I think it's certainly possible for Whittingham to leave Utah. I was a little
concerned this past offseason about Florida/Miami.Of course, maybe
he was never considered... but I was at least a little weary. Whittingham loves
Utah and he loves the Utes. But at the end of the day, he's gonna do what's best
for his family. I'm certain Whittingham is a very driven individual.
Translation: his competitive side will always aspire to reach the highest level.
If a situation came that he viewed as beneficial, I guarantee you he could ditch
the Utes. Don't expect him to pass up the Notre Dame, Florida and UCLA types,
leaving millions of dollars and personal growth on the table simply to remain at
Utah.I think it's fair to say that most college coaches love where
they coach right now. They love their cities, their players and their
communities. But many of them decide to leave. Why would Whittingham be any
different?And regarding Mendenhall... he has the potential to be a
top level coach. So it may be that someday BYU will face the prospect of losing
Now that would be an interesting situation...However Urban is at best somewhat
doubtful. There's no doubt... no doubt at all... that he'd be a logical
choice...but until he knows the room temperature in the hot box that Tressel
created and the fallout that's coming in terms of sactions of scholarships and
post season play I seriously doubt that he would even want to be anywhere near
Columbus Ohio right now. He's hotwired to take existing good teams and make them
great teams...and does so on a short track... but he's not known for building
from scratch. He'll test the winds but I wouldn't plan your future on him being
in Ohio soon...possibly a couple of years from now.Now Kyle...that's a
completely different situation altogether. That would be a great opportunity
for him...short or long term. With or without a National Title...as long as he
doesn't completely fall on his face...which even I can't visualize I'm sure
OSU's President Gee a former U alum and Y professor is entertaining that
possibility of seeing Whit in Buckeye Crimson.
"As for Bronco and BYU? Well, when your coaching one of the premiere
programs in college Football, going anywhere else would be a big step
down."Quote from Blue Saint, in regards to why Bronco wouldn't
consider coaching at OSU. For my response, I quote duckhunter (so
many, many, many, many, many times): "LOL"
I think both Coach Meyer and Coach Kyle are going to stay as far away from Ohio
State as possible. Only an idiot volunteers to be captain of the Titanic AFTER
it hits the iceberg.
HoHum: I did not make any predictions for Utah. I would say winning the south
would be an incredible first year in the PAC12. No, it isn't a conference
championship. But I think most people would be impressed, regardless of USC
being banned. It would be diminished if USC actually finished with the best
record, but they need to play out the season to determine that. I am not a
delusional Utah fan. I do not think Utah is going to win the conference, but
think they have as good of a shot as any other team in the South division to
win. Personally I think USC finishes with the best record, and whomever comes
out of the south will face that criticism. If Utah does, they have a decent
shot, considering they would be facing Colorado the week before and the north
teams would be playing their rival.The U did get a favorable
schedule, but if they win the south, they get a shot at either Oregon or
Stanford and the opportunity to prove themselves. You can't really ask for more
"Here is the simple answer that even a cavemen could understand: Bronco has
no desire to coach anywhere else"Blewkewg,Nor does
Kwhitt... yet the offers never stop.For a coach that is so
innovative (as published in the Dnews)regarding cutting edge nutritional
technology you'd think someone (anyone) would seek boncos services.
MUSSing with U,Regarding applying the label "legacy/prestigious
programs"...Utah has had accomplished some great things in
football in the last 10 years, and was solid in the 90s, but they don't have the
resume to be called a legacy program.While BYU has a tradition of
football excellence, in my opinion they don't make the cut either. I say that
not as a Ute fan, but by looking at what the national media/fans have to say on
the matter. ESPN , for example, gave BYU the #25 rating in 2009 in their
"prestige rating" of college football teams.BYU fans can
certainly be proud of their tradition and the rating listed above, but I would
reserve the title of "legacy program" for top 15 teams.Bye
the way, the BCS conferences have the following numbers of top 25 and top 50
"prestige teams" in the ESPN listing:SEC 8-8Big 10
5-10ACC 5-9Pac 12 3-9Big 12 3-5Big East 0-4As I mentioned, BYU was 25. Utah was 45.
govt rocks: Could it be u might win the south is because USC can't.
They are on probation, colo joke, ucla?, ua not, asu probably the winner. The u
has such a pass the first year, too bad they can't prove themselves against
Oregon, Stanford, Cal, different story. I wish them well, honestly, but be
realistic and if they win the south, what kind of bragging rights is it.
Uteanymous - Really? Did you just take up that much space to say that it is
better to have a National Championship than to not have a National
Championship?The logic is stunning.
