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Published: Wednesday, June 1 2011 9:23 p.m. MDT

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Cougar_Independence
OMAHA, NE

How to out-recruit Utah 101:

Coach: "Son, your first game at BYU will be on ESPN. On the other hand, your first game at Utah will be on Versus."

Player: "I choose BYU and ESPN."

BYU will win the recruiting war. Hands down.

ESPN/BYU TV > Doormat of PAC 12 (Utah)

Go Cougars!

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Independence versus MWC will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU.

National TV coverage will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU. (Just ask Boise State what ESPN has done for their program the past 5+ years.)

Knowing the players will play teams like Texas, Notre Dame, West Virginia, Ole Miss, Hawaii, Utah, Oregon State, Georgia Tech, Boise State (and the list goes on and on) will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU.

Enthusiastic, skilled coaches like Bronco, Doman Cahoon, and DuPaix will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU.

The future is very bright! I'm looking forward to seeing the list of commits in the coming weeks. Go Cougs!

Idaho Coug
Meridian, Idaho

I have always thought BYU is the most difficult place to create and sustain a successful program in the nation. As this article highlights, the talent pool is truly limited - kids who can play at this level and who can and want to live the standards. Even many who are in that limited pool choose Utah or other BCS programs restricting the pool further. Then a good percentage will leave for two years impacting their athleticism and making juggling the roster a full-time job for someone.

My point is, I have always thought that as a regular top-25 program BYU greatly overachieves. No other coach in the country would want the built-in challenges that exist at BYU. And yet they are highly successful season after season.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

"Enthusiastic, skilled coaches like Bronco, Doman Cahoon, and DuPaix will improve the talent that wants to come to BYU."

Cougfan,

You do realize that a cardboard box could be in charge of recruiting and the "talent" universe will always be the same. The number of elite Mormon athletes going to "other" Universities can be counted on one hand.... and trust me, they know about bYu and bYu knows aout them.

No elite non Mormon will every go to bYu.

Idaho Coug
Meridian, Idaho

Hedgehog - I think there are several elite Mormon athletes at your U actually. Maybe you don't rate the talent at the U as high as I do?

But you are correct in that the talent pool for BYU is very specific and narrow. Making BYU's success even that more impressive.

hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

Idaho kewg,

My point is that nothing changes... recuiting opportunities are exactly the same at the Y and will never improve (or decline).

It is what it is.

Utah on the other hand has unlimited possibilities.

Sandy Sport Fan 2.0
Sandy, UT

Glad to have DuPaix recruiting.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@hh,

Maybe your definition of elite is different than mine, but two quick names that come to mind as elite non-Mormon athletes at BYU are Josh Quezada and Cody Hoffman. There are many others that fall into this category as well, but those two had such amazing Freshman campaigns I didn't figure you could argue with those. Don't worry, you'll see a lot of them on Sept. 17.

BTW, Ty Detmer was not a Mormon when he came to BYU either.

fan in orem
Orem, Utah

"Utah on the other hand has unlimited possibilities."

And yet they do so little with it.

Tommy2Shoes
Lehi, UT

Glad DuPaix is aboard. Need to get the best recruits possible at the Y. There have been some great non-LDS players that have come to the Y. I was attending school there when Cosic was playing. Later we got McMahon. We will occasionally land a few elite players but realistically with the state of college recruiting (under the table stuff we shouldn't do) we will have to build our teams from 2 and 3 star recruits. Great coaching and two-year missions should be enough to keep us in the top 25 in both FB and BB all the way to the end of the world.

Papa Smurf UTE
Herriman, UT

CougfanTX,

Josh Quezada and Cody Hoffman are not elite talent. Had Heaps not been mormon, and came to Byu, then that would be considered Elite Talent. Those are middle of the pack guys, that most top 25 programs have a supply of, sitting on the bench, behind that Elite Talent. Dont get me wrong, they are both good players, but your definition of Elite Talent is different than everyone elses outside the Byu family, fans, and program. Florida, Odio St, USC, OU, Texas etc. would not consider either of those 2 players as elite talent. They may try to recruit them, even the big name schools need backups and pratice squad players. Before you say it, I know, I know, the Utes dont get these types of players either. At least not yet anyway.

SeattleUhasabballteam?
Seattle, WA

hedgehog | 8:33 a.m. June 2, 2011
Ann Arbor, MI

No elite non Mormon will every go to bYu.

Jim McMahon- Pro Bowl QB
Ty Detmer (not LDS when he came to BYU) - Heisman Trophy

In Stitches
Provo, Utah

hedgehog

"No elite non Mormon will every go to bYu."

Ty Detmer, Jim McMahan ....Do you EVER get tired of always being completely wrong?! I guess not.

Cougar Claws
Lindon, UT

No elite non-Mormon will ever go to BYU?

Perhaps not, but BYU is a ridiculously well coached team. Look at the teams fielded under Coach Mendenhalls tenure. Star players like Brian Kehl, Johnny Harline, Curtis Brown, Max Hall, Cameron Jensen, and Dennis Pitta were average at best "talent" by the leagues definition.

Now BYU is getting more "talented" players like Cody Hoffman and Joshua Quezada who, I agree, are not "elite" players, but are still more "talented" than what BYU has fielded in year's past. The other difference is that the roster is becoming full of these players. It is not just the starters. So Mendenhall has a better coaching staff, better talent, and therefore a better chance to contend for championships. There may not be tons of athletes on BYUs squad, but this is hands down the most talent that Mendenhall, and perhaps BYU, has ever had on their team top to bottom. BYU is well coached enough that they don't need elite talent to have a chance to beat elite teams. Look at what they've done without it! Let alone what they can do with more. They aren't even close to their ceiling.

fan in orem
Orem, Utah

To Papa Smurf Ute:

We can't afford the players that Florida, Ohio St, USC, OU, Texas etc. recruit, so that really doesn't apply to the discussion. Just keep in mind that Hoffman and Quezada were true freshmen last year. You will see that they are 'elite' before their careers are over.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Papa Smurf UTE | 10:05 a.m. June 2, 2011
Herriman, UT
CougfanTX, Josh Quezada and Cody Hoffman are not elite talent.

Oh, I get it. You rely on the rating agencies to determine if players are elite talent by how many stars they get. The rating agencies get as many wrong as they get right.

I rely on the players performance on the field. If you missed Quezada and Hoffman last year, I think you'll agree with me by the end of this season that both are elite talent. To call them practice players shows that you have no idea how talented they are.

Pavalova
Surfers Paradise, AU

Well now that there's a lexus dealership in ut county, we could just be like the other BCS schools and give cars to star athletes. Talk about a great recruiting tool. I don't think tatoo parlors in ut county are that popular at the moment.

WestCoast1
Escondido, CA

Cougar_Independence,

I've got to hand it to BYU fans like you who can take BYU's uncertain football future with no chance for a real bowl game to play for, and make it sound better than Utah's guaranteed opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl, or even for the BCS national title.

And as far as your hoping and praying that the Utes become a "doormat" as you say, at least people will be noticing them, which is more than one can say about BYU.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@westcoast1

So if utah now has a "guaranteed" opportunity to play for a national title simply by being in the pac10 how come USC, you've heard of them you know USC, was denied that opportunity a few years ago despite a #2 ranking? If USC can be denied then what in the world makes you think utah has some sort of guaranty?

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

"And as far as your hoping and praying that the Utes become a "doormat" as you say, at least people will be noticing them, which is more than one can say about BYU."

If people didn't notice BYU, why did ESPN bother to make an 8-year deal with them? And why are all these big name programs lining up to play BYU?

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