Red roundup: Harvey Langi in battle for starting RB job


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  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    May 26, 2011 11:07 p.m.

    Langi is clearly the best of the bunch, but Freshmen rarely do well when they're forced into action.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    May 26, 2011 12:01 a.m.

    @ hegdehog

    You know the utes will be taken behind the woodshed for a classic beating on September 17? Witnessed by all on National TV.

    You know this, right?

    Nevermind... Just mark it down!

  • Jute19 Poop, UT
    May 25, 2011 9:58 p.m.

    Lot of comedians on this board. Lets just keep the comments to the topic of the article(s). The random banter from all of the cougar fans is getting a little old. I don't care if there are Ute trolls on the coug articles. If you think it's such a problem why do you insist on coming on these boards and making ridiculous comments?

  • showmeyatd's Pleasant View, Utah
    May 25, 2011 2:20 p.m.

    Hedgehog's new name is Beef Curtains everyone. Remember that.

  • Captain Sweatpants Hampstead, NC
    May 25, 2011 2:12 p.m.

    You've got to pace yourselves, Girls. The season is still over three months away!

  • showmeyatd's Pleasant View, Utah
    May 25, 2011 2:12 p.m.

    Has the countdown clock started for when Norm Chow will be Canned? I'm guessing mid season in 2012. The definition of insanity is doing the same things repeatedly expecting a different result. That result is Norm getting fired from his last 3 jobs. I'd be worried if I was U. Oh and for those of you who will throw up his accomplishments. Ya I agree he used to be a great coach but hey.. Push lawn mowers used to be great to:)

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    May 25, 2011 1:58 p.m.


    Compared to Heaps, Wynn is still a Freshman.

    Final 6 games of Heaps' Freshman season - 14 TD passes.
    Entire year of Wynn's Sophomore season - 17 TD passes.

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    May 25, 2011 1:55 p.m.


    your obsession has reached an unhealthy level.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 25, 2011 1:21 p.m.


    So what exactly do you expect from utah's offense this year?

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 25, 2011 12:50 p.m.


    "--he's got a thin offensive line that could be decimated by just a couple of injuries"

    Please name a team in the country who could withstand losing multiple starters on the O-Line? Last years champ had the same starting O-Line all year.

    "and next to nothing on the bench as far as a backup QB."

    Again, name a team in the country who would not be in trouble if their starting QB went down? Think Riley Nelson could step in for Jake Heaps with no downturn?

    "he's got an injured starting QB who hasn't proven that he'll ever be able to throw well enough to run Chow's offense, let alone master it"

    Sorry, when did a healthy Jordan Wynn prove he won't be able to run a system he hasn't had the chance to run yet? I this fact gets lost with Cougar fans, but look at what a healthy Jordan Wynn did his Freshman season, compared to Jake Heaps. Very similar, if not favoring Wynn. If healthy, he'll be just fine.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    May 25, 2011 10:40 a.m.


    "Oh you gotta love the Duck throwing out more garbage this morning."

    Yes, it's always "garbage" when a non-red-koolaid drinker talks about reality.

    The message of doom and gloom for Utah's offense was starkly revealed in spring practice. Despite what the kids on the hill make think, Chow isn't a miracle worker.

    --he's got an injured starting QB who hasn't proven that he'll ever be able to throw well enough to run Chow's offense, let alone master it, and next to nothing on the bench as far as a backup QB

    --he's got a completely new backfield with no experience

    --he's got a thin offensive line that could be decimated by just a couple of injuries

    Chow's offense relies on precise timing and correct reads.

    And this is all supposed to come together in just a few short weeks in August?

    Can Utah's usually reliable defense really keep the Utes in games if Utah's offense can't score?

    See TCU, Notre Dame and BSU last year.

