go for it, nothing better than a moderate, it's just what we need, someone
reasonable, and moderation in religious views is also a positive.
@Charles | 1:26 p.m. May 28, 2011I've been a republican since the
70's. I know what I'm talking about. At this juncture, I refuse to vote for
most of those in my own party that trample on the foundations of the party. Why
don't you extreme right wing loonies start your own party.
FurryCould you specifically tell me what Clinton did to turn around
the economy, as you say?
To Cats | 7:16 a.m. May 28, 2011 You're re-writing history to fit
your wishes concerning what happened with President Clinton. Sorry, Cats, your
construction is totally wrong. Reagan had nothing to do with President
Clinton's economic success. The economy was failing as Reagan left office, and
totally stagnated during George Herbert Walker Bush's term in office. Clinton
turned the economy around, and made it work very well. Also, in case you don't
want to remember, President Clinton fought Gingrich and his cohorts to a
sandstill when President Clinton wanted to retain a higher tax rate even though
here was a financial surplus, and use the excess funds to balance the budget and
reduce the federal debt. Gingrich wanted to run up deficits while giving the
money back to the well-to-do. I am grateful that President Clinton
won. He was a totally wretched person, but a very good President. We need more
like him . . . and NOT like any of the Republicans running for president in 2012
(except, of course, Governor Huntsman, who is the only decent the candidate the
"not an easy decision" or "tough to define" ...These recent quotes by Huntsman are not giving me easy feelings about him
leading our nation.Go Mitt!!
I just saw the latest CNN/opinion research poll taken after Huckabee and Trump
gave up. Romney is at 15%, Palin is right behind, but Guliani is leading with
16%. They also asked who your 2nd choice was and Romney had 15% of those and
Guliani had 14% and Palin was right there too. So... Guliani is statistically
tied with Romney and Palin even though Guliani has not even been running much.
Next thing, Guliani now says he is going to N.H. to test the waters. PS:
Huntsman just got 1%. I find these poll numbers astonishing. Guliani was
famously an adulterer. He never won even one primary, and only had the funds to
really go after one race, in Florida and did not win. I suspect that people who
are choosing Guliani over Romney are saying, anybody but Romney. Bachmann and
Pawlenty must be crying right this minute. They came in after Cain who got 10%.
Paul got 12%. So Bachmann and Pawlenty are not even in the top five
nationally, although the bandwagon effect may kick in if one of them wins Iowa.
real maverick:Nothing screams easy Obama win for 2012 than a GOP ticket of
Romney, Palin, or Newt (basically all the current leaders for the GOP's ticket).
It just goes to show the current state of that party. Lost and out
of touch.No solutionsNo relevanceNo victory in 2012Really?what solutions from the demos, spend everyone else's
moneydemos relevance? spending, taxing, changing....all that was goodwe will see. glad you are so sure.
The sequence of events in the Huntsman saga are off-putting for me. I find it
distasteful that so soon after his interview with Time magazine in which he
stated he still needed to do his due diligence before he would be comfortable
answering the pressing questions of our day - he went to the K Street
lobbyists. Now you might say, he was 'just' seeking financial backing for his
run. Or you might say he was asking the corporate representatives what
positions he needed to take, in order to get financial backing for his run. I
love many of his statements, when he was willing to speak out. I would feel more
comfortable with him than with Bachmann who speaking for a world divided, and I
prefer Huntsman to Romney and Pawlenty, both of whom strike me as being willing
to say anything, to get elected. But I doubt Huntsman is really prepared.
Maybe next time. I would rather have him in the White House than the characters
we will be choosing among, but I dont see him being ready for the run. The
whole process seems out of hand, since the first primary is NEXT year.
PeanutGallery, where is your evidence that Huntsman says/does what is popular,
or offends the fewest people? Was it support of liquor laws which were against
the LDS church's position? His support for civil unions when most citizens were
against it? His pushing through the four day work week when many didn't want
it? LivinLarge, so anecdotal evidence is your basis? Your sister
has never heard of the U.S. Ambassador to the 2nd most powerful nation in the
world? Never heard of a man whom the President of the United States has
mentioned several times? Does that say more about Romney, or your sister?
Is he going to challenge Obama for the Democratic nomination? That is where he
belongs, certainly not on the Republican ticket. We had that last time with the
nomination of Democrat Lite, McCain. Cap and Trade, illegal alien amnesty, the
list goes on with this RINO. Who needs him? We already have his boss, Obama,,,
who needs another radical liberal? We may as well keep the one we have.
