Well said Duckhunter!
@goefishnNo it is ok because it is within the rules and also because
despite bitter, rejected, demoralized, humiliated, spurned, and whining utah
"fans" best efforts to pretend BYU recruited him on his mission we all
know they did not. We all know he simply wanted nothing to do with the
univeristy of utah and its failed basketball program and the idiotic accusations
of utah "fans" have undoubtedly confirmed the wisdom of wanting to
divorce himself from that entire situation to both his family and himself.Unlike BYU, fans who didn't blink an eye when jake murphy decided on his
mission to transfer to utah, utah fans take rejection to such a personal level
that they feel the need to impugn a good kid, his parents, a high class college
and coaching staff, and litterally anyone else they can think of in a vain
attempt to assuage their hurt feelings and utter despair.
How many times can coach Boylen contradict himself in the same interview?Come on coach, is he underappreciated, high end, penciled in, competing
for a spot, a real contributor, a bench warmer, a scholarship player or a walk
on? One thing's for sure: he is BYU's for now.
UteManBy your logic, Krysko is as incompetent as Boylen because he
did everything he could to prevent Sharp from leaving the Utah program.
Hey Ute fans, your not complaining that Dale Murphy's kid came back from his
mission and decided to enroll up at the U after commiting to the Y out of High
School. I have not read about any complaints from BYU on this. Oh Yeah, you
forgot about that one didn't you. Let the kids go to school where they want too!
@utemanWell it is hard to argue against that. But then Sharp was a
walkon at utah so it is pretty easy to assume boylens incompetence meant he was
clueless that Sharp is as good as he is.
Boylen had Jace Tavita slated as a starter for well over a year. Even worse, he
was a starter. Nearly half of the players Boylen recruited left Utah for D2 or
non-bcs schools with no NBA talent to speak of in 4 years. I am 100% certain
Boylen is not an expert on recruiting or Coaching in general.
@Vegas Ute, You do know that a filled arena from one of WCC venues
(which will happen) is about 2x more people than there were at the Huntsman
Center for the 2011 season- don't you?Incidentally, to compensate
for the enormous BYU fan base in WCC country, I hear many of BYU's away venues
will not be held in the home team's arena- and possibly at an NBA arena.
TjIt is ok in your mind because Sharp's Dad was the conduit through which
his recruitment took place? This whole deal started out suposedly as Sharp
wanting to go through an open recruitment process again like others had (trib,
may 24). Turns out he was already delivered to BYU and it was just a matter of
extracating himself out of his LOI, which Boylen's incompetence made easier.
VegasUte | 4:39 p.m. June 3, 2011 Las Vegas, NV Here is a question
for Josh: In the WCC, does the home team's team mother have to provide punch and
cookies for everyone at the game, or just the home team?Of course
Josh is going to get a lot of playing time. The WCC requires that the coaches
play every boy on the team for a stated period of time each game, just like Pop
Warner rules.Go Dons!! Go Santa Clara!!! Vegasute: Here
is the question for you: In the MWC do the players mothers give them punch and
cookies when they lose to WCC teams? You have had 8 players leave in the last
few months. There are probably more coaches than players at the U. Anyone at the
U right now is going to get playing time, there are barely enough to field a
team. Utah lost to every WCC team on it's schedule last year, and
has lost 8 players. Not sure where you're going with the WCC/playing time smack.
@MormonUte: You seem to be a class act above the rest of your fellow Ute fans
who post on these articles. Thank you for your civility.@VegasUte:
You are an embarrassment to those you profess to support.
@ Uncle RioI feel the same way about opportunity Urban. He couldn't
win a NC in Football at the U so he took off, too. Let's not hear any more
quotes from him either.
Wow, too much ink already spent on this minor event. Time to move on.No one can possibly have a 100% efficient recruiting effort, mistakes happen
& some prospects are missed. BYU feels he's worth a scholarship, now it's
up to them to maximize his potential. The young man's family escapes the pain
of college tuition. The U has a new vacancy they can recruit for.Why not let everyone win and move on. Good luck Josh, but
remember --- no tequila, no dinero, and (especially) no amor.
Who cares what Boylen thinks! Coach K has to move on with what he
has control over. He will get local talent. With his staff in place, I cannot
see that NOT happening. He has the right people around him and from what I have
seen, he and his staff CAN recruit. Give it some time.As far as
Sharp is concerned....move along folks, move along.
I remembered when Boylen got hired, spoke about winning a national championship,
what a crock. Boylen destroyed U of U's Basketball program, who cares what he
Here is a question for Josh: In the WCC, does the home team's team mother have
to provide punch and cookies for everyone at the game, or just the home team?Of course Josh is going to get a lot of playing time. The WCC requires
that the coaches play every boy on the team for a stated period of time each
game, just like Pop Warner rules.Go Dons!! Go Santa Clara!!!
