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Published: Friday, May 13 2011 12:24 a.m. MDT

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CougarBlue
Heber City, UT

This is political pandering denying the truth and hoping others will accept his betrayal.

As far as the Church being the true Church Christ said that himself in the Doctrine and Covenants section 1 verse 30. You can say you do not believe that, just as the Jews refused to believe Christ is the Savior. Either you believe this statement or do you do not. Either you believe Jesus Christ made that statement or you do not. To be a faithful member of the Church you must believe that statement or you are not faithful, regardless of how good you are.

Lone Ranger
Tooele, UT

Huntsman has attempted to remove himself from the taint of being a Utah Mormon. He is a true politician, talking out of both sides of his mouth. When in Utah play to the Mormon side....When running for a president of what may be determined as a pro liberal country, bring up the family trash.....It'll probably work. The next thing we might hear is that he smoked marjijuana in high school only a couple of times but didn't inhale. By employing such methods, Mrs Huntsman's boy might very well be the next president of the United States.

HiO Silver!

sergio
Phoenix, AZ

Re: AT 5:04 For the blessed who have it, money pays for a lot of penance and buys a whole lot of forgivness. And maybe that is a good thing; who knows. Anyway, after reading so many of the self righteous comments it almost makes the label Jack-Mormon sound like a badge of courage.

katamb
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Huntsman is a typical whimpy politician. Vote Rick Santorum!

jim l
West Jordan, UT

Huntsman is a politician first. He went back on his word when he was governor. Do and say anything to get elected. I am not surprized at this. Smiling johnie

FreddyT
Wasatch/Heber, UT

uummm... Get off the fence Huntsman.

I honestly question his intelligence if he thinks sitting on the fence is the answer to a very relevant and legitimate question that will not go away.

Is this how he plans on handling the tough decisions if he gets to the Whitehouse. Sitting on the fence? Good luck this that Johnny.

New Yorker
Pleasant Grove, UT

Not someone I'd vote for. Did like his governorship either.

Idaho Coug
Meridian, Idaho

Like everyone else on this board, I do not know what JH believes or what he does not. I do know that he seems to represent a very large number of LDS - those who struggle with or outright do not accept some of the LDS truth claims but who still have a strong connection to the Church.

The reality is that there are thousands of members who are struggling with their relationship to the Church in light of the fact that they cannot say that they believe all things LDS.

I think it will be interesting to see how the Church responds to this large block of members - many who still attend and remain active despite a substantil lack of belief. If JH becomes a serious candidate they may have to address this sooner rather than later.

The question is whether there truly is room in the Church for "soft", "doubting", "liberal" or "cafateria" members. Some in the Church see no place for these members. This has been reflected by the "in or out" comments to this article. Others are very accepting of the different journeys different members are on. We shall see...

Fly
Washington, DC

It is "tough to define" why Huntsman thinks he has a prayer in a nationwide election. If Mitt Romney can't do it with Massachusetts and Michigan connections, along with a strong Mormon vote, how does Huntsman think he is going to do it, with none of those things? Plus, having a stiff-as-a-board personality.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Who cares? I think too many of you. 170 posts, wow. Donnie and Marie for president.

chopperdan
Clovis, NM

I'm terribly disappointed in Mr. Huntsman. It's either, --- I'm a member or not. He is a terrible example and a coward. Be true to the faith Mr. Huntsman!

Idaho Coug
Meridian, Idaho

Another interesting aspect of this is that Huntsman's brand of Mormonism (not able to accept everything) probably resonates with more of the 6 million U.S. Mormons than does Romney's (I know the church is true - period) brand.

In addition, Huntsman is probably much less threatening to the large block of ultra conservative southern born-again republicans than Romney. And he probably resonates with independents more.

So, while he won't win any Deseret News poll, he is probably a more acceptable candidate nationwide than Romney.

And for those who think JH was wishy washy in his response, go to Youtube and watch some old Romney interviews. He was asked very directly how he felt about the LDS Church's stance on black members prior to 1978. He was 31 when the ban was lifted and as a result it is a legitimate question whether or not he supported the ban. He out wishy-washes JH big time.

hiya
O, UT

The LDS Faith is just not one of wishy-whashyism. It requires allot of effort, work, service, and commitment on top of religious conversion to the doctrine. It is not a religion where you go once a year and say "Awe shucks that was nice, maybe we'll visit next year". Don't get me wrong, visitors, and those struggling with their faith are welcome to attend our Imeetings and worship services, but it is definitely a you know or you don't, a its true or not sort of religion; not a maybe. People don't get offended with the army, but you can't say I'm sort of in the army. You can't say I'm kinda the president. Its just one of those positions where either you believe it or you don't and if you don't know than you don't believe it yet. That's ok, it is what it is. People don't need to be offended by that. It's just the nature of the religion. And that's OK! If your a don't it doesn't that we are enemies! Just that your not in. moving on.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Honestly --

My "guess" is Jon Huntsman Jr.'s "tough to define" relationship with the LDS Church has nothing to do with his personal "faith", but rather the bizarre and extremely "peculiar" Mormons here in Utah.

I remember full well distancing myself from "those" kinds of Mormons when living outside of the "bubble".

BTW - Jesus was rejected and ultimely crucified by his own (the ultra-Conservatives of his time) for being too "RINO" [isn't that what you guys call Liberal Republicans?].

Fender Bender
Saint George, UT

Should Huntsman have given a straight answer? Yes. His answer should have been:

"My religious beliefs are private and unrelated to whether or not I would be an effective leader."

Isn't that the sentiment most of us LDS members felt when Mitt Romney was facing all of those ridiculous questions about his religious beliefs in the 2008 campaign? Didn't we all cry foul? Didn't we all agree then that there should be no religious litmus test for the office of POTUS?

Why are so many of us now judging Huntsman the (potential) candidate based on his personal religious beliefs?

Seems pretty hypocritical to me.

?
Fort Knox, KY

I can understand if he wants to keep his religious preferences private, in which case he should have said so and maybe he wishes he had. I can understand other members getting a little upset by being vague in his answer, because we promise to stand as a witness at all times, in all things, and all places. One thing to think about is the apostle Peter. He denied the Savior three times, yet he was an apostle of the Lord and became a great leader. Mr. Huntsman has some experiences that would make him a great president, and other things like any other politician that concern me. Wish him best of luck.

bgl
Santa Monica, CA

As Republicans continue to dine on their own, it's refreshing to see a guy who is willing to dine upon himself by being neither non-Mormon enough for most of America or Mormon enough for his own religion.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

So let me understand, if someone is a member, but has questions or doubts in their own personal testimony, they need to leave the church? Such sole searching is not allowed? You can't remain a member while you sort things out?

How telling that so many members think like this. If they only really knew about the discussions that happen behind closed doors with conversations between leader and member about how they may struggle with this, or that part of the gospel. Sacrament meeting would be a very lonely place if it were only for those who don't have questions.

?
Fort Knox, KY

UtahBlueDevil: Yes, it would be lonely. Please stick around and keep going to sacrament meeting.

PA Gardener
Towanda, PA

I say give Jon some slack. It is too early to pass a quick judgment on this candidate. With some time and patience, we will eventually see how his campaign unfolds and get to see how he stands on the real issues burdening this nation of ours. Only then can I talk about whether he gets my vote.

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