Huntsman is a nice guy with some real talents in the commerce field and did a
good job as Ambassador. He might be cabinet member material (Commerce?) but he
is not Presidential material.Good hair and the ability to bend your
positions on issues to suit the latest poles, and the inability to tell us how
bad the other side's programs have hurt us are not qualities we need. His
favoring "cap and trade" is one of the most repulsive aspects of this
chameleon's performances.He was a mediocre governor at best, never
leading, just drifting with the winds of politics. We don't need
another RINO candidate, we need a true conservative!
The pundits treat him as an afterthought...he is an absolute unknown outside of
Utah! My sister lives in San Diego with her husband and family and has never
heard of him
Nothing screams easy Obama win for 2012 than a GOP ticket of Romney, Palin, or
Newt (basically all the current leaders for the GOP's ticket). It
just goes to show the current state of that party. Lost and out of touch.No solutionsNo relevanceNo victory in 2012
dave said, "The GOP has been corrupted and will continue to be a sideshow
until they swing back towards center where true Republicans reside."I'd like you to lay out the issues and where "true
Republicans" should reside on each one of them.It's always
interesting to hear Democrats tell conservatives that in order to be relevant we
basically have to adopt their positions.So dave, are you able to lay
out 10 issues and tell us all where "true Republicans" are supposed to
reside and why?
I see Huntsman as a reasonable politician who will work with others. I, for
one, am tired of extreme politics, tired of leaders, whether they be from the
left or right, that just want to call each other names and be strident in their
positions. Huntsman has enough business acumen to get our economy going. He has
enough compassion to listen to others. I hope he seizes on what I see as
potential unique opportunity that appeals to the centrists of our country who
want reasonable government and expects our politicians to work together to solve
problems. I'm sick of party line votes on everything, we need someone who has
the potential to bring our country together.
Mr. Huntsman,Please don't run! We don't need another RINO in this race.
Last time around we put forth a favorite of yours- Mr. McCain, yet another RINO,
and look how that turned out. Please do the country a favor- don't run, and stay
out of politics.
Huntsman is exactly the kind of person we DON'T need for president, especially
not now. We need a president who consistently makes his decisions based on our
founding principles of freedom and limited government. We need a president who
clearly states his core principles, and stands up for them.Huntsman
is a politician of convenience--not principle--which puts him all over the map.
In other words, he makes his decisions based not on what's right, but instead
based on which "group" he can most safely afford to offend. That's a
sandy foundation which shifts frequently, and normally results in bigger
government, less freedom, lower standards, and economic uncertainty.
Ouch, there is a lot of religious litmus tests mentioned today. Does anyone
else see it?
What I would like to see Huntsman do is sit out the Republican primary and let
the Republicans nominate what is likely their extreme right candidate and the
Democrats of course renominate Obama. Then he should run as a third party
candidate perhaps with a Democrat running mate who has centrist leanings. I
think this candidacy would go much further than any Perot candidacy (and he got
nearly 20% of the popular vote in 1992). I think Romney could do the same thing
if he lost in primaries. I think Huntsman with the right VP candidate could
actually win. I think the people are sick of extreme politics. I think the
people want somebody with a proven record of solid leadership. And Huntsman
with the right person at VP, appealing to the middle who is basically ignored in
our current political landscape, could actually pull something off radically
changing the face of American politics.
Could it be Huntsman's plan is to run for the GOP nomination, lose, and then
accept Obama's invitation to run as VP in 2012 - in a grand gesture of mutual
"bi-partisanship"?That's a far more likely path to the
White House for him than simply running now with an eye on the 2016 GOP nod.
Cats: All Mitt Romney has over Jon Huntsman is name recognition. I have to say
I actually like them both. Jon Huntsman however, has more personality and
charisma in front of a crowd, and consequently, may have broader appeal. I'm
still unsure if Jon Huntsman's goals is 2016, but I think his potential is being
underestimated. I have a ton of non-LDS friends that think Jon Huntsman is
awesome. I can't say the same about Mitt.
I think Jon ought to give it a go and run. He has as good a chance to win as
Romney does, perhaps better. As far as money goes, Jon has all he needs right
Dear ExDixieIte: What your 40lK loved was the years that the Republicans took
over in Congress and dragged Clinton kicking and screaming toward a balanced
budget. Clinton always seems to get credit for the prosperity in the ninties
when it was really Reagan's good work along with the new Republican Congress
that took over in the '94 election.Look, Jon Huntsman doesn't have a
snowball's chance of winning--at least not in 2012 and probably never. He DOES
have a grudge against Mitt because Mitt was chosen over him to be the head of
the 2002 Olympics. That's petty and immature.I hope he'll decide
not to run.
I'm new to Utah, but the more I read about Jon Huntsman the more I LOVE him.