Uteology"Yawn, while you live in a fairy tale world I live in
reality."Your reality#1 < #2, #4 or #5True reality#1 > #2, #4 or #5Spin all you want, but
for a fan base that's moving to the so-called "conference of
champions", your fantasy of 2nd or 4th or 5th place being better than a
championship only exists in the fairy tale world of fans who've never
experienced the real thing.In the Olympics, they only play the
national anthem for the gold medal winner. In the Kentucky Derby.
only the winner get to wear the bed of roses.And in major college
football, only the national champion is awarded a crystal football trophy to
display in their sports hall of fame.BYU has one.Utah
@justgordon"National Championships....we prefer to win BCS
games"Yea who wouldn't rather finish 4th than 1st.LOL!
MUSSING,what is your point?
The best thing about the links is that the Sporting News picked Utah to win the
PAC12 South. yet, no one seems to be commenting on that. Instead they comment
on some bloggers opinion about the OSU coaching vacancy. Everyone knows it is
Urban Meyers in 2012 if he wants it.The chest pounding of who has a
better football program is ridiculous. The onloy thing that matters is what
have you done for me lately. Neither program did anything memorable the last 2
seasons. They are both good, solid programs, but neither is a top program in
Preseason National Championships and mythical National Championships for beating
7-6 teams I thought were reserved for conversations in the Provo Daily Herald or
the Daily Universe. As Utes, we prefer to win BCS games, but then it is
difficult to hold a conversation with fans of schools who have never been to a
BCS bowl let alone won one.
UteologySorry, Michigan 2008 was a team in shambles that was just
starting to rebuild with a new coach; nothing even remotely comparable to a
#3-ranked team that had played in the BCS championship game the year before and
being led by a returning Heisman trophy winner.We you've finished in
the Top 25 50% of the time for the last third of a century, won a national
championship and a Heisman Trophy, then you can call yourself a
legacy/prestigious program like BYU.Sorry, Uteology, but
Johnny-come-lately programs that have only managed to finish in the AP Top 25
five times in their entire history don't qualify, even if they have managed to a
have a couple of great years lately.
Which is more ridiculous:Blue Saint saying, "As for Bronco and
BYU? Well, when your coaching one of the premiere programs in college Football,
going anywhere else would be a big step down."orThe
fact that 13 readers thought his comments were worthy of a recommendation.My advice to you 14 knuckle-heads - leave the 801 area code and suggest
to sports fans that the Ohio State job is a step down from the BYU job.Oh, the looks you'll get!
@ hedgehogHere is the simple answer that even a cavemen could
understand: Bronco has no desire to coach anywhere else.
@CGYawn, while you live in a fairy tale world I live in reality.
Week 1: 08-30-2008 Utah 25 #24 Michigan 23 @Ann Arbor,
MINope, no airport celebrations. Granted not a top 5 team but yes a
"storied program".Week 1: 09-01-2007 Appalachian St. 34 #5
Michigan 32 @Ann Arbor, MI Yes celebrations but not at an
airport... and NO Appalachian St. is not a "legacy/prestigious"
program like BYU supposedly is.
It's hillarious how Utah fans delude themselves into believing that it's more
important to beat a ranked team, than it is to BE RANKED.I guess
when you've been ranked as few times as the Utes have been ranked, you'll grasp
at anything to help feel good about yourself.
gonefishnNational Championship > Rose, Fiesta or Sugar Bowl win
(regardless of how many)UteologyIF, Utah ever has a big
win over a storied, top 5 program such as Ohio State, USC, Notre Dame, Alabama,
Florida, Texas, etc., in the first week of the season GUARANTEED, Utah fans will
be celebrating. Since Utah only schedules teams like Montana State we know
that'll never happen.
@Truth MachineUtah finished #2/#4 in 2008, because the Utes finished
UNRANKED from 2005 to 2007.BYU finished #1/#1 in 1984, because the
Cougars finished #7/#7 in 1983!------------Ahh, then
please explain why...TCU who finished #2/#2 in 2010 did not
even get a shot at the NC even though TCU was #6/#6 in 2009 while
Auburn was un-ranked and Oregon #11/#11.I will give you a hint: BcS
@Truth MachineThat 1984 team with a #104 SOS would not be playing in
BCS game let alone the title game today, so give it a rest.In
2006/2007 how many final ranked teams did you beat?ONE #16 TCU...
you've won TWO final ranked teams in the MWC era.So congrats on your
great accomplishments.@Mt Rushmore"Gotta love the Utah
fan "preseason NC" hyperbole. BYU fans were simply spontaneouly
celebrating a big win over a storied program."Actually the
original response was to phoenix a BYU fan, who confused his team with the Utes
when he said, "Congratulations to the Utes on winning another pre-season
national championship!"Again sir, name another
"legacy/prestigious" program, as many BYU fans describe themselves as,
that celebrated at an airport for beating a "stored program" in week
one. I've been watching football since the mid 80s and I can't recall a SINGLE
airport celebration after GAME 1.
