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Published: Monday, June 6 2011 10:00 a.m. MDT

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Kearns, UT

Glad to see these "heroes" are getting what they deserve.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

And have the criminals on the list been charged?

Somewhere in Utah, UT

If these women wanted to be whistle-blowers, there were legal ways to do it. They chose not to follow the legal procedures. They are getting what they asked for.

saltlake city, utah

They would make a pair at thier time serve.
The Goverment Hired Them they spiked a list of counter attacks on everyone
Finding the right way to be a loyal moral Trustful office worker!

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@Chris B

Yes, did you read the story. The two who illegally obtained information outside the scope of their employment for their own vendetta are being charged.

lion in zion
salt lake city, ut

this happens all the time in rural utah, workforce service in the south had a employee laughing at a job applicant along with another staff thinking no one else was in waiting room.. after i heard this i left cuz it apart of the good ol boy system that abounds. Got to keep a handle on the scandle and then it becomes gossip which they seem to take to higher degree of mocking and they know the rule or should as they are instructed to follow wisdom..like "do unto others" being a professional never was about copromize of confidentialty when you got hired!

Salt Lake City, UT

I say deport everyone on the list.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Johnson 72 said: I say deport everyone on the list.

Even though they at one point just added names willy nilly that sounded hispanic.
How racist of you, Johnson 72.

great outdoors, UT

I would like to know what if anything Herbert and Shurtliff did to investigate the real crime. People stealing tax payer money. The wrong people are being charged in this case.

saltlake city, utah

So they Broke the Law working in a Goverment office.
As this just proves a point-Thier no better then any one else!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT


"On" is a relatively simple word, sad you didn't understand it.

West Valley, UT

Since the Supreme Court upheld Arizona's immigration policy these two need to go free. It's not a crime to uncover lawbreakers.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

taking5 said: I would like to know what if anything Herbert and Shurtliff did to investigate the real crime. People stealing tax payer money. The wrong people are being charged in this case.

That's what the article was about, the 2 criminals and their sentencing.
Using tax payers money to steal and compile a "fake Illegals list" of hispanic
sounding names is a crime, and they are being punished for it, weakly punished I'll add.

The RIGHT people are being charged.. those who committed a crime, not those who's name sounds criminal to racists.

Somewhere in Utah, UT

To Chris B | 10:48 a.m. June 6, 2011
Salt Lake City, UT
And have the criminals on the list been charged?


They were -- the result of the charges against the criminals is what this article is all about.

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

Let's not lose sight of the fact that there have been cases in the news where benefits have been given to those who are not eligible.
And as a result, others have LOST benefits when their identification was used by someone else.
The pro-amnesty folks among us have nothing to gloat about here. By punishing these two women they are emboldening others to commit crimes.
Our authorities would do well to dedicate their efforts to using systems available (like SAVE) rather than chide these two women. There is no evidence that they had any motive other than exposing the problem to authorities.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@Chris B

Go study Civics 101 about illegally obtained evidence. Illegally obtained evidence cannot be used against another person. It is a technicality, I know, but it is a provision to protect eveyone.

I understood your question perfectly. Do you understand the 4th Amendment?

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

It was illegal and unethical for these two women to release this list.
It is also wrong and unethical for the government to aid and abet illegal aliens in their illegal activity. Almost all illegal aliens are guilty of identity fraud. I have been the victim of this crime (although probably not committed by an illegal alien).

There are two groups who want illegal aliens here:
1. Businesses who want cheep labor.
2. Liberal politicians who what them to vote.

The first group is right of center (in theory). The second is not. Both parties are to blame for this mess and they refuse to fix it.

Ordinary Americans bear the brunt of this invasion. Illegal aliens are also victimized by this mutually agreed upon blindness.

We must end the abuse without committing even greater abuse.
Yes, illegal aliens must leave.
Yes, we must take away the bait that attracts them.

There are many illegal aliens brought to this country under the age of three. If these people are now in their teens or young adults, this is the only country they have ever known.

It would not be just to deport everyone in a blanket action.

Salt Lake City, UT

@Happy Valley Heretic

"Even though they at one point just added names willy nilly that sounded hispanic."

False. The state already has acknowledged that the persons named on the list were in fact illegal aliens.

Important questions being asked by honest Utahns remain unanswered:

- Why hasn't Shurtleff vigorously prosecuted these persons who were named on the list for their various crimes?

- Why did the government refuse to investigate and prosecute those on the list in the first place? These women HAD duly notified government authorities, LONG BEFORE releasing the list.

But our corrupt government REFUSED to do so. It REFUSED to follow the law.

This refusal constitutes TYRANNY, folks.

Thomas Jefferson and others have pointed out that it is our duty to RESIST TYRANNY.

These two women did just that. This makes them true patriots and genuine American heroes.

Powell, OH

How can one get in trouble by revealing the location and information on criminals?

Murray, UT

32 out of the 34 social security numbers reported were fraudulent. It's time we cleaned house at the Department of workforce services.

When the government doesn't do their job and do things honestly, it forces people to take extreme measures. These ladies are victims of the dishonesty of the illegal immigration racket being run in this state, and supported by some of our elected officials.

For future reference, a child brought here has 180 days after their 18th birthday to return home and come back legally. Otherwise they are here illegally just like their parents.

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