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Published: Friday, May 13 2011 11:43 p.m. MDT

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attentive
Salt Lake City, UT

Does the FBI hide evidence? Does a bear...?

My2Cents
Kearns, UT

I have to agree with the judges remarks that no department or government agency can lie to the courts to deceive the courts with impunity and criminal intent. Just as any american is bound by law to tell the truth it has to apply to our law enforcement departments and agency's. What ever gave these groups the idea they could lie to the judges? The adage no one is above the law includes the president and anyone in this country regardless of job or national security.

This shield of National Secured has become passe for any crime by any government employee and its time this moniker be terminated and abolished. National security must never be allowed as means or method to avoid truth and justice.

Pete1215
Lafayette, IN

If law enforcement agencies hide evidence that could keep innocent people out of jail, someone should be fired and/or imprisoned.

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

Federal evidence rules are so detailed that no one can possibly understand them all. On top of that, they vary from one federal appeals court district to another. In the 9th Circuit, based in California, they are extremely onerous and weighted toward defendants.

Law enforcement agencies routinely reveal only that which is sufficient to convict, which is not to say they withhold exculpatory evidence, which is required by any court. Sometimes there is so much evidence that a person coulde be convicted ten times for some of their crimes.

Tom Smith
Sandy, UT

Standard practice! Every book I have ever read on J. E. Hoover comments on the personal files kept and evidence access. I have also read biographies on most of the Directors since Mr. Hoover It has been a practice to keep two file systems. One is the Official File that contains information that the Bureau releases to investigating agencies, the second is an "un-official" with all information archived. When someone asks for a specific item the can by honestly told "I have given you everything in the official file". There is no reason to believe that the bureau in 2011 is any different.

gizmo33
St. George, Utah

the FBI hide evidence ? nope. never they are always out in the open about everything. they would never do such a thing. after all they are part of the justice system and we all know how corupt the system is. nah them hiding anything ? heck no..

msfreeh
Augusta, Maine

Boston Globe Pulitzer Prize winning reporter wrote a book called BREAK INS DEATH THREATS AND THE FBI which details the FBI DO NOT FILE FILES file.
He discovered this category when he filed a FOIA request with the FBI in 1990
while writing his book. He currently lives in Jamaica Plain Massachusetts

tmaxr
Santa Rosa, Ca

"Wyer said that case isn't relevant in Trentadue because it doesn't involve national security."

But if the suspect was a paid FBI informant who was allowed to assist in the murder of hundreds of people at the Murrah Building, then the FBI WOULD see it as a National Security secret. They think if the Bureau were significantly reduced or reorganized, the nation would fall.

I believe teachers and librarians are more essential to national security than the FBI. Because if we don't teach kids math and science, we will be overrun by nations that DO value education.

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

May I offer an example?

In the late 1940s or early '50s a couple named Rosenberg was arrested, tried, convicted and executed for selling nuclear secrets to the USSR. Several decades later, some of their grandchildren announced their intention to clear their grandparents' names.

They had a meeting with the FBI, in Washington I believe. The FBI showed them the mountains of overwhelming evidence that the Rosenbergs were guilty. Most of that evidence was not provided for their prosecution because it was not needed to secure a conviction. Much of it had to do with national security issues and was therefore not used as evidence in the case.

In 29 years of law enforcement, I never had to have a secret file on a suspect.
First of all, no US Attorney takes cases that have any chance of an acquittal. Secondly, if you try to play games with system and get caught, you render yourself useless for any future case.

Very few people in any level of law enforcement have to resort to trickery to gain a conviction. Even the most careful crooks eventually make mistakes that can lead to their prosecution and conviction.

tmaxr
Santa Rosa, Ca

In the 1950's, my great uncle was the one of the most influential writers in America, Maxwell Anderson. He won a Pulitzer for "What Price Glory," and wrote "Both Your Houses" and the screenplay for "The Bad Seed."

He was never convicted, indicted or even accused of any crime, yet records released through the Freedom of Information Act showed the FBI had harassed and spied on him for years. They had over 300 pages of lies, innuendo, rumors and personal details that could only have been obtained from people very close to him. None of it had any law enforcement application, and the files were very explicit about why they were interested in him.

Hoover saw Anderson as an influential person interested in social justice. He wrote about abuse of power, racism and corruption. The most chilling part of his FBI file named him as someone to hold indefinitely in "custodial detention." Part of the McCarthy era's planned prison camps for Leftists.

HUAC blacklisted him, and the IRS threatened to take his house. He named names to save his career, but doing so killed him. He died a few years later, without publishing another play.

msfreeh
Augusta, Maine

To view a 5 pages long suggested reading list of books dealing with crimes committed by FBI agents google rigorous intuition fbi watch making cruelty visible

robertsgt40
san antonio, texas

One of my favorite stories by the FBI is how many times the truck and bomb sizes increased with no parts of the truck left. LOL Or the missing TV clips showing ATF and Bomb Squad guys telling everyone there are still unexploded boms in the building. Or the suiciding of officer Terrance Yeakey who was on the scence and started his private investigation. Unfortunately, he was suicided just before he was about to let the cat out of the bag. Just after the OKC bombing, Congress passed some major legislation on "terrorism". Or the pic of the Ryder truck hidden at a National Guard facility just before the bombing. Nah, the feds aren't hiding anything

JayWalker1
TULSA, OK

No surprise here. The FBI have a long history of corruption and criminality.

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