  • hohum Saint George, UT
    May 25, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    As I stated on the post about the punt job of the bcs. The big bad pac10 scheduled such power house teams like, Northern Arizona, La Layfette, UC Davis, Fresno, Presbyterian, Missouri State, San Jose State, Eastern Washington, Idaho State, UNLV,SDSU, Montana State, Colorado State, Hawaii to name a few. They avoided any mid majors that were on the same level, how bad is that.

    Ute posts refer to the BYU loss to USU, when do the utes play the aggies again?

    Anyway, luck to all the utah teams, bring some honor to the state.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 25, 2011 9:24 a.m.


    Oh you gotta love the Duck throwing out more garbage this morning.

    You sure paint a bleak picture for Utah this year. Apparently that message of doom and gloom hasn't made it past the bubble down south yet. Publications continue to put Utah in their preseason top 25, even with the rag-tag group of players you list. But that's just the evil liberal media once again trying to stick it to BYU!

    Jordan Wynn: 11-4 as a starter.

    Jake "The Savior" Heaps: 6-5 as a starter.

    If 11-4 is mediocre, what is 6-5? With a loss @ Utah State?

  • Chris Bryant SLC, UT
    May 25, 2011 9:19 a.m.

    Exciting time to be a Ute fan. Next year is going to be fun.

    -Running back is a question mark. But there is talent there. Under Norm Chow's leadership, those talents should be able to thrive. My hope is that the team does not abandon the run as early as we did last year.

    -Wynn's health is obviously a big question mark. When healthy, Wynn can be pretty good. He will have a lot of weapons to throw to this year. With going away from the spread, there is less playing time available at WR. This will increase competition and hopefully the right guys emerge.

    -The O-Line will be deeper than last year. We have a lot of guys coming in who will be able to pick up the slack. I think Stevens will be great at center, but I am worried about replacing Schlauderoff. John Cullen was merely adequate last year; he needs to step it up.

    GO UTES!

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    May 25, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    Actually Bo J, BYU held Utah to 56 yards on the ground in 2007, similar to what happened last year with BYU and the Utes.

    Still, your two all conference backs couldn't even combine for 100 yards on the ground last year against the Cougars.

    Don't be so sure that BYU will struggle to run the ball this year. BYU doesn't have to rely on the run game with the way Jake Heaps will be able to throw downfield with Cody Hoffman AND Ross Apo this year (see the Utah-SDSU game last year), and this time the game is at OUR house. That will open up huge holes for the run game.

    And hedge, don't be too overly confident in the Utah run defense. Utah knew BYU would rely on the run last year and their game plan was to stop the run and make Jake Heaps beat them with his arm, which he almost did to the tune of 283 yards passing. If that is Utah's game plan again this year they WILL lose. I'm thinking you'll see different numbers for the Cougs on the ground this year.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    May 25, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    Well someone has to be the starter so it may as well be langi. But any ute fan pretending that the rb position is not a big concern this year is delusional. I guaranty whittingham and chow are concerned about it. The backfield consists of a jc transfer (LOL), a freshman, and a rugby player, none of which has ever had a single D1 carry. All of this with a mediocre qb who just had surgery and won't even practice until fall camp behind a diminished oline with little depth all while instituting a new offense.

    For the record I think langi will eventually be a stud but he is a freshman and all of those other factors are simply the reality of utahs offense.

    6-6 would be a spectacularly successful season for the utes.

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    May 25, 2011 8:07 a.m.

    I am excited for Langi to start, watched him play Viewmont his junior year and he look like a man playing against of bunch of little boys.
    @ MichiganCoog
    I think most Ute fans are laughing at your comments right now.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 25, 2011 8:01 a.m.


    "you see, New Mexico, UNLV, Colorado State are no longer on your schedule, to run your national ranking up to number 5."

    Let me make an obvious statement here. Playing the garbage teams of the MWC did inflat Utah's ranking last season. They were clearly not a top 5 team by season's end.

    On the other hand, BYU also played those same garbage MWC teams. Yet finished 7-6? While losing to Utah State?