I love how Ute fans don't HAVE a National Championship so they constantly have
to claim that BYU's doesn't count. U sound insecure!
Truth machineTCU's Rose Bowl 2010, Boise's Fiesta 2009 and Utah's Sugar
2008 are far more relevent to modern college football than 1984. Congratulations
you did less than what Utah has done twice. BYU 1984 = Hawaii 2007 except Hawaii
had to play Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.
forreal people The level of competition is factored into the final
rankings, which are the ONLY measurement that matters in measuring the overall
success of a season.You can whine all you want to, but...If Utah's 2008 Top 25 wins were really that impressive, why weren't the voters
more impressed?If BYU's 13-0 record against unranked teams was
really so unimpressive, why were the voters so impressed that BYU was selected
#1 by ALL FIVE major selecting organizations in 1984?
Willary: Does the u teach that ohio is on the east coast? Midwest is what
everyone says.Anyone know who wrote this article? Name was jazzyute?
20 year old ute, why would he have said that Bronco was considered? Maybe tressel could do the Pete Carrol, who is from the mighty BCS power
conference -- pac 10, try to cheat the sytem, buy players, turn a blind eye to
what is going on, get caught, move on to he NFL and leave the school. Money as
so constantly refered to by the BCS posters here, evidently is as they say, the
breeder of corruption.Is the pressure of winning going to build on
Whit. I think he is a great guy and ethical, and will resist the push from all
of the utes who want a winning program and a national championship. The boosters
who never played, know so much more than he does and will judge him every monday
morning.Good luck to him and I hope he finds reasons to stay that
are greater than the money that might be offered to leave for a program in
Really Utah should give wit a big raise, they'd be DONE without him.
Uteology"Why would ANY Ute be jealous of BYU celebrating a
preseason NC in September at 1-0? I am amused not jealous"Gotta
love the Utah fan "preseason NC" hyperbole. BYU fans were simply
spontaneouly celebrating a big win over a storied program.It was
nothing close to that week-long, mid-season national championship qualifying
game celebration by Utah fans last season in what was supposed to be the biggest
game in Utah history, only to have TCU slam the door on Utah's by halftime in
that 7-47 humiliation.
@lonstar runner,Why dont you go back and look at the average
computer ranking AND the average human ranking for those top 25 finishes, Utah
is higher ranked in both. So a 5-5 tie is not the real story.Your
"3 top 15 vs 2 top 15" comment is absulutly absurd. How about I
counter with our "2 top 4 finishes vs 0 top 4 finishes" or "2 top
10 vs 0 top 10" or our "2 undefeted vs 0 undefeted" or our
"2 bcs bowl victories vs 0 apperances" or the Utes having more
wins against ranked opponants. Or the utes having the most wins against BCS
programs out of any non BCS school in the nation, since the BCS (1998). The level of competition is all that matters. That's why Utah, BSU, and
TCU did not play for a NC, and why byu was never in the conversation for
anything close to a BCS game. My favorite though, showing ABSOLUTE
dominance over the 84 cougs accomplishment 27 years ago (zero wins against
ranked in final polls): 2008 Utes had 4 top 25 final poll wins, two top ten.
(Most in byu history 2 in one season)
Uteology"Utah had a parade for the ONLY undefeated team in the
nation who beat 4 ranked teams (2 top 7). We had no control over being #2."
Actually, U did.Utah finished #2/#4 in 2008, because the
Utes finished UNRANKED from 2005 to 2007.BYU finished #1/#1 in 1984,
because the Cougars finished #7/#7 in 1983!Call us the FIRST time
Utah manages to finish in the Top 15 two years in a row.BYU has
managed to do that several times, including as recently as 2006/2007.
forreal people A conference championship is a conference
championship. NOBODY goes back to check whether the conference was UP or DOWN
during a particular year.AP Top 25 Finishes during the MWC era:BYU 5Utah 4National Individual Award Winners during the MWC
era:BYU 1Utah 0MWC ChampionshipsBYU 4Utah
410+ Win Seasons during the MWC era:BYU 5Utah 5Even during BYU's worst decade since the 70's, even with BYU's worst
three year period since the 60's, even during Utah's best decade in Utah
football history, the Cougars still managed to finish in the AP Top 25
more time than the Utesin fact, BYU finished in the AP Top 25 as
many times during the MWC era, as the Utes have in the ENTIRE HISTORY.BYU had THREE Top 15 finishes during the MWC era; Utah only had TWO!Utah fans have this fantasy that occassional great seasons somehow make all of
their mediocre seasons in between great.
