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Red roundup: Jim Boylen penciled in Josh Sharp as a starter

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  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 5, 2011 5:37 p.m.

    Well said Duckhunter!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 5, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    @goefishn

    No it is ok because it is within the rules and also because despite bitter, rejected, demoralized, humiliated, spurned, and whining utah "fans" best efforts to pretend BYU recruited him on his mission we all know they did not. We all know he simply wanted nothing to do with the univeristy of utah and its failed basketball program and the idiotic accusations of utah "fans" have undoubtedly confirmed the wisdom of wanting to divorce himself from that entire situation to both his family and himself.

    Unlike BYU, fans who didn't blink an eye when jake murphy decided on his mission to transfer to utah, utah fans take rejection to such a personal level that they feel the need to impugn a good kid, his parents, a high class college and coaching staff, and litterally anyone else they can think of in a vain attempt to assuage their hurt feelings and utter despair.

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    June 5, 2011 12:01 a.m.

    How many times can coach Boylen contradict himself in the same interview?

    Come on coach, is he underappreciated, high end, penciled in, competing for a spot, a real contributor, a bench warmer, a scholarship player or a walk on?

    One thing's for sure: he is BYU's for now.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    June 4, 2011 10:46 a.m.

    UteMan

    By your logic, Krysko is as incompetent as Boylen because he did everything he could to prevent Sharp from leaving the Utah program.

  • Judge Smailes Cedar Hills, UT
    June 4, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    Hey Ute fans, your not complaining that Dale Murphy's kid came back from his mission and decided to enroll up at the U after commiting to the Y out of High School. I have not read about any complaints from BYU on this. Oh Yeah, you forgot about that one didn't you. Let the kids go to school where they want too!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 4, 2011 7:11 a.m.

    @uteman

    Well it is hard to argue against that. But then Sharp was a walkon at utah so it is pretty easy to assume boylens incompetence meant he was clueless that Sharp is as good as he is.

  • UteMan South Jordan, UT
    June 3, 2011 10:35 p.m.

    Boylen had Jace Tavita slated as a starter for well over a year. Even worse, he was a starter. Nearly half of the players Boylen recruited left Utah for D2 or non-bcs schools with no NBA talent to speak of in 4 years. I am 100% certain Boylen is not an expert on recruiting or Coaching in general.

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 9:21 p.m.

    @Vegas Ute,
    You do know that a filled arena from one of WCC venues (which will happen) is about 2x more people than there were at the Huntsman Center for the 2011 season- don't you?

    Incidentally, to compensate for the enormous BYU fan base in WCC country, I hear many of BYU's away venues will not be held in the home team's arena- and possibly at an NBA arena.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 6:42 p.m.

    Tj
    It is ok in your mind because Sharp's Dad was the conduit through which his recruitment took place? This whole deal started out suposedly as Sharp wanting to go through an open recruitment process again like others had (trib, may 24). Turns out he was already delivered to BYU and it was just a matter of extracating himself out of his LOI, which Boylen's incompetence made easier.
    Dirty Pool?

  • SeattleUhasabbaltteam? Seattle, WA
    June 3, 2011 6:15 p.m.

    VegasUte | 4:39 p.m. June 3, 2011
    Las Vegas, NV
    Here is a question for Josh: In the WCC, does the home team's team mother have to provide punch and cookies for everyone at the game, or just the home team?

    Of course Josh is going to get a lot of playing time. The WCC requires that the coaches play every boy on the team for a stated period of time each game, just like Pop Warner rules.

    Go Dons!! Go Santa Clara!!!

    Vegasute: Here is the question for you: In the MWC do the players mothers give them punch and cookies when they lose to WCC teams? You have had 8 players leave in the last few months. There are probably more coaches than players at the U. Anyone at the U right now is going to get playing time, there are barely enough to field a team.

    Utah lost to every WCC team on it's schedule last year, and has lost 8 players. Not sure where you're going with the WCC/playing time smack.

  • Oh, please! Saint George, UT
    June 3, 2011 6:14 p.m.

    @MormonUte: You seem to be a class act above the rest of your fellow Ute fans who post on these articles. Thank you for your civility.

    @VegasUte: You are an embarrassment to those you profess to support.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    June 3, 2011 5:49 p.m.

    @ Uncle Rio

    I feel the same way about opportunity Urban. He couldn't win a NC in Football at the U so he took off, too. Let's not hear any more quotes from him either.

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    June 3, 2011 5:36 p.m.

    Wow, too much ink already spent on this minor event. Time to move on.

    No one can possibly have a 100% efficient recruiting effort, mistakes happen & some prospects are missed. BYU feels he's worth a scholarship, now it's up to them to maximize his potential. The young man's family escapes the pain of college tuition. The U has a new vacancy they can recruit for.

    Why not let everyone win and move on.

    Good luck Josh, but remember --- no tequila, no dinero, and (especially) no amor.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    June 3, 2011 5:14 p.m.

    Who cares what Boylen thinks!

    Coach K has to move on with what he has control over. He will get local talent. With his staff in place, I cannot see that NOT happening. He has the right people around him and from what I have seen, he and his staff CAN recruit. Give it some time.

    As far as Sharp is concerned....move along folks, move along.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    June 3, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    I remembered when Boylen got hired, spoke about winning a national championship, what a crock. Boylen destroyed U of U's Basketball program, who cares what he thinks anymore.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 3, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    Here is a question for Josh: In the WCC, does the home team's team mother have to provide punch and cookies for everyone at the game, or just the home team?

    Of course Josh is going to get a lot of playing time. The WCC requires that the coaches play every boy on the team for a stated period of time each game, just like Pop Warner rules.

