Starfarer, Daniel Sorensen said so himself that byu was "a bunch of
whiteboys". so there is nothing "sly" or "racist" about
what Chris B said.
Cougar nation. After watching Cougar Town I'll never hear the word Cougar the
same. Cougar nation indeed.
Is Heaps still going on a mission?
Chris BYep, you got it just right. All BYU players are slow,
nonathletic, oh and of course (the ever sly racist implying quip)white.Yep, always have been, never going to change. You said it, it must be true.The problem with your comments is that you just carpet bomb a negative
aspect and want to apply it to the entire team or the school. this makes your
comment have no merit.So if I can find...one fast guy,one athletic guy,and one non-white guyto prove you wrong,will you go away and stop posting on BYU articles?
My original comment was unaccepted as well. Just change the title of the
Article to "Mormon Mission Trips Help Players Prepare for BYU Football and
Life"There are many other RM's that play and will return to
play for other teams as well.
JRJ said, "I no longer make comments because everything comes back
unacceptable. Trouble is, where is the list telling you what is acceptable? I
don't "tear" into anybody, just reasonable comments. So can somebody
tell me where the web site is with the rules on it?"Don't take
it personal, JRJ. The censors at DNews have it out for me too. At least 80% of
my comments are rejected and I rarely say anything controversial. My worst
comments are tame compared to the norm for many of the Ute fans on here. I
finally just gave up and, with this exception, no longer comment on anything.My guess is that the censors at DNews are a bunch of Ute fans.
I find it refreshing to hear these young men tell you about all of the positive
things that happened to them while doing what they thought right. One of the
most important attributes that these young returned with was not an increase in
football talents, but as I see it, the confidence to tell the world how good it
is. I don't see any of the comments refering to how great they are in football,
but, rather, the way they grew in the love for mankind.The u, aggies
and many other programs have many return missionaries. they certainly don't go
to just the Y.It was a great article, perhaps not really a sports
genre.Go aggies with all your rm's.
It continues to amaze me how articles such as this try to always bring the
Church into other area of life. Such as "Mormons in the NFL",
"Mormons in the NCAA Tournament", etc.. So what! A mission is a
wonderful growing experience for an individual and their family. Period.
Football is football. Period. I don't see how the two are related.
I didn't know playing football was the ultimate goal of the returned missionary.
So does the letter writing from the " big brothers " continue while
their missionary little brothers are out in the field ?
The Mission experience does absolutely nothing to prepare for football. Either
you're a player or you're not. You may be 2 years older, which can be an
advantage to some, but it doesn't make you better. You still have to play.
I remember years ago when Lavell Edwards spoke in General Priesthood Meeting and
said "Boys (young men) who play football well prior to serving a mission
usually have the ability to play well after their mission. Those who don't play
well prior to serving a mission generally won't be able to play well after their
mission, either." (Or words to that effect.) The whole place erupted in
laughter. They were waiting tounge-in-cheek for him to say that serving a
mission would result in suddenly becoming a great athlete even if one had little
potential prior to serving. It as pretty hilarious.Those coaches
who say BYU has an advantage by having older players that have served missions
ought to look at such things at whether they are subsequently married and
whether or not they like to "party," drink and chase girls for
expected physical favors. Why is it that some of those other schools have to
constantly worry about players being arrested, skipping class, or
stealing/cheating, etc? Isn't it a bit disingenuous to then say that RM's are
an advantage because of their "age?" Never mind the differences in
behavior, I guess.
This is a good article, a mission will help anyone be better prepared for the
rest of their life. For football I guess it could? I think most Elders come home
out of shape. You only get a half hour slotted everyday to workout and most
dont. Some do all they can with the time they get like Austin Collie did reading
about when he returned. There were a couple byu players that were in my mission
and know they came home out of shape. If there is one peron on the roster who
worked out hard after their mission its Mike Hauge. I read the article on him
losing that weight to play safety. He was super nice kid, we talked a couple
times when we were both at the MTC.
I no longer make comments because everything comes back unacceptable. Trouble
is, where is the list telling you what is acceptable? I don't "tear"
into anybody, just reasonable comments. So can somebody tell me where the web
site is with the rules on it?
My mission helped me realize how transient and unimportant athletics is in the
long run of life. I enjoyed running still but finishing my degrees, serving my
fellow man and raising my family became so much more important. I love those
who can continue to enjoy athletic pursuits. But after serving even they have a
greater perspective on life. I would certainly recommend Peace Corp, Inner City
service or something along those lines for those that don't have the opportunity
or desire to serve a mission. Two years of learning to get outside your self
can do a lot for your world view. It even makes slow, white, fast, Asian,
handicapped, athletic, short, Samoan, tall, unathletic, black, Russian, genius,
talented, female, intelligent, and computer trolls better people.
Several of those names are familiar to me from 2 years ago. Hopefully a bunch
of them can contribute this year. Go Cougs!
Then we have ChrisB who is just...slow.
LOL Chris BHow many returned missionaries play for the Utes? Oh, I
forgot, those are all the fast, athletic missionaries. Thats
actually how BYU and Utah decide who goes where... if you run a 4.4 40 and have
skills you go to Utah after the mish... if you are slow, they send you down to
Provo. No one "chooses" to go to BYU. Its all making sense
now. Thanks Chris B.
If BYU does well it's the "unfair" advantage of returned missionaries.
When BYU does poorly it's because of the "old men" returned
missionaries. Coaches often look for reasons outside of their own team to
rationalize defeat. If other teams really believed their own complaining they
could send their players to the Peace Corps or VISTA for two years.
They leave slow, white, and unathletic.They come back slow, white,
and unathletic. You'll never hear me complaining about the mission boys being
older. Still aren't athletes.
I don't think Alisa paid too much attention in Geography class if he took one.
Great to hear many are back and will be contributing immediately.