Hey Swoop,There is a big difference between the Oklahoma game and
the Alabama game. It is true that Oklahoma started the season #3 in the nation,
but they didn't even end up in the top 25, which means they really weren't
nearly as good as projected. And that heisman trophy winner was out the entire
second half of your game. "Utah, as I recall, had a formal
parade for finishing 2nd."The parade was actually for finishing
the season undefeated. That 2008 team had reached their full potential. No
team can ever do better than undefeated."no different than Utah
fans rushing the field every time the Utes won a home game against a ranked
opponent in 2008, none of which were ranked in the Top 10." TCU
actually finished the year #7 in 2008. Nice try. You will always
remember celebrating after the Oklahoma game, only to get blown out twice that
same year, while I will always remember celebrating after the Alabama game,
knowing that Utah was the only undefeated team in the nation.
@SwoopThe next time BYU upsets an elite, #3-ranked team in a BCS
GAME in January... by all means party like its 1984. Until then you're the only
"legacy" program to celbrate at an airport in the first week of
September. If I am wrong then please correct me.Utah had a parade
for the ONLY undefeated team in the nation who beat 4 ranked teams (2 top 7).
We had no control over being #2. Ah, theres a huge difference
between storming the field, ala Notre Dame fans did with a win over at the time
#14 Utah, then celebrating in the streets of Provo and Provo Airport like you
won a NC in September.Why would ANY Ute be jealous of BYU
celebrating a preseason NC in September at 1-0? I am amused not jealous.
Once again, it all gets back to BYU vs. Utah. I really think I could write an
article about an club archery team at the University of Utah or about the BYU
intramural softball championships and somehow it would turn into a showdown of
BYU vs. Utah, 1944 vs. 1984, who is the best, discussion between duckhunter and
hedgehog - wiht the usual detractors chiming in. Tiresome.Coach Whit
is happy where he is. Bronco is perfect for his job. Neither is going anywhere.
Move on, nothing to see here.
Uteology"BYU football: Provo celebrates stunning winPublished: Monday, Sept. 7, 2009"The next time Utah upsets an
elite, #3-ranked team BCS championship game team led by a returning Heisman
Trophy winning quarterback (who, btw, was selected #1 in the NFL draft THAT
year), in the inaugural, made-for-television college football game in Cowboys
Stadium, U have BYU's permission to celebrate when Utah returns to Salt Lake
airport in the wee hours of the morning.The closest Utah has ever
come to such a momentous win was Utah's Sugar Bowl win over #4 Alabama.Utah, as I recall, had a formal parade for finishing 2nd.BYU, had
a spontaneous celebration for an early season win, no different than Utah fans
rushing the field every time the Utes won a home game against a ranked opponent
in 2008, none of which were ranked in the Top 10.Get over your
@forreal peopleSo according to you utah didn't compete in any sports
in the mwc except football and basketball. LOLNice program you have
there. It ought to vault right to the top of the pac10 in no time.LOL!
@scenic viewWhat does retired athletes have to do with what your
program is today? As Utah continues to point to athletes we are currently
developing you guys keep pointing to retired athletes. I like that trend, keep
it up.@Uteanymous No, BYU can count all the different
combination of championships they want but until they win at least ONE BCS game
and get to at least ONE final four in the current era nothing else really
USA lover1) When Byu wins a close one it is clutch but when the Utes win
it is a fluke? Hilarious.2) As far as your comment about basketball goes,
just realize BYU had their best offensive and defensive players in program
history but could only manage a sweet sixteen apearance. Do you think that
situation will improve in the WCC? The fact that BYU has not gone passed the
sweet 16 in 30 years says no.
@wilary..."Big boy football..."Answer: Poinsettia Bowl, or
Las Vegas Bowl if you get lucky. Been there, done that.
USA,here is a tissue.
@USAloverJust more excuses. Utah is in the Pac-12 because of the
Fiesta and Sugar bowls. Anyone saying otherwise is naive. Colorado
is in because Denver was the biggest market left out west. Simple as that.Utah and BYU share the same TV market. Utah got the nod because people
around the country know Utah football. They watched Utah bust the BCS, and run
over Bama.People in wardhouses all across the country know BYU
football. Sadly, once you leave the wardhouse, nobody else does.
Where coaching nationally is concerned... National Coach of the Year Bronco 0 Coach Whit 1 Clearly Kyle Whittingham would get
the first look of the two.