What I don't LOVE is reading comments all over the web by members of the LDS
church questioning his Mormonism. What ever happened to David O. McKay's big
tent religion? I don't think Huntsman is being wishy-washy about being Mormon
at all. It's just clear his sense of spirituality is nuanced and complex. I see a lot of Christianity in Huntsman's desire to find the good in
other cultures, religions, and people. I love that President Holland said in an
interview with PBS that we should be claiming even those who like the Book of
Mormon but don't believe in it's divinity. There are a broad spectrum of beliefs
within the church, people. I don't know what Huntsman thinks about
every doctrinal issue, but I don't care. As a Mormon, human being, and person
that's sick of partisan politics, I would be proud to call Jon Huntsman my
brother and President.
Don't forget. In 1991 George HW Bush had a 90% approval rating, there was
little chance for any Democrat to have a snowball's chance to win. So the
strategy of the Democratic party was to trot out this kid named Clinton who had
HUGE charisma (as does Huntsman), get name recognition and then beat Quayle when
he tried to run in 1996. Well, in the meantime, the economy tanked,
Ross Perot jumped in and we wound up with Bill Clinton as President. I'm pretty
neutral when it comes to political parties but I do know that my 401k LOVED the
Clinton years regardless of his morals. Is Huntsman thinking the
same thing? Probably. Could Huntsman win this year. It's the economy, stupid.
If it tanks he could win Would I mind Jon, Jr. as President? No. He's a
moderate that can appeal to both sides of the aisle. Will he win? Probably not
with the Rush & Tea Partiers if the nation which will probably give the seat
back to Obama.
stay out of the race. You can not beat Obama. Support Romney. Mit in 2012
Jon Huntsman is the best hope we have to get our American mojo back.
For those that think Huntsman is too far left to be a Republican I have some
news. Today's Republican party would be too extreme right to accept Reagan. Like
Reagan said about the Democrat party: "I never left the party, the party
left me.The GOP has been corrupted and will continue to be a
sideshow until they swing back towards center where true Republicans reside.
Huntsman is the real deal: Intelligent, savvy, photogenic, not to mention slick.
But I seriously doubt he'll run in 2012, if ever. Diplomacy is his thing and he
wants to be Secretary of State (even if he serves in a Romney administration).
He may continue to make noise for the next few weeks gathering a little more
support and money. And all the while he'll be handicapping the real candidates
to decide the front runner who will give him what he really wants in exchange
for his support. Or so I believe.
@XelaDave"he runs because it positions him for '16- Has worked
for many presidential hopefulls" False. Niether Obama, Bush, or
Clinton didn't follow this path. In fact, the last person that really worked
for was Reagan. And, ha ha, Huntsman is NO Reagan.I am surprised
that Huntsman is seriously considering jumping into this. He is the lightest of
the lightweights. I don't mean that to be rude. It just true. There is no
reason to waste the money.
He says the decision whether to run is not easy? A look at opinion polls (only
2-3% backing Huntsman) should make the decision not to run very easy.
This decision is easy...if you want to lose, then run.
Junior will not run for 2012. He doesn't have the name recognition other than
being a "sort-of" Ambassador to China for a very short period of time.
If he cannot handle the tepid heat when asked about his religious beliefs,
he can't handle much of anything else either. He's a political liability to any
party at present. He needs to mature (grow up)politically instead of trying to
Who is he talking to in the photo - Elder Dallin H. Oaks?
KM - Romney is not progressive?? Health care, abortion, gay rights, cap and
trade? Look at his record/past statements not his temple recommend.
Let's see, from the other article I just read about Huntsman, he's got the
"model family." So, of course they're going to make the model decision
to run if, for no other reason, then to divert any leeway Mit has going for him.
The two are long-time nemesis, more on Hunstman's end than Romney's. Huntsman
needs to get over the personal grudge he's held against Mit since the SL Winter
Olympics snub. Also, I like how Romney can readily define his church membership
& religion. Good, bad or indifferent, you know where Mit stands about his
LDS faith. Hunstman ......?
I say he runs but nor really because he feels he can win the nomination in 2012-
he runs because it positions him for '16- Has worked for many presidential
hopefulls- get your name out there build a base in Iowa and NH and even SC and
then build on that for 4 years later- backfires if your party wins that year a
little but given his name recognition and other factors it is his best shot if
he is serious about the presdiency
If he views being 'mormon' as his 'heritage' not his faith then he didn't answer
the question ... or perhaps he did and he's the decendant of mormons.I personally don't like any hint of a 'religion test' for political office. I
do believe that his values should be open for discussion as they affect the
basis for his decisions which are very much part of the political discussion.
A presidential candidate wearing a denim jacket.He has my vote!
Huntsman made up his mind to run for president years ago. I just wish he would
seek the demo nomination as he is not much of a republican.
Please, no. No more proressive republicans like McCain running for president.
Besides Romeny is more qualified than any other candidate to fix the economy of