In Boylen's world I'm not surprised. This is why he's now known as the former
To my fellow cougar fans- contrary to popular belief, Utah's players- such as
Will Clyburn and JJ O'brien were good ballers- many were probably as good as
many of BYU's players. The problem was that they were not coached properly.
Watch out for a time in the future when Utah has both talent and good coaching-
they'll give us a run for our money. That said, I think Josh could
fill K. Collinsworth's shoes nicely. Kyle was turned into a rebounding machine
during the NCAA tourney- I think he had 14 or so boards against Florida. If
Josh can put on 20 lbs. he will be a force to be reckoned with.
Boylen had this guy pegged as a starter? That's good enough for me. He's all
Anyone over 6'5" would have been started by Boylen. Regardless of talent.
But it's disheartening to see what talent we had penciled in for
next year leaving for greener pastures. I think we're in for some lean years.
@ Mormon Ute,Thanks for the info, i'll check it out.
It doesn't bother me that Sharp choses to go to BYU to play hoops. In my mind I
see it as though he is just like any returning Elder. Many of them seem to think
they have to go there after they have returned. Many Elders who never wanted to
go there, return home and all of a sudden it is the only place to go. Good luck
to him.As for Boylen, I can't for the life of me understand why we still
have to have quotes from him. He was horrible at recruiting and all of a sudden
this kid leaves and He had him penciled in? Can we please quit hearing about
Boyen? Seems like sour grapes to me.
Boylen was lights out with everything else he did at Utah, so why would anyone
dispute anything he says?
So Boylen thinks Sharp would have started for his team? Now that is an
So, now can all my fellow Ute fans who have been trying to downplay this admit
it is a true loss to our program? I just hate to see people come down on
talented kids just because they decide the U isn't for them anymore.As I said before, I believe Josh was lost to the Utes before Coach K had a
chance to talk to him and the article in the Provo Daily Herald confirms that.
Although I am equally sure that Josh's parent's fears about his scholarship were
unfounded and fueled by all the speculation from the other schools calling to
ask about him.Old Gregg, you need to read the Daily Herald article.
It spells out all the details and the time line.
@Gone Fishing,This is a serious question, not ment to stir up
anything, but how/where do you know that BYU had a scholarship in place and
enrolled him for the fall before Sharp told Krisco anything? I really would
like to read up more about this and if you have info on where I could verify
that statement I would like to know where you heard/read that.thanks,gregg fish
gone fishin;BYU did NOT recruit Sharp or any other athlete while they were
on their mission. BYU responded to an inquiry from Sharp's parents asking if
there might be a place on the roster for him. Admissions office gave him the
necessary paperwork prior to the deadline of the upcoming semester, just like
any other missionary that will return home after the application deadline for
the semester they want to attend has passed. Keep telling yourself that big bad
BYU is doing no no's if it makes you sleep better at night. Utah screwed up the
paperwork, then coach screwed up by not contacting anyone in Sharps family for 3
weeks after he was hired. He granted a conditional release to Sharp when he
thought he had some leverage trying to prevent him from attending BYU. BYU
grants transfer requests unconditionally when asked. Stayin classy!What's
passed is in the past. We will see how many bids each conference gets to the
dance next year. Until then you just keep up your obsessive spouting off.
Scared of Pac 12 competition, these two run to the MWC and WCC. If they want to
run from tougher competition, let em go. Not the type of players The U should
want. Need tougher guys than that.
BYU had a scholarship in place and enrolled him for the fall before this kid
told Krisco anything. Once again BYU wins the race to the gutter as they recruit
a kid on his mission. Of coarse this is nothing new for the y, Stay classy
BYU.broom hockey champKeep telling yourself that the wcc is better
than the Pac 12 if it makes you sleep at night but typically the wcc is a one
bid league 2 at best.
The fact that Boylen (proven to be one of the worst recruiters in college
basketball) had penciled Sharp in as a starter tells me all I need to know about
what kind of basketball player Sharp is.Oh, and PAC12 > MWC >
getting hit in the head with a hammer > WCC. See, I can do it too...
Boylen was correct Sharp will be a starter and a big time player...at BYU.
"Boylen penciled in Josh Sharp as a starter"While I'm glad
to see Sharp join the team, let's remember that Boylen's track record could be
better. Sharp will need to visit the creamery after every practice for months
if he wants to play D1 ball. 6'7" but 185 lbs?WCC
> MWC > pac10.2
Well boylens endorsement might be the kiss of death. LOLHopefully
Sharp pans out but I'm gonna take a wait and see approach with him. It isn't
exactly a ringing endorsement when a kid transfers from a terrible program. I
have seen Josh play quite a bit when he was at Lone Peak so I know he is good
but he is very thin and needs to bulk up to be a good player.