Not sure why I'm being censored by Deseret News but let me try again...@phoenix First, you know there are no such "Utah-TCU Biggest
Game in Utah History" t-shirt's but we all know what happeded after Game 1
in Sep. 5 2009:"People danced in the streets. They hugged
perfect strangers. They lit off fireworks. And in general, they celebrated and
celebrated and celebrated...Provo didn't look, act or feel like Provo Saturday
evening."-- Dan Rasmussen, Deseret News (Monday, Sept. 7,
2009)In conclusion, preseason is BYU's time of year by postseason
reality has sunk in. After all, you can't really dance in the streets after a
game in December when your fierce rival has already won in January twice in the
Uteanymous,I'm a football fan dude. No one cares. Go argue about
your swimming titles on the swimming stories. Your 4 titles in FB don't compare
with the 4 titles utah one. BYU wins football titles on down years. That is a
proven fact. Show me the year in BYU football history where 3 teams in BYU's
conference were final top 25 teams, and two of them top 10. Show me please where
byu ever won a conference title against a good conference. In the MWC, the
pecking order was clear, top ten utah vs. top ten TCU. Where was byu against the
good teams? Utah beat a top 10 (FINAL POLLS) tcu team in 2008, and destroyed a
top 25 byu team (FINAL POLLS). Show me where byu has ever competed on that
level. Please.Point is that it's all about FB. BB is a way distant
Utah got the nod because of their research facilities and state affiliation, NOT
because their athletics are superior because they are not nor because they sell
more tickets because they DON'T!Colorado got the not for similiar
reasons and their football program is horrible.BYU was also
uninvited because of their specific religious affiliation and the recent Prop. 8
fiasco.Back to your video games....
scenic view,"We'll see your #1 picks (one of them a bust), and
raise you a Heisman Trophy winner, a Super Bowl winning MVP, and a three-time
NBA champion (2 as a player, 1 as a GM)."LOL. Dude, none of
that happened while in the MWC. ALL of what I metioned was while the UTES were
in the Mountain West. After all, that's what the post I was responding to was
about. Your really streching there budy. And no, those BB credentials that your
mentioning don't compare to Utah's. How does byu basketball sudenly enter the
conversation? You better check the NCAA record books before mentioning utah and
BYU bb in the same argument. Utah is one of the top programs of all time. 3 time nba champion from byu and the MWC - LOL.
"It's doubtful many BYU fans will be shelling out $20 a month to catch Utah
vs Washington State on the PAC 12 channel."Maybe so, but BYU
fans will be shelling out the money for the PAC 12 channel because that is where
every BYU vs a PAC 12 team (including Utah) that is played in a PAC 12 venue
will be televised because the PAC 12 controls the content of its network and
when it is a home stadium it controls the TV. So get ready BYU fans to shell
out the money for the PAC 12 network whether you like it or not. You see, the
genius of Larry Scott is he knew how to capture the BYU fan base and their money
without having to invite them into the conference.
Duck hunter and USA lover,I know you agree with me. Your just
arguing to be silly. No football fans I know bring up track and field every time
they are arguing for their football team. What a joke. Mentioning BYU track and
field competing against PAC 12 teams as a rebutle to me asking who they are
competing against while debating MWC titles totaly undose your argument. Pac 12 teams are not in the MWC last time I checked. So competing
against them has zero to do with MWC championships, against NO ONE. If you were competing in the PAC 12, which your not because the PAC 12 never
considered inviting BYU, you would not be winning conference championships.Wow, it's like arguing with a brick wall.
@phoenix "No, I typed it while wearing the "Utah-TCU
Biggest Game in Utah History" t-shirt I picked up for a nickle in the oil
rags bin at a local thrift shop."----------------------
You sound like the Ohio State coach... you now there are no such
t-shirts.However, I don't need to make anything up for your
preseason hype:From Deseret News archives:BYU football:
Provo celebrates stunning winPublished: Monday, Sept. 7, 2009PROVO People danced in the streets.They hugged perfect
strangers.They lit off fireworks.And in general, they
celebrated and celebrated and celebrated.For a city home to a
university that's won the title of "Most stone-cold sober" for 12
years in a row, Provo didn't look, act or feel like Provo Saturday evening.In the wake of BYU's stunning 14-13 upset over No. 3 Oklahoma,
spontaneous celebrations erupted throughout this city and lasted well into the
early hours of the morning on Sunday.
@USAloverAnd yet, with BYU excelling at Track and Field and
Volleyball, they were still left out to play by themselves.That's
just what happens when your football team hasn't done anything relevent to
anyone outside of Provo in 3 decades. Train Wreck = Something BYU
is still begging for. A Pac-12/Big-12 invite.
