missionaries in general were entirely undesirable by uTa (I'm using your
pattern of name display, btw). Hypocrisy/double-speak much?
Yerffoegn: "Texas, TCU, Ole Miss, the Utes, Central Florida"Uh .... big loss, big loss, loss, big loss, tie. Give that a couple of years
and we'll see where the recruits go - contract or no!!Go Utes! The
future is CRIMSON! Get Used to it
Honestly, I don't think the Pac-12 had much to do with it. Ute players are
always gonna say "I love the Pac-12" and Cougars are always gonna say
"I'm so excited about independence" - that's always the way it is. I
think Hansen chose the U because he wants to play quarterback and BYU is already
stacked at that position. Utah will give him a shot at QB, so that's where he's
Wait - which is it? Sunday school-going boys can't possibly be good athletes,
according to the Ute pundits here? Seriously - which is it? Is
this pick-up for the Utes a real steal even though he's going on a mission and
is clearly a Sunday-school choir boy? Oh snap!! Christina has a big big
problem here now. So answer the question? Is this a non-event for
the Utes because he's gonna be an RM. Unavoidable hypocrisy, white courtesy
Yeffrghiuui,Either you can't read, choose not to read, or don't
understand. Utah does not join the PAC-12 TV contract until next year (you
should have a better understanding of that since there are 2 PAC-12 teams in
AZ). This year (nad Utah knew it when they signed to join the PAC-12), Utah
will not be on TV as much as I would like, but I am willing to sacrifice some TV
coverage in the short run if it means that we get players like Hansen in the
years to come.Win for Utah and catalyst for other top in-state
recruits to pick Utah!
Blue Saint: "Sorry Utes.....but nothing is official with LDS recruits until
they return from their mission. The pull of BYU is very powerful! Just
saying."Yeah - just ask Jake Murphy!!Go Utes! The
future is bright, the future IS crimson! Chase knows it, so get Used to it!!
Cork,Typical BYU spin when they do notland a top notch recruit. Are
you related to Bronco? Yau are saying the same spin crap that he says. We do not
recruit the player, the player recruits the school, and is he does not recruit
us, then we dont lose out on any recruits that come our way. Blah, Blah, Blah.
All of you Byu fans would be gloating on this board had he chose the Y over the
Utes. Saying that Independence is better than the Pac 10.2 or whatever you
kitties call it. Byu is stacked at QB for a little while, but this kid will not
even be in the program for at least 3 years. Anything can and will happen by
then, and Jake Heaps will be gone. As it stands today, he is a huge get for the
Utes, and the Y would have been lucky and happy to get him, not matter how Cork
or the Y coaches spin it.
Whatever his reasons for choosing whichever school, I wish him success on the
field, in the classroom, and happiness in his life.
Utah man honestly? Hawaii, Utah State, what about the other 6 to 8 games. Did
you conviently forget to mention Texas, TCU, Ole Miss, the Utes, Central
Florida. Are you and independent thinker or an transparent Ute shill? Give
this ESPN contract a couple of years and a couple of more years of the Utes on
verses and fsn, We will see where the LDS kids go.
Ragnar Danneskjold:"It seems like there was a recent article
that talked about the opposite though. His head recruiter at Utah was Sitake,
and at BYU it was Doman if I remember correctly."According to
his profile on Rivals, he was recruited by fmr-cougar QB coach/now Offensive
Coordinator Brandon Doman, and Utah DB/Special Teams coach Jay Hill.So, yeah, it's interesting to see how many cougar fans have been claiming he
was recruited to play O at the U, and D at the Y. It certainly does look to be
the other way around to me as well.
I thought BYU owned in state and was the best recruiters in the country? funny
how everyone gets on and trashes Utah when a kid picks byu but when a kid picks
utah over byu few people get on and compare. now who are the classy ones now? I
respect kids who do what they want to do, and I don't see it as a competition so
much as a just a different fit for different kids. It's just funny how much byu
fans relish when a player is committed as a 16 year old and they act like
they're a big deal. anyway, good for him. it might not even pan out. let's cheer
for our real team and not the kids who give an oral that they will play 5 years
from now. really guys you know?!