    So would your contention be that playing the garbage MWC teams inflatted BYU's record also? They weren't even as good as their awful 7-6 record showed?

  • T-Mac Meridian, ID
    May 25, 2011 7:38 a.m.

    Mich Coog,

    Thats right New Mexico, UNLV, Colorado State are no longer on the Utes schedule... they have been replaced with New Mexico State, Idaho and Idaho State... Oh wait that's BYU schedule. Enjoy your $4MM, WAC teams, WCC teams and Tuesday night games

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 25, 2011 4:58 a.m.

    Bo Jangles/Hedgie/or whoever,

    I hope for your sake that a true freshman, a converted rugby player, and a shaky Jordan Wynn prove to be effective, because if they don't, UTe fans will have alot of crow to eat this coming fall...After what Utah's spring game looked like, I'd be very worried...you see, New Mexico, UNLV, Colorado State are no longer on your schedule, to run your national ranking up to number 5. Then when the reality sets in (see the last 5 games of your Utes last fall w/ a supposed veteran team), and you'll see a horrifying scene...prepare for some humbling times ahead...6-6 is going to become a regular type of season...Enjoy your $21 Mil, no TV time, and you place next to WSU in the cellar of the PAC10.2.

  • Bo Jangles Meridian, ID
    May 24, 2011 11:56 p.m.

    When was the last time BYU held Utah to less than 30 yards rushing? Perhaps it was way back in the year 194..... NEVER.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    May 24, 2011 11:21 p.m.

    Can't wait for the season to start. Really excited about seeing Langi play.

    @Bottom Line

    The same could be said for Hypes as a freshman starter. Yet, I doubt Utah will finish 6-6 like BYU did as a mid-major.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 24, 2011 11:18 p.m.


    "This game means the same as Montana State to the Utes."


    Just keep telling yourself that every hour on the hour and you might actually start believing it someday.

    On the other hand, we all know that you'll be having nightmares for the rest of the season if the Utes can't pulloff the upset in LES on September 17th.

  • bookonwomen Beverly Hills, CA
    May 24, 2011 11:04 p.m.

    Word is Tauni Vakapuna and Shawn Asiata are coming back next year.

  • Jimmy James Salt Lake City, Ut
    May 24, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    The Deseret News needs a "chalk it up" board so people can be held accountable for their predictions. (See previous comments.)

    If you are right, you will get the praise you deserve. If you are wrong, yeah, you know what's coming.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    May 24, 2011 10:36 p.m.

    The bottom line is this is a testament to the lack of depth at running back not the quality of Langi. Just think for a minute when in the last 10 years a frosh at the U was a clear cut starter at running back.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    May 24, 2011 9:19 p.m.

    No doubt that Langi is the leader and one to watch.

    Hailstoned... your rugby player got less than 10 yds during the Red / White game. You know how to pick 'em.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    May 24, 2011 9:17 p.m.

    hedgehog | 7:03 p.m. May 24, 2011
    Ann Arbor, MI

    "You do realize that outside of Montana State and Colorado - BYU will be the worst backfield the Utes will face next fall.

    You do know this..right?"

    Well... You know you forgot when the Utes practice... Right?

    A freshman and a rugby player?

    You do know this... Right?

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    May 24, 2011 9:12 p.m.

    People are funny. No matter what an article is, whether a BYU or Utah article, it turns into the back and forth. I'm a Y fan and say to both sides, "Grow up."

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2011 9:11 p.m.

    Utah's running backs will live or die based on the ofensive line play.

    About the season tick price increases. Utah had to do it in an attempt to key up with the other schools. No TV contract money in 2011, only half in 2012 and so on really puts the Ute budget far behind the other schools. Utah needs huge numbers in football, basketball and the red rocks, their three main cash cows.

    It is very important for Utes fans to support the teams, win, lose or draw.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 24, 2011 8:32 p.m.