Good luck to Bro. Whittingham!
correctionFootballBYU 4Utah 4
Funny how the VERY FIRST comment on a ute article has to bring up the Bronc.Hey, Lifelong Ute, obsess much?!
forreal peopleSo, BYU can't count these MWC championships because
Utah doesn't "compete" in them?MWC Men's Regular Season
ChampionshipsBaseballBYU 1Utah 0Basketball
BYU 6Utah 5FootballBYU 4BYU 4Swimming & DivingBYU 6Utah 1TennisBYU 5Utah 1Yes, BYU and Utah are about even, except that BYU leads IN
EVERY SINGLE SPORT!(except football where BYU and Utah are tied)TotalBYU 22Utah 11
@westcoast1Even though your post was facitious you can verify it by
going into the article and clicking on the link to the story that this
originated from. The link will take you to the pac10 website where the story is
printed. On the bottom of that story there is another link which if you click on
it takes you to the "block u" website and there you will find the
exact same story which had been cut and pasted from the "block u" and
then posted on the pac10 site. So the "block u" guy made
some speculative article, with no sources, no back up, and to be honest he
didn't claim it was anything but speclation on his part, then the pac10 site cut
and pasted it to their site, then the dnews provided a link to it on their site,
and then people on here started acting as if there was really something to
it.Now in my opinion I think Kyle would be a great candidate for
that, or any, job. He is an excellent coach. But there is nothing to this one
yet, it is just a ute homer spreading speculation.
@RockwellYou just listed around 20 games over the next 6-7 years.That's about 30% of your schedule.Care to list the WAC teams
who will make up the remaining 70%?
News for Utah fans!!Track and field is an important PAC 12 sporting
event. You might want to start a team or something.Mock Volleyball
all you want, but it's not a laughing matter in the PAC 12. Utah will be.TRAIN WRECK!
@forreal people But of course you lying in your attempt to refute
what you claim is a lie might be the funniest thing I have ever read on these
boards.BYU's volleyball titles aren't counted in the tally of MWC
titles between BYU and utah because, get this.....BYU doesn't play men's
volleyball in the mwc. LOL!It isn't considered any part of that 140
something to only 40 something tally and wasn't counted as such.Nice
TRAIN WRECK!!! Can't wait. You studs had to block a field goal in the last
seconds AT HOME to beat an average BYU team, which beat you the year before.And do you want to talk about Basketball? Didn't think so...Top to bottom, BYU has a better sports program as evidenced by three times
(3X!!!) the amount of conference championships.Keep moving, nothing
to see here but a bloody TRAIN WRECK!
@wedgiewhittingham was not thought of, or even brought up as, a
viable candidate for the osu job. This originated on the "block u"
blog. That should tell you all you need to know but you'll pretend it is
actually viable anyway. LOL
willary"And Ute fans will not care. They'll be busy playing big
boy football while New Mexico State and BYU face off on BYUTV."At least you'll be able to watch BYU play New Mexico State on BYUtv so you'll
be able to comment on the game.But, you'll also be able to watch BYU
play big boy football against Mississippi, Texas, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Georgia
Tech, West Virginia, Syracuse, TCU, Wisconsin, Ohio State, UCLA, USC, Boise
State, and Penn State on ESPN.It's doubtful many BYU fans will be
shelling out $20 a month to catch Utah vs Washington State on the PAC 12
I have a different take on things. The better job for Urban is Athletics
Director at the U. Chris Hill will be retiring soon after a long stint on the
hill. It is a perfect job for Urban. He can be close to all the sports he
loves but not have the stress to recruit and run them. Urban would also be a
great fund raiser to build new facilities. Utah will have the money now to pay
top dollar for an Athletic Director and the coaches. I say get Urban Meyer
lined up to take over for Chris Hill.
forreal people"Are you just being dishonest on purpose? Or, are
you unaware of the fact that the title count is virtually equal when you throw
out sports that Utah does NOT COMPETE IN?"That's gotta be one
of the most absurd arguments ever made. BYU can't count championships that the
Utes don't even bother competing in because, obviously, if the Utes aren't
competing, they aren't legitimate championships.BYU's men's
volleyball championships were won competing against the likes of UCLA, USC and
Stanford in the best volleyball conference in the country. BYU's men's and
women's track and field championships were won with hundreds of athletes who
have gone on to compete and win in the NCAA national championship meet.We'll see your #1 picks (one of them a bust), and raise you a Heisman Trophy
winner, a Super Bowl winning MVP, and a three-time NBA champion (2 as a player,
1 as a GM).BYU has won multiple individual and team national
championships in both track & field and men's volleyball.What
have U done besides abandon track & field because Utah couldn't compete?
Funny how the fans of 'coat-tail Community college' can talk about BCS
membership, prestige, and Money, but they just can't comment without mentioning
BYU! I understand....With BYU the premiere University in the state, it just pops
into your thoughts and onto your comments naturally.Funny thing
about habits that come 'Naturally'....It comes from acts or situations occurring
repetitiously over a period of time, as in BYU domination!