    Go Dons!! Go Santa Clara!!!

  • lynninsj south jordan, utah
    June 3, 2011 4:37 p.m.

    In Boylen's world I'm not surprised. This is why he's now known as the former coach.

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 4:05 p.m.

    To my fellow cougar fans- contrary to popular belief, Utah's players- such as Will Clyburn and JJ O'brien were good ballers- many were probably as good as many of BYU's players. The problem was that they were not coached properly. Watch out for a time in the future when Utah has both talent and good coaching- they'll give us a run for our money.

    That said, I think Josh could fill K. Collinsworth's shoes nicely. Kyle was turned into a rebounding machine during the NCAA tourney- I think he had 14 or so boards against Florida. If Josh can put on 20 lbs. he will be a force to be reckoned with.

  • MESOUTE Karchaj, A.V.
    June 3, 2011 3:34 p.m.

    Boylen had this guy pegged as a starter? That's good enough for me. He's all yours BYU.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 3, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    Anyone over 6'5" would have been started by Boylen. Regardless of talent.

    But it's disheartening to see what talent we had penciled in for next year leaving for greener pastures. I think we're in for some lean years.

  • Old Gregg Alpine, UT
    June 3, 2011 3:10 p.m.

    @ Mormon Ute,

    Thanks for the info, i'll check it out.

  • Skippy West Jordan, UT
    June 3, 2011 3:08 p.m.

    It doesn't bother me that Sharp choses to go to BYU to play hoops. In my mind I see it as though he is just like any returning Elder. Many of them seem to think they have to go there after they have returned. Many Elders who never wanted to go there, return home and all of a sudden it is the only place to go. Good luck to him.
    As for Boylen, I can't for the life of me understand why we still have to have quotes from him. He was horrible at recruiting and all of a sudden this kid leaves and He had him penciled in? Can we please quit hearing about Boyen? Seems like sour grapes to me.

  • Hondo Alpine, UT
    June 3, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    Boylen was lights out with everything else he did at Utah, so why would anyone dispute anything he says?

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 2:12 p.m.

    So Boylen thinks Sharp would have started for his team? Now that is an accomplishment.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    June 3, 2011 1:54 p.m.

    So, now can all my fellow Ute fans who have been trying to downplay this admit it is a true loss to our program? I just hate to see people come down on talented kids just because they decide the U isn't for them anymore.

    As I said before, I believe Josh was lost to the Utes before Coach K had a chance to talk to him and the article in the Provo Daily Herald confirms that. Although I am equally sure that Josh's parent's fears about his scholarship were unfounded and fueled by all the speculation from the other schools calling to ask about him.

    Old Gregg, you need to read the Daily Herald article. It spells out all the details and the time line.

  • Old Gregg Alpine, UT
    June 3, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    @Gone Fishing,

    This is a serious question, not ment to stir up anything, but how/where do you know that BYU had a scholarship in place and enrolled him for the fall before Sharp told Krisco anything? I really would like to read up more about this and if you have info on where I could verify that statement I would like to know where you heard/read that.

    thanks,

    gregg fish

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 3, 2011 1:15 p.m.

    gone fishin;
    BYU did NOT recruit Sharp or any other athlete while they were on their mission. BYU responded to an inquiry from Sharp's parents asking if there might be a place on the roster for him. Admissions office gave him the necessary paperwork prior to the deadline of the upcoming semester, just like any other missionary that will return home after the application deadline for the semester they want to attend has passed. Keep telling yourself that big bad BYU is doing no no's if it makes you sleep better at night. Utah screwed up the paperwork, then coach screwed up by not contacting anyone in Sharps family for 3 weeks after he was hired. He granted a conditional release to Sharp when he thought he had some leverage trying to prevent him from attending BYU. BYU grants transfer requests unconditionally when asked. Stayin classy!
    What's passed is in the past. We will see how many bids each conference gets to the dance next year. Until then you just keep up your obsessive spouting off.

  • MenaceToSociety Draper, UT
    June 3, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    Scared of Pac 12 competition, these two run to the MWC and WCC. If they want to run from tougher competition, let em go. Not the type of players The U should want. Need tougher guys than that.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    BYU had a scholarship in place and enrolled him for the fall before this kid told Krisco anything. Once again BYU wins the race to the gutter as they recruit a kid on his mission. Of coarse this is nothing new for the y, Stay classy BYU.
    broom hockey champ
    Keep telling yourself that the wcc is better than the Pac 12 if it makes you sleep at night but typically the wcc is a one bid league 2 at best.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    June 3, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    The fact that Boylen (proven to be one of the worst recruiters in college basketball) had penciled Sharp in as a starter tells me all I need to know about what kind of basketball player Sharp is.

    Oh, and PAC12 > MWC > getting hit in the head with a hammer > WCC. See, I can do it too...

  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    June 3, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    Boylen was correct Sharp will be a starter and a big time player...at BYU.

  • Broom Hockey Champ Alpine, UT
    June 3, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    "Boylen penciled in Josh Sharp as a starter"

    While I'm glad to see Sharp join the team, let's remember that Boylen's track record could be better. Sharp will need to visit the creamery after every practice for months if he wants to play D1 ball.

    6'7" but 185 lbs?

    WCC > MWC > pac10.2

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 3, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    Well boylens endorsement might be the kiss of death. LOL

    Hopefully Sharp pans out but I'm gonna take a wait and see approach with him. It isn't exactly a ringing endorsement when a kid transfers from a terrible program. I have seen Josh play quite a bit when he was at Lone Peak so I know he is good but he is very thin and needs to bulk up to be a good player.