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Published: Wednesday, April 20 2011 1:06 p.m. MDT

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Starfarer
Mesa, AZ

Let the trolling begin.

Make me laugh, make me cry, tell me why BYU is a bust, that they will fail, that going independent will be bad.

But remember...

What you say will more than likely come back to haunt you.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Starfarer...

BYU will be playing on Thursday and Fridays.

They got every recruit signed that they wanted, and anyone who did not sign, they did not want.

Also, I'm thinking of moving to Ann Arbor for the cheaper housing?

SportsCenter
Olympus Cove, Utah

JustGordon | 2:31 p.m. March 29, 2011
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"Gosh...the Utes on ESPN....no ESPN love for BYU? Oh, I forgot...only on Wednesdays and Thursdays."

ESPN | 9:00 a.m. April 19, 2011
Bristol, CT

"3 reasons BYU's offense will be better"

1. Jake Heaps is the starter.
2. Doman is in.
3. Depth.

BYU's contract with ESPN, btw, doesn't include any Wednesday games, only Thursday, Friday, and Saturday games on ESPN/ESPN2 and occassionally on ESPNU.

Not bad for an independent that supposedly got left behind. The Cougars will receive more revenue for one home game on ESPN, than they were getting for the entire year, all sports combined, on the MTN.

The Utes will be on ESPN's PAC 12 blog.

The Cougars will be on ESPN television.

It's a great time to be a Cougar fan!

BlueCoug
Orem, UT

Heaps is poised to have a breakout sophomore season. With all summer and fall camp to work on timing and reads with his receivers, the BYU passing game is going to be awesome.

I appreciate all that Robert Anae contributed to the BYU program, but he really made some poor decisions last year that contributed mightily to a less-than stellar season. The two-headed quarterback was a disaster. As much as I like Riley, Heaps should have been the starter from day one. Expect Doman to be much more agressive in his play calling than Anae. Doman wouldn't have sat on the ball after moving inside the 20 with plenty of time left to score a touchdown and seal the win. Heaps will be give much more freedom to call his own plays.

BYU might have more depth this year than any year since Bronco became BYU's head coach. They'll still be quite young, but they have a lot of talented players that are going to open some eyes.

This is going to be a fun team to watch.

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

@Sportscenter

Who's going to be watching those games on ESPN? Just because it's on TV, doesn't mean people will watch. Do you watch LaTech vs. Fresno State when the game is broadcast on ESPN?

TJ
Eagle Mountain, UT

More legitimate praise for one of the best programs in the country. It is a great time to be a Cougar fan. I am predicting a good season with a minimum of 9 wins. I am really looking forward to the Cougars playing several very good teams this Fall. The new coaches have really instilled a winning attitude.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@devlishute

ESPN didn't give BYU an exclusive contract because no one would watch. To the contrary BYU has fans all over the country, litterally millions of them that will watch. For evidence just have a look at ESPN's alltime highest rated college football games and you will find BYU well represented on it.

Certainly your utah education was better than you have shown here wasn't it?

Making Sense
Herriman, UT

I was expecting to see Hedgie over here commenting. I found him crawling outside of his hole on a ute article. He saw his shadow and there will be several more weeks of bitter comments.

The Independence push for BYU football has definitely built more excitement around the program.

Oh, and what a great baseball game last night as the Y pulls it out in the bottom of the 11th!!!

Cougars - Wise Older Brothers
Anaheim, CA

DevilishUte

Who will be watching?

The nation, including U, because BYU and Jake Heaps will be playing.

BlueSaint
South Jordan, UT

Hey, there is an article on a former Ute blowing all his wealth. I'm sure that is pretty good reading, if your into Ute football.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

DevilishUte

"Who's going to be watching those games on ESPN?... Do you watch LaTech vs. Fresno State when the game is broadcast on ESPN?"

LaTech and Fresno State aren't BYU.

This is a common mistake of the naysayers, underestimating the drawing power of BYU.

Ironically, even the BYU naysayers will be watching.

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

@Duck Hunter, scenic view and everyone else....

We shall see. We shall see. Your arrogance is once again on display. I don't think people, outside of BYU fans, will tune in to watch BYU trounce Idaho State and other games like that. It's not going to happen. That's not to say that when BYU schedules games against better teams, people won't watch. That being said, I think you are overestimating BYU's national presence. I know plenty of alumni and plenty of Mormons outside of Utah that don't care about BYU nearly as much as you think they do.

@Duck Hunter

I love your cyber muscles...I'd like to see you make snide, rude comments like that to me in person, especially given that we have no prior history.

Besides following Utah, I also follow ASU. ASU played Idaho State last year and I turned it off after the first quarter (maybe I'm not a "true" fan???). People will not watch lopsided games. You'll see.