WestCoast1Utah's basketball history is well-known, which is why the
train wreck that would follow Kyle leaving Utah's football program would feel so
at ease with the train wreck that is already Utah's basketball program.The biggest difference is, unlike Utah's football program, Utah's basketball
program existed before 2004.
@USAlover,"MWC championships the last 10 years:BYU:
142Utah: 45"Are you just being dishonest on purpose? Or,
are you unaware of the fact that the title count is virtually equal when you
throw out sports that Utah does NOT COMPETE IN? DUHH. Who are you competing
against in the 100 mens track and field titles? Gloat to whoever that is,
because its not Utah. I don't think you are fooling anyone on this chat board.
-basketball & football- equal titles. Oh, except for the tie breaker - Utah
BB going to final four in the MWC and Utah football going undefeted twice. Oh,
another tie breaker - Utah has two #1 overall picks in the MWC. Oh, another tie
breaker - utah has had more NFL and NBA draft pics in the MWC. Not
even close, get over it. Find someone else to celebrate your track and field and
mens volly ball titles with you.
@USAloverCouple things.First, I was going to breakdown
what teams have won WCC titles the last 10 years, but like everyone in the
country, NOBODY CARES! WCC?Second, how many conference
championships do you predict BYU football to win over the next decade? I guess
they could run down to Joe's Trophy's and have some made. Because outside of
that, they will beat their 6-7 WAC teams a year, get another 1-2 wins, play in
the Kraft Fight Hunger Armed Forces Bowl against a mid-level BCS team, have no
players named to any All-Conference teams, win zero Conference titles, play in
zero BCS bowls, and basically continue to be irrelevant.And Ute fans
will not care. They'll be busy playing big boy football while New Mexico State
and BYU face off on BYUTV.
Why is Bronco not considered? That's because his style is so BYU and he's happy
there. Besides, OSU might be worried that Bronco would change the football team
into a BYU-type model as far as morals go, and they don't want that. Bronco
would be considered as a defensive coordinator, but not as a head coach in many
places.OSU would be an excellent place to coach, but I don't see
Kyle being picked over several other big name coaches.
Be careful what you wish for hedgy. The Buckeyes hiring KWhit would be your
worst nightmare. BYU's chief antagonist would be crippled and Michigan's chief
antagonist would escape more serious sanctions.
Whit is not leaving for a east coast college job. He was offered the Tennessee
job, and turned it down. Now if USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon some day come
calling, or say an NFL coordinator position, I think he'd look.
Kyle Whittingham's name gets mentioned for jobs quite a bit. And it is
well-earned (33-6 over the last three years). But not for this job. This is
just speculation. If he is on OSU's radar, his name is most likely in the 20's.
Utah just has not quite done enough yet to get him to that kind of level. Which is fine by me, he is the best coach in the state and a perfect
coach for the Utes.
hh"How can these elite BCS program continue to pass on Bronco
as if he doesn't exist?"Because these elite programs know that
Bronco would run a clean program.
MWC championships the last 10 years:BYU: 142Utah: 45Enjoy the Pac 12 because Cougar fans are going to LOVE watching the train
Thank you, "duckhunter", for your insight as to the reliability of
this rumor. Your perspective certainly puts a different light on the
subject.And to "mussing around", your name is obviously
inspired by the tremendous Ute student section. Yet you say "Utah's
basketball program wouldn't have to feel like such an outcast anymore."
Those are interesting comments aimed at a program that has 9 Sweet Sixteen
appearances, 4 Final Four appearances, and an NCAA National Championship. Your
comments would be especially interesting if you are a supporter of the team in
Provo with 1 Sweet Sixteen appearance, 0 Final Four appearances, and 0 National
Kyle turned down the Tennessee job to stay at Utah. And before you start talking
about top 5 coaching jobs, I would advise you to make that statement while
considering pay. You might be surprised where Tennessee ends up, top 10 hands
down. So no, Kyle is not interested. Urban was, he took the Florida job. Kyle
was not, he turned down the Tennessee job. And Bronco? What a joke. He wont be
considered because he is not a high profile coach. Whittingham is viewed as a
top candidate for many coaching jobs every time they open. Too bad that the
stepping stone community college had the highest paid and highest profile coach
in the MWC. Jealous BYU fans need to give the U and Kyle some credit
on this topic. Not only did Kyle turn down the Tennessee job when he was
somebody, he turned down the BYU job when he was nobody. Chris
Peterson, Kyle Whittingham, will always be considered for big jobs. Get over it
BYU fan. We have a head to head to settle this argument. Kyle turned down the Y
for a much, much, better job.
Although I don't think Kwhitt would be interest in the OSU job it does bring up
the questions; Why is Kwhitt always thought of as a viable candidate for elite
BCS games and not bronco?From what i've read on these posts, bronco
is the far superior innovative coach including the much published cutting edge
nutritional program.How can these elite BCS program continue to pass
on bronco as if he doesn't exist?
