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Published: Tuesday, May 3 2011 12:08 a.m. MDT

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altahoops
Provo, UT

It's not like this was a surprise for anyone at Novell. They have been aware that this was coming as soon as the buy-out was announced. Also, Novell employees have been conditioned to accept layoffs. It has been a way of life there since the WordPerfect merger.

I worked for Novell for 17 years. Aside from constantly worrying about the longevity of your job, Novell treated it's employees pretty well. I have no complaints. I went through a layoff there when my whole group was RIFed. At first it was very harrowing. When you work for a large company like Novell, you start to think they are the only show in town. I was laid off on a Friday, started work with a new company on Monday, and pocketed 6 months of severance pay. A year later, I was hired back, for $15k more than when I left, worked another 7 years for them, then left for a much better opportunity. Much nicer to walk out the door by your own choosing.

Bottom Line: Lots of great opportunities out there. Novell isn't the only show in town.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Novell should have never ....

1. built the high rise building. Too expensive and not needed. At the time they built it they had other buildings unoccupied.
2. appointed CEO's from outside of Utah. Most of these characters only came to collect some big cash and move on.
3. bought the galaxy of companies over the years most of which never panned out and only de-railed the company.

Novell should have.....

1. Stayed with local people for the CEO on down .... much like Micron.
2. Never overhired during good times and then forcing layoffs during lean times. This practice could of and should of been avoided.
3. Not over built the Provo campus.

Sqweebie
Salt Lake City, UT

To 10cc and Seer - the problem is that many employers do age discriminate - refuse to hire people over the age of 30 because they have the outside commitments - children who get sick, church jobs and a life outside of work.

I am an empty nester and I can't get a job - because I am over 30. I have bills such as rent, student loans, credit cards, medical bills to pay. Look around the employment offices and you will find that most of them looking for work are the over 30. We happen to be the best workers because we need the money more unlike a 20 something who after 3 months is whining "I'm not coming in today and I might quit because I don't understand what is expected of me." Heard this one on the bus from a young lady.

The age discrimination in Employment act was passed in 1967 making it illegal to refuse to hire anyone over the age of 40. Oh and I do have a friend that worked for Novell

raybies
Layton, UT

I suspect the open source movement had more effect on Novell's core competencies than anything Microsoft ever did. The leadership at Novell completely underestimated the spread of the internet, they tried to keep it proprietary, when everything became free--and they didn't innovate like Google/Amazon/Facebook, none of which base their companies on things like Microsoft (and yet they make Microsoft nervous).

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

I am not sure Novell did anything more wrong then many of the other early companies did. The list of extinct companies is long and deep - Tandem, Sun, DEV, Compaq, WordStar, WordPerfect, Lotus, Ashton-Tate, Peoplesoft, Lawson, BusinesObjects, Next, 3Com, Nortel, EDS.... the list goes on for ever. It is just part of the natural evolution.

Why did Novell fail when RedHat thrived? I don't think it was any one, two or even three things. In fact, Novell lived longer than many of them. So some credit has to be given to the management and staff who kept things alive much longer.

If you want to see a disaster in Utah Valley management, look at the old SCO group. They managed to drive every last cent of value out of that company - which at one time was a thriving enterprise.

No, at least someone wanted what was left of Novell... there was still value there. The same can't be said for all the lost names of high tech.

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