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Published: Monday, May 16 2011 7:00 p.m. MDT

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Ted H.
Midvale, UT

Impressive numbers. Hopefully success continues for both.

Springville, UT

"BYU has won 140 tournament- and regular-season championships in just over a decade. Utah is second with 49..."

Can you say domination, legacy, storied program? Sums it up quite nicely don't you think?

BYU is going to do quite well.

If this trend continues, you can only imagine how the Utes are going to do in the Pac 10.2. I'm thinking 'little fish in big pond'.

Frisco, TX

BYU dominated the MWC like no other school has dominated their conference in the past decade. Very impressive that one school could be on top in so many sports for so long.

With Utah, a distant second, also leaving the MWC; this league will turn into just another mid-major.

With TCU leaving next year, all hope is extinguished for the conference to turn into an AQ. In football, the conference will consist of one very good WAC team (Boise State), three good WAC teams (that could not have competed consistently with the top three programs in the late MWC) and Air Force. The others will remain cellar dwellars.

Lubbock, TX

That was nice of Dick to include utah as part of dominating. BYU is 3 times that of second place, and utah does not have that same separation by a long shot. I'm going to go ahead and call BYU the lone dominant school in a conference that now clearly has reason to be relieved BYU is leaving.

Orem, Utah

If anyone was wondering why the MWC schools riled on BYU for leaving more than Utah, these stats tell why. What dominance BYU has had!

That's also one of the reasons BYU is so highly respected nationally and why ESPN was so eager to help out BYU's independence in football.

The MWC, equally because of the three schools it's losing and because of being stuck with the minuscule mtn network, will become an also-ran like C-USA. Pretty much what the MWC was before Utah got hot in football and TCU joined the league.

I feel sorry for Boise State. They certainly did not end up with what they thought they were getting.

The MWC lost the state of Utah, which will definitely affect the mtn network's bottom line. BYU and Utah carried their wallet for too long. Payin' the piper now!

Highland, UT

Well BYU dominated the mwc, including utah in the domination is a bit of a stretch although they were a far, far, far, distant 2nd to BYU. When one school has just about 3 times as many championships as the next closest school, and almost as many championships as all of the other schools combined, then I would call that dominating.

Bottom Line
Draper, UT

Why is Utah mentioned in this article? This is an insult to BYU who has triple the trophies of Utah. The article should state BYU dominates, Utah very competitive.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Looking on the bright side for the Utes, at least Dick also agrees the Utes are favored to win their Division in PAC-12 football.

Orem, UT

Congratulations Cougars! and Utes.

The MWC will literally become the WAC 3.0 on July 1st.

In the major sports, BYU and Utah started strong sharing the first MWC football championship, with BYU paving the way in 2001 for Utah to bust the BCS in 2004. Utah reached the pinacle of it's football history in 2008. Both teams now stand at a crossroads entering the PAC 12 and Independence.

In basketball Utah started strong coming off their 1998 championship final run, had a couple of flashes of brilliance in 2004 and 2008, but otherwise faded into being only a shadow of their once stellar program. BYU made steady improvement throughout the MWC era, culminating in back-to-back 30-win seasons and Jimmermania. Next year will be a new beginning for both programs in the PAC 12 and the WCC. Decades old conference basketball rivalries will fade and new rivalries will be created.

Both programs will now be judged much more on what they do on a national scale.

Provo, UT

Dick Harmon Great research the MWC is about to get decimated.

BYUs overall Athletic program dominates Utah's. imagine if you lined up all of BYUs trophies end to end it almost

matches all the other teams in the MWC combined.

Someone in BYUs Athletic program is doing a lot of things right.

In My Humble Opinion
South Jordan, UT

The MWC should be very interesting this year with Boise State, TCU and Nevada. After that, as true blue said, it is WAC 3.0.

It will be interesting to see how the Utes do in basketball. Long history of success on the hill, and basketball players are gym rats, so other PAC schools won't have a weather advantage.

Old Cougar
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Good article, but research is a little misleading.

Utah has slipped into third place with the arrival of TCU since 2005-2006. Since that time, the Mountain West Website (Championships) lists TCU as having won 29 championships (will be 30 or 31 depending on the outcome of baseball) and Utah has won 21.

Utah has had a couple of lean years during the last two - in 2009-2010 they won 1 (women's tennis) and in 2010-2011 they won 2, while BYU won 9 and 10 and TCU won 7 and 2 (3 or 4 with the outcome of baseball).

In fact Utah is only one championship ahead of UNLV for 4th place.

Congratulations, UTES, you are leaving a mid-major conference in the middle of the pack to go to the elite PAC12 where you will totally dominate.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

To think that Air Force and Wyoming, with 2 championships each, were closer to catching up to the Utes than Utah was to catching up to BYU! No wonder everybody hated BYU-- they dominated, no doubt.

We'll see just how under/over-rated the PAC is this next season. We know how good the Utes are. If the Utes win the south division (which is a possibility), it shows how overrated the PAC is (no disrespect to the U, it's just that it shouldn't be that easy in the first year). If they are buried, then people were right about Non-AQ teams. I think most likely the Utes will float in the middle for a little bit before becoming one of the more prominent teams.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

Old Cougar,

I don't think you are looking at both tournament and regular season championships. His numbers are right. Either way, to think that BYU almost has as many championships as the other 8 schools combined speaks volumes about BYU's athletic program.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

"BYU and Utah leave the MWC with a combined 189 of trophies."

And Donald Trump and I have a combined worth of 2.8 Billion...

Las Vegas, NV

We shall see what happens. I will predict that Utah will not win any more championships in the Pac 12 than they did in the MWC.

Eddie Would Go

To BYU athletes and coaches - Congratulations on your excellence. You clearly are the dominant program in the conference, winning three times as many titles as your closest competitor, and almost as many championships as the other 8 programs combined.

To all too many BYU fans - Harmon asked, "will these two programs be missed?" I'm confident that BYU fans won't be.

Thus far, half of the responses to this article were written by Cougar fans who are, yet again, rubbing other people's noses in it. So much for "acting like you've been there before" when you get into the endzone! The numbers speak for themselves, why do you feel compelled to put down your opponents?

With BYU gone, there will be titles within reach of the remaining/incoming MWC schools. Conference money/attendance will decrease since the Cougars have a large, loyal following. But I'm sure the MWC fans won't miss the smug, arrogant fans that come with the excellent BYU squads.

Utah will find it much harder to win titles in the Conference of Champions. BYU will be even more dominant in the WCC than they have been in the WAC and MWC.

Eddie Would Go


Arrogant comment, but pretty clever....

Cottonwood Heights, UT

Hedgie? Where art thou? I guess the evidence in the numbers is enough to establish no need for arguement here. Mormon Ute, hang onto that dream, but it all ends on September 10th in the LA Col. when USC introduces Jordan Wynn to the floor of the stadium looking at daisies. It'll be interesting to see if your Utes can pull it together to not get blown away the next week in Provo. Projected Southern division winners? Maybe, but Arizona and Arizona State will be licking their chops for some "Ute" as well.

Good luck you're gonna need some...

Honor Code
Denver, Colorado

Get the polish out..........it's going to be a long, long time before you'll have bragging rights again!!!

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