Sorry, I live in Columbus and attend Ohio State...Whittingham is not anywhere on
the radar. Meyer is the top prospect because he's still young, he's available,
and he had deep roots to Ohio and Ohio State. Others on the list, in descending
order: Bob Stoops-OU (won't happen), Bo Pelini-NU. After that, an additional
pool with Gary Patterson-TCU, Chris Petersen-BSU, Mark Stoops-FSU. Of course,
the interim coach, Luke Fickell, also has a good shot at proving himself this
year. By the way, Petersen isn't thrown in there for good measure,
as you indicate. Unlike Whittingham, he will actually receive some
consideration for the job.
UteologyNo, I typed it while wearing the "Utah-TCU Biggest Game
in Utah History" t-shirt I picked up for a nickle in the oil rags bin at a
local thrift shop.
JJJHS"the Ohio State job is going to be horrible once the NCAA
gets done with them"Yes, the NCAA is so mad at [Ohio State], it
will probably slap another two years' probation on Cleveland State.-
i think whittingham gets a solid look, especially if utah meets or exceeds
expectations this year in their first pac 12 season. remember, he did turn down
double his salary at tennessee, was on the short list at miami, and did receive
interest from florida's AD after urban left. whittingham's roots in the western
half of the country are too deep though to pack up and jump ship to the
midwest.bronco is a great coach but, like whittingham, his roots are
too deep in the byu program, plus i don't think he fits the ohio state mold.
he'd be perfect for the job if ohio state wanted a clean up guy though, but i
don't think there's much prospect in OSU going after bronco.
Lifelong UteIt would be interesting to watch the sheer panic on the
hill if Kyle actually did become a serious candidate for the Ohio State job.Shades of Rick Majerus leaving the U. At least Utah's
basketball program wouldn't have to feel like such an outcast anymore.
@phoenixCongratulations to the Utes on winning another pre-season
national championship! ------------Did you type that
while waring your "Quest" t-shirt or watching your home videos of the
Provo airport celebration for a 1-0 team?Don't think KW will move on
but I do think UM will be interested in the job and if the NFL doesn't call
might see him in Ohio next year.As far as the #22 ranking means
nothing, this team has several question marks so lets wait until after USC.
"phoenix | 12:41 p.m. May 31, 2011 Gilbert, AZLifelong UteOhio State is one of the top 5 coaching jobs in all of college sports.
"Wake up and smell the postum, the Ohio State job is going to
be horrible once the NCAA gets done with them.
Rarely do any of these rumors pan out. It's all just fodder so that sports
reporters don't have to do as much real reporting, and so that guys on ESPN have
something to debate about for 10 minutes to fill up their hour time slot!
I do not see Ohio State as a good option for Whit or Meyer. As far as current
college head coaches, outside of Saban... I would take Boise's Petersen
I doubt he'll even be a consideration for the OSU job. Some unsubstantiated
speculation by a site like the "block u" is hardly credible. Nice of
them to try and start rumors to make them seem relevent but LOL and even more
LOL at lifelong ute for thinking a ute homer website like "block u"
starting rumors is anything more than it is.
@lifelong BCS? Then why does anything BYU come up in your thoughts?
Gotta laugh at these Ute fans. Put them in a BCS league, but still stuck with
the little brother mentality. Whittingham is always a candidate for
openings because everyone knows Utah is a stepping stone community college. It's
only a matter of time before he leaves for bigger and better opportunities.As for Bronco and BYU? Well, when your coaching one of the premiere
programs in college Football, going anywhere else would be a big step down.
@Lifelong UteNo Bronco is not mentioned because OSU cannot and will
not have a "clean" program.
Lifelong Ute"Now that we're in a BCS league I don't see
Whittingham showing too much interest in other programs,..."Who
are you kidding? Ohio State is one of the top 5 coaching jobs in all
of college sports. The only reason Kyle wouldn't consider the Ohio State job is
because he'll never be considered for the Ohio State job.-------------------------------------Congratulations to the Utes
on winning another pre-season national championship!
Coach Witt's name is going to come up for other jobs, but I think he is
committed to guiding the Utes to success in the PAC-12.The article
claiming Urban Meyer is not the right man for the Ohio State job is interesting
and makes some good points. I believe Meyer is done coaching, unless he has
figured out a release for the stress. If he comes back without that, the stress
literally will kill him or he will be retiring again after a season or two when
his health problems return.
Now that we're in a BCS league I don't see Whittingham showing too much interest
in other programs, although he will be pursued by top notch programs. Any word if bronco is a candidate? Didn't think so.