So basically this means nothing if he is leaving for two years on a mission out
of High School. He is completely free to be recruited again after his mission
with no penalty in switching. I don't know if BYU would want him if he wanted to
switch but it should make Utah worried. They've been owned by BYU for at least
the last half a century.
Ya hedgehog. Right. If this kid was a receiver, runningback or an o lineman I
would be crying in your beer. The kid wants to play QB, Ain't gonna happen at
Utes got a great one. No way to spin this BYU got out done hard. He's a solid
4 star athlete.
"Reconsider your decision after your mission and best of luck until
then."Alterego,Thanks for the reminder, Jake Murphy
did and the rest is history.
@ PP | 2:55 p.m. June 10, 2011 Eagle Mountain, UT Classy
Memo to byu fans: Why don't you all just accept reality and come to grips with
the fact that kids want to play in the Pac-12. You can tout your ESPN contract
but who is really going to watch your games vs. Logan State and Hawai'i? Yes,
the games will be available, but Utah offers both stiff competition in the
Pac-12 and television partners in ESPN and FOX. Looks like Bronco's statement of
"We will never lose out on the best local recruits" continues to blow
up in his face. The Utes are now gaining traction in Utah Co., which has long
been byu's most fertile recruiting territory.
seer,Kinda funny that you mention going on a mission may persuade a
recurit to go the Church's "flagship school, I seem to remember a certain
Jake Murphy that did just the opposite. Nice try though.
He probably knows that he could never play QB at BYU. He can make any decision
he wants, but with the added maturity he'll get as a missionary he will
hopefully come to his senses. I'm sure his family is disappointed.
Per rivals: "It's the pac-12. Its big, it's exciting. I still
think BYU is going in another direction of their own which is awesome, but I
felt like the Pac-12 was a cant miss experience and an opportunity with other
aspects about Utah that I thought would be perfect."It must be
simply soul crushing to the gang down South. Personally I felt
Hansen was a shoe it at bYu... now you got to wonder if Utah is the first choice
of every instate Utah offer.History may show that this as the
'watershed" event that offically points to the "changing of the
guard" with instate LDS athletes.
Listen BY fans get a life! Cork you talk tough on a comment board about a 17
year old. The thing is that 17 year could drop a shoulder on you and lay you
Reconsider your decision after your mission and best of luck until then.
"I just really felt strongly that Utah was the best place for me and my
goals."Haha... It's called: Utah has such a void at QB he will
get instant playing time, vs. at BYU he was recruited for defense. Of course,
as usual Utah fans think they just got the holy grail of QB recruits - even
though they were bad mouthing him a few days ago.
Good choice for Chase. He's got to go where he feels comfortable and Utah is
the place.@ wedgie, weren't you saying a few weeks ago how you
didn't want this kid and that the U should be chasing after "elite"
athletes?@ sissy bee, weren't you saying a few weeks ago how the
utes couldn't win with sunday school boys (i.e., returned missionaries) whose
highest priorities are not football-related?Eagerly awaiting the
spin on this.
Hope this kid matures on his mission. He left Lone Peak after a
shouting/cursing match with his then coach - believing he was in charge of the
team and could do what he wanted. He switched to rival American Fork, but
eventually left because he didn't like the new, incoming coach's system (didn't
want to get hit so much). He's back at Lone Peak on the varsity team. Too bad
the high school system doesn't penalize eligibility the way the NCAA does.
Aw gee...I guess I'm going to be a Ute fan now...not!
Congrats Chase, this is a good get for the U. I don't blame him at all going to
Utah where it will be really easy to step in and play QB right off the bat. Even
if he didn't go on a mission he would have beat out Wynnie! Hopefully Utah
starts recruiting more QB's from what I saw at the spring game, you will need
it. Good luck to you Mr. Hansen!