DevilishUte
Tempe, AZ

@Duckhunter

Please provide empirical evidence supporting your claim that BYU games are among the highest rated games on ESPN. Please state your source. Thanks!

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

DevilishUte, let's do a little math. There are about 13 million Mormons worldwide. About 6 million live in the US, so let's select from that pool. Let's say only have are BYU fans, then we have 3 million. Let's say only a third care enough to watch a game. That's one million.

Yeah, these could be overestimates (I don't think anybody knows for sure), but don't forget that there are non-LDS people who do watch BYU play (probably a few, but they are out there) as well as BYU haters who will most definately watch just to cheer against BYU (you really think hedgehog doesn't watch BYU play?). A million people just watching BYU is a good number, not enough to break records, but certainly better than the status quo.

Again, I don't think anyone knows exact numbers, but ESPN has statistics about how many have watched their past games and judging by the deal they made, they considered it a worthy investment.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

scenic view:

"This is a common mistake of the naysayers, underestimating the drawing power of BYU."

One of the common mistakes of cougar fans is the overestimation of their drawing power. Take last years New Mexico Bowl for example. The cougars game against UTEP only drew a Nielsen rating of 1.8. That a significantly lower draw than the 2.2 Colorado State-Fresno State [2008] and 2.4 Wyoming-Fresno State [2009] New Mexico Bowls.

The cougars last drew a 2.2 with their 2009 Las Vegas Bowl game vs. Oregon State. What that means is a Wyoming-Fresno State New Mexico Bowl > a cougar-Oregon St. Las Vegas. Can you wrap your mind around that? Why would an "also-ran MWC team" vs. an "also-ran WAC team" game trump a "MWC-Champion" vs. "Pac-10 team" game?

Answer: Because you're a bush-league mid-major. Nobody cares about the cougars except to rip on them and their frantic and emotional fanbase. But at least you're still good for that.

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

DevilishUte, Naval Vet

The common mistake of BYU haters is not recognizing reality that ESPN wouldn't have signed BYU to an 8-year contract if their empirical evidence hadn't demonstrated that BYU football draws fans nationwide.

Independent
Henderson, NV

Honestly, how many teams are there that can draw millions of viewers, on their own, on national television? You BYU haters are making a straw-person argument. I don't care how many people watch BYU play on Thursday night. I can watch them now, unlike my Alma Mater, even though I live in the same television market where they play, because UNLV could barely even draw their own friends and family to watch their games. BYU has a fantastic football program worthy to be televised nationally. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. The Cougars' frantic and emotional fanbase plus frantic emotional people who love to hate them will watch, that's who.

WA_Alum&Dad
Marysville, WA

This past week one of the top sports radio jocks here in the Seattle market ("Softy" Mahler, on KJR AM) had Jake Heaps on the air by phone from Provo. He told the audience that the reason he made the call, even though he was still mad at him for not going to Washington, was that he saw Jake as the next big college star. I found that remarkable, based on how PAC-centric KJR, the home of Husky sports, typically is.

With all the negative publicity in college athletics, lots of people who know nothing about the Church and care even less about the state of Utah are hungry for the kind of teams BYU fields. With BYU playing on national TV and in many big games this year (4 of the top 50 non-con games in 2011 are BYU games, according to College Football News), BYU will be picking up fans, especially among sports families with kid fans. If BYU football has anything approaching a decent season this year, they will be the roundhouse to the basketball team's setup punch.

Emotional? Sometimes, I admit. If this is what "frantic" feels like, then pour me a double!

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

DevilishUte

"I know plenty of alumni and plenty of Mormons outside of Utah that don't care about BYU nearly as much as you think they do."

Your limited circle of acquaintances is meaningless when it comes to the size of the BYU fanbase outside of Utah.

It's not arrogance, it's a fact, that BYU has been an ESPN media darling for decades. BYU was drawing large audiences playing past and current WAC teams like Utah State, Wyoming, New Mexico and UTEP 20 years ago.

Your jealousy notwithstanding, the BYU/ESPN partnership is going to be very successful. Not every game will be a sensation, but there will be enough to keep fans tuning in.

Where's Stockton ???
Bowling Green, OH

@DevelishUte... a question of immense implication from one of the barely 7000 who might possibly have showed up for Utah bb home games. Do you really believe that the 12,000...no make that 15,000 that the DNews says supposedely showed up for the Utes Spring Game were actually all Ute Fans??? Just like everything else the Utes do they depend on at least a 3rd to half of their crowds at home games to be Cougar fans who like to attend both School's athletic events... something in which most ute fans do not recipricate or even remotely fathom. Believe me You will not have 12,000 true Ute fans sitting in the 92,516 seat Memorial Colloseum on Sept 10th. More than likey you might have that many Cougar fans from the Southern Cal area coming out to support the Utes.

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