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Published: Tuesday, June 7 2011 2:30 p.m. MDT

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We the People
Sandy, UT

From the facts presented here, I believe that this man's citation is completely bogus.

Danish American
Payson, UT

You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure in everything and outcomes are nothing. Thomas Sowell

This applies to both government and business.

man of few words
Salt Lake City, UT

Pennies are considered Legal Tender, so what's the problem?!

RR_Xing
San Diego, CA

Next time, don't dump out the pennies.

Hunt
Spanish Fork, UT

I've had my fair share of issues with Doctors offices who swear up and down that with my insurance that the copay would be the only thing I owe only to have them call me later telling me I owed much more.
I chalk this up to them using antiquated accounting systems and staff that think they know what they are talking about.

John Harrison
Sandy, UT

138 lbs of pennies is $250 worth of pennies. Was he paying $25 or $250? The article is less than clear.

In any case, if he had already paid he should have a receipt or credit card statement to prove that he did so. No reason for this to escalate to dumping a mess of pennies on somebody's desk.

Bompar
Provo, Utah

I'm with the penny guy; if the situation is accurately reported, it smacks of free speech. What a teaching moment should the clinic and local officials need to defend their actions in court. Go Penny Man! You might well get every penny back.

beetdiggingcougar
Provo, UT

It'd be nice if the doctor's name was printed. It wouldn't be the first time a doctor's office made a mistake. Sounds like that clerk was on a power trip.

TCnewsie
Tooele, UT

Wow, the penny guy really showed them. Not only did he make himself look like a child to the media and the doctor's office but now he has another fine to pay. Dumping them out is where he went wrong, he should of just given them a big jar but the little guy had to prove his little point.

boatersteve
Fruit Heights, Utah

Having dealt the arrogance of some doctor's office I can understand the frustration. Truly sad part the Vernal police having nothing better to do than investigate the "penny caper". This kind of activity only brings disrepute on the police.

MOS was 71331
PEYTON, CO

Is it illegal in Utah to become angry when you believe you're being unfairly billed by a business? From the description of the incident, an irate customer paid a bill in pennies which he threw on the floor. Other than raising his voice and throwing the pennies, he seems to have done nothing to threaten anyone. The employee who called the police acted ridiculously, and the responding police officers who arrested the customer should be reprimanded. The officers' proper response would have been to tell the clerk who called that they have no jurisdiction to become involved in civil matters. The officers might also have added, "Customers sometimes get angry. Deal with it."

Whiteshoes
Hurricane, UT

I have issues with paying the bill in pennies. Have you ever worked a counter before and had to count that kind of change? Think about the time involved. The sole purpose for dumping the pennies was to cause havoc at the office. His method penalized the secretary who is likely unaware of every individual bill. Think about it--that secretary would have had to count the pennies...lots of wasted time.

Sure, pennies are legitimate currency. However, any responsible citizen would not have acted that way. His point could have been made with rolls of pennies. I expect adults to act like adults (not spoiled children). The citation is well deserved. Be accountable for your actions.

Zona Zone
Mesa, AZ

This has to be a protected act under the First Amendment. Clearly, he chose to pay by a legal means. It may not have been an ordinary method, but it was legal, and the reason for choosing so was clearly free speech. No rights of the doctor's office were infringed.

This case does, however, have an alarming violation of the law--and that is the City of Vernal's refusal to make the initial police reported public, a clear violation of GRAMA. This is no small thing. It appears the City of Vernal (which given its size and location, the city is probably unversed in dealing with media outlets) is skirting the law in what can only be described as a power play. As such, I think there needs to be some more exercising of free speech in this case--speech directed at the City of Vernal to be forthcoming and law compliant.

Uncle Gadianton
Salt Lake City, Utah

Based on the information in this article, there has been no crime committed.

DryForker
VERNAL, UT

Having dealt with this clinic myself on numerous occasions, I say good for you Jason!! They are rude more often than not! They are always right and you are always wrong. I realize it might not have been the "adult" thing to do but I can empathize with his frustration in dealing with this clinic and think the charges are totally bogus!!

just-a-fan
Bountiful, UT

I'd like to thank this guy for giving me a great idea on how to pay a disputed bill with a former landlord. This is exactly what some people deserve. Good job...Did he by any chance say, "a penney for your thoughts?" hahahahah Awesome

4Shore
Farmington, Utah

Of course this guy could've taken the higher road and provided the bag of pennies to the clerk. However, having dealt with clerks who are power hungry and have little if any respect, the penny guy was giving her a taste of her own medicine. There was no crime performed here. It's like dropping 25 $1 bills on the counter with some falling on the floor. He paid his bill in full with an everyday currency. End of story. Again, another stupid case where tax dollars were/will be wasted on a Police Officer and a forthcoming trial.

jp3
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm sure his mother is very proud of him for becoming a nationally-known smart alec...not.

TripleCrown
Santa Ana, CA

Ask for a jury trial.

Emophiliac
Vernal, UT

Of course, from a one-sided interview, the story seems to back the guy up. As to what the Basin Clinic's story is, I can't say (maybe the Vernal Express will say more on Wednesday).

The Basin Clinic services many area doctors. I've been there a few times, for physicals and for getting immunizations. Have I felt like the people at the desk were snotty? No, but that doesn't mean that is true for each and every person and visit.

The interesting question for me is, will the Clinic still allow him to visit a doctor located there? It may be that Jason will be switching to the doctors at the local hospital or maybe even be heading out of town. Seems like most of the doctors around here have more business than they can handle.

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