Welcome to the Ute family Chase. You made the right decision!!Go
Utes! Go Crimson!
Sorry Utes.....but nothing is official with LDS recruits until they return from
their mission. The pull of BYU is very powerful! Just saying.
nothing ever changes. Utah beats BYU out for a recruit and the response is
predictable: "we didn't want him anyway." Come on cougar fans. Just
stop with teh sour grapes. Head on back to the Harmon article where he will
make you feel better about life.
I remember when BYU was second to none 25 years ago. Not any more. Both
programs are solid and are top 25 teams in the country. Utah State is not far
behind thanks to Gary Andersen and their staff. Nice this kids has options the
only difference is that his family has to drive 20 minutes further to watch him
play USC, Washington, Oregon, etc. Oh Well. Good Luck
hedgehog | 7:52 a.m. May 26, 2011Ann Arbor, MIThere are 100's of
Hansen type players in Cali. Guess what, all of them are willing to committ to
football out of the gate ( not 3 years later).Again, I'm all for
fullfilling a mission but if a kid must do it before or during college....go to
A really high quality kid and a great "get" for the Utes. I predict
that if Chase goes on his mission, there will be a strong "pull" to
transfer to BYU. It is hard to devote your entire life for two years and then
not "think" about going to your faith's flagship school. It is just
the nature of a mission. Besides, you meet many more missionaries that are
bound for BYU. Spiritual connections are made and lifelong relationships
cultivated. As a person, Chase will change on his mission. He will
become more humble, and the rough edges will be buffed away. Coming home, he
will again need to make a choice on which school to attend. I feel confident
that the lure of BYU in addition to his family ties will offer Chase another
choice in the near future.Good luck to you Chase wherever you serve
Hansen is a great pick up for the Utes. I'm disappointed that he didn't choose
to come to the Y but if he feels he has a better choice at the U - then I'm glad
he'll be going there.Good luck kid!
Congrats Utes on a good pickup.
Re: YouAreKiddingYou may be right. It seems like there was a recent
article that talked about the opposite though. His head recruiter at Utah was
Sitake, and at BYU it was Doman if I remember correctly. I commented in
that article that I hope what you described wouldn't happen. Hopefully he knows
that he could very well be on the D. He sounds open to it, but describes Chow
being a big part of his excitement over Utah. That being said,
Hansen seems to be doing this right. He is saying great things about BYU even in
choosing Utah. Seems like a good person. He seems to have a good frame for
either position, but I will hold off getting too excited. He won't play for
another 3 years after all. Good luck to him on his mission, and good
choice to go with the Utes.
Utah's recruiting of this kid isn't over yet, BYU is going to have 2 years to
try and recruit him while he's on his mission. Utah better stay in touch.
If I remember correctly, all the Utah fans were saying that this kid wasn't
worth a scholarship to a Pac-12 team. If this kid makes one mistake on the field
the entire fan base will go back to saying how he wasn't good enough to play in
the Pac-12. It is a good move on his part, BYU looks to be stacked at QB in the
next coming years, ans that is the position he wants to play.
This in-state recruiting coup by Utah is clearly a result of league realignment
this past year, and why BYU fans should be concerned about their future. While
it should be pointed out that the future of BYU as an independent with a washed
out WAC/Sun-Belt set of opponents (particularly from mid-October on) isnt set in
stone, Utah has made the jump successfully, and for the time being BYU has
failed, and even in pro-BYU Utah Valley located homes of perspective student
athletes the advantage certainly is in Utahs hands, and one that. Until a
Big-12 invitation comes calling for BYU where Bronco can tell recruits that they
will regularly play a Texas or Oklahoma every year, any credible high star rated
in-state recruit would not be wise to pass over Utah in favor of BYU. Long term
independence in football WILL NOT work for BYU and you can assume that the BYU
administration and trustees are looking at being a part of any future Big-12
move back to 12.
Welcome to the Utes, Chase!We're excited to have you as a part of
the team and think you made a good decision! This kid is a 4-star recruit on
Rivals (top 250) and 3-star on ESPN. Being a part of the PAC-12 is paying off,
literally and figuratively.Weren't Yners guaranteeing this guy was
going to be a kewg just a few weeks ago? LOL!
Does BYU really need another QB recruit?
Welcome to the Conference of Champions Chase!
Obviously going to the PAC 12 made lots of difference in recruiting this young
man...so did hiring Coach Chow...able to overcome all those family influences
to stay in Utah Valley! Welcome to the big time Mr.
Hansen...welcome to the PAC 12...welcome to the Utah Family...your are
officially a Utah Man, Sir!
Good catch for the Utes! I think He knows BYU has an overload at QB and
linebacker. Smart move on his part. Good luck to you!
Congratulations to the young man. You'll always lose some players you expect to
sign and sign some players you didn't think you would.Hope he has a
standout career for the Utes. And though I wish BYU had gotten him, it's common
knowledge that the Cougars are well-stocked at both QB and LB for the next
several years. If you have to lose someone, let it be a kid whose position is
not hurting.But--and I say this only a little tongue-in-cheek--what
if he goes on his mission, and Utah struggles in the PAC-12 and BYU continues to
have 10-win seasons. Hmmm ........
Wow! almost 30 minutes and not a single gloating troll. I am sure it won't be
long.Good luck at Utah Mr. Hansen
Great to have you as in a Utah uniform ! Welcome aboard, good luck on your
mission, come back eager to play. It's good to be a Ute !
All rivalry crud out of the way, it's nice to see us win an in-state kid like
this - especially with the kid's family ties to the TDS. Ooops, did I just throw
in the rivalry crud? My bad.
Way to go Utah coaching staff! A great player and a higher character individual.
I look forward to seeing you play in a few years.
Congrats Chase, I am excited for you! Ute fans and I think the state of Utah
will be excited to watch you play.
I love the fact that Ill have a chance to play in the Pac-12. I love the
coaches, and I know Ill get a good education there, and I just really felt
strongly that Utah was the best place for me and my goals. My number one goal is
to play quarterback and BYU is stacked for years to come in that position.
However, I could probably start at Utah this year if I were eligible so I know
I'll have a great chance there when I return from my mission.Can't
argue with that. Utah certainly needs him more than BYU. Good luck to the kid.
Unlike some are going to be wont to say, this wasn't about BYU v. Utah. This was
about a kid that wanted to play QB first and LB second. BYU offered him as a
LB/S and Utah offered him as a QB/LB.Sadly, this kid will make it
into camp and...poof...he'll be switched to the defensive side of the ball
before he knows what hit him. Position bait and switch is what Utah coaches are
He has Uncles who have played at both BYU and UTAH.He has looked at
both programs from all angles.He could still change his mind while
on his mission.If he stays with his commitment, he could end up as a
possible "game changer" in the recruiting "wars" between the
two schools.Whether it's BYU or UTAH, he will be a game changer on
the field as well.
Welcome Chase! The U is excited to have you! Good luck on your Sr season.
Best of luck to you. Having not chosen BYU, I am glad you're not coming because
we do much better with those who really appreciate what BYU has to offer over
other schools. If you can't see that, you are better off somewhere else. It's
really hard to get lathered up over a kid not choosing BYU anymore. Not a
matter of sour grapes; it's no more than a "who cares" to me. I will
be thrilled for those who choose to come and take no interest in those who do
Best of luck to Chase! Hope it works out.
From what I have read this kid is a great all around player and quality
individual, I wish him the very best. Very cool that the Utes landed him over
some good teams. I Can't wait to hear the BYU spin on this one.
"Non-AQ" bites again
wow awesome snatch! great to have him on board!