    Keep dreaming Ute-fans, my cougs will embarrass your Utes on your only National TV appearance this fall. We'll all be laughing when Montana State beats your overrated Utes on your home field, and USC welcomes you to the PAC10.2 with a torching. BYU will then rush for more than 150 yards (or more) on your boys...good luck reaching 6-6 record this fall!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 24, 2011 7:48 p.m.

    Snack PAC,

    Again, maybe the third worst wr's the Utes will face next year.

    This game means the same as Montana State to the Utes.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    May 24, 2011 7:20 p.m.


    You do realize that Utah's defense will have more than the Utes can handle just trying to control BYU's receivers?

    You do know this... right?

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    May 24, 2011 7:03 p.m.


    You do realize that outside of Montana State and Colorado - BYU will be the worst backfield the Utes will face next fall.

    You do know this..right?

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 24, 2011 5:55 p.m.


    Correction. You're actually thinking of BYU's ground attack last year at RES. 26 carries, 66 yards. 2.5 YPC.

    And it won't be any better next time around. Mark my words...

  • Alpha Chicken Orem, UT
    May 24, 2011 5:40 p.m.

    Langi looks good especially for a freshman. I too am excited to see Palamo also. There is some real potential there and he is only a sophmore. White has some good experience and comes in with impressive numbers from the JC areas. I suspect there will be some kinks to work out but this is a great group considering there transition to a different offense.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    May 24, 2011 5:26 p.m.

    "Langi is tough as nails,..." until he meets USC and BYU's LB corp...he'll not gain more than 30 yards on Sept. 17th...mark my words...

  • Jeff29 Cedar City, UT
    May 24, 2011 5:25 p.m.

    I sure wish he had headed south...

  • UtahUte16 Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    Langi is tough as nails, he will do well if he can get some good blocking. I'm excited to see Palamo get some action. I've watched some of his rugby videos and man does he have some kick. Knowing Kwhitt, this team will be prepared come opening kickoff. This offense will mesh with Wynn a lot better than a spread offense in my opinion. If the offense clicks, look for the Utes to compete for the south division immediately.

    Anything anyone on these boards say about the upcoming season is pure speculation. Only time will tell, but for now it's fun to dissect the facts.

  • factcheck Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    Not a Ute fan, but saw Langi a few times in HS. If he can keep things in order off the field, he will be a total stud. He can flat out play. Run, block catch.

  • flynn is the coolest Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2011 3:38 p.m.

    Let's hope Harvey is nothing like Reggie Bush- off the field.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    May 24, 2011 3:35 p.m.

    I think Palamo is going to surprise a lot of people. He has got some real powerful legs and that Rugby background shows he can take a hit and still carry 2-3 guys for extra yards. All in all a good backfield made even better with Coach Norm as OC.

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    May 24, 2011 1:11 p.m.

    I'm sure glad I got my tickets! This season is going to be awesome.

  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    May 24, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    I renewed my 12 reserved seats (6 home games, 2 sets) for $950.00. That is $79.17 per ticket per game. I hope the University can sock some money away so that a bigger stadium can be built.

  • Ken Sandy, UT
    May 24, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    Pac 12 player of the year quality player no doubt.

  • williary Kearns, UT
    May 24, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    There's no debate in my mind after watching spring. Harvey Langi will be the starting RB this year at the U. White can be a good change-of-pace back, and Palamo can spell Langi and work on goalline.

    Langi is clearly the most complete back of the group, and was the best offensive player on the field for the spring game.

    Can't wait to see him develop the next 4 years.

  • gonefishn Salt Lake City, UT
    May 24, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    Looks like the utes are going to have a real stud at RB.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    May 24, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    Can't wait to see the three running backs in action. I'd love to see Langi as the starter with the other two rotating as back ups to give him a breather.

    Based on the season ticker renewal percentage, a lot of other fans are looking forward to seeing them in action as well.