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Published: Thursday, April 14 2011 1:32 a.m. MDT

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slgs5aggie
Cedar City, UT

Is it perhaps time to pluck his eyes out? That would put an end to his little problem. If thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out.

mkSdd3
Ogden, UT

The one thing missing from the story is what the results of a felony charge would be. Does it mean he will be put in jail for 3 months instead of 3 weeks?

I would hope someone like this could be put away for an extended time, just to keep the public safe from his perverted mind and actions.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: slgs5aggie | 12:13 p.m. April 13, 2011

Good analogy but I don't know if its his right eye that is the problem.

Ironmomo
Ogden, Utah

...and to think of all the times I tried to get out of gym class with my lame excuses of "I forgot my gym clothes" or "I'm sick and I have a note from my mother"...

I never thought of "Hey,theres a naked guy in the locker room!" ploy.

Gruffi Gummi
Lehi, UT

Even misdemeanor charges can carry a substantial jail time. Why weren't his penalties progressively increased with each violation? IMO we are again witnessing a major problem with our chaotic legal system, which is totally capable of putting innocents in jail (e.g. the couple from Payson, wrongfully accused of murder) and letting repeated offenders go. The description of this man's 2008 case indicates what is wrong with the prosecutors and courts: they rely too much on plea deals, rather than on their own diligent work.

So, in 2008 the prosecutor was apparently TOO LAZY to properly substantiate all the charges, and Mr. Lee (in spite of his lengthy record) was allowed to go with a minor penalty, after the plea bargain. Conversely, when innocents do not want to accept any plea bargain, they are kept caged until they are forced to agree, or until the long list of ridiculous charges cannot be justified anymore. Yuck!

The Final Word
Alpine, UT

Well, at least it wasn't the boys locker room.

What a loser though.

ldhhdll2
Sandy, utah

Maybe he thought that being naked makes you invisible?

ODannyBoy
Sandy, Utah

And the female teachers that have sex with the willing 14 year old get 30 YEARS. Seems fair.

screenname123
Sandy, UT

Weird.....he looks like such a normal guy......

FarnsworthPMacGillicuddy
Layton, UT

"But, he's NOT a sex offender or a "threat to himself or others", so he can walk the streets and repeat this over and over and over with NO penalties at all".
I am guessing he'll now use the "Lonnie Johnson" defense, claiming he isn't able to comprehend the charges against him, just a minor little glitch is all. No big deal.
Too bad he didn't run into the path of a large truck, that could have ended his recidivism permanently, since Utah Courts and prosecutors are unable or unwilling to do it. He'll probably sue the teachers and school district now for chasing him and harassment of his free expression.

DeltaFoxtrot
West Valley, UT

Can we not have the 3 strikes act for repeat offenders?

Found guilty of the same crime 3 times and you get put away for life.

Seems to me it would prevent a lot of problems.

itsaconspiracy
Provo, Utah

What about this persons mental stability? Seems to me that a person like this has a genuine mental illness. Jail is no place for him and neither is living in society. Seems the state mental hospital is the place to put him.

If he goes free he needs to have a permanent ankle bracelet that will detect him if he goes near any schools, colleges and public places where he can commit his acts. Can't they do that with our technology today?

Perhaps in time he could be rehabilitated and be a productive part of society, instead of a drain on our justice system. I bet he has some serious monsters crawling around inside his skull.

FarnsworthPMacGillicuddy
Layton, UT

@itsaconspiracy-
He's had plenty of chances to get "rehabilitated". NINE times worth. Utah justice seems to think it's all about "forgiveness", yes sometimes that is appropriate,not in this case. He's demonstrated a consistent pattern of behavior that will at some point in time result in a predatory assault on a victim. I have little faith in the "doctors" at Utah State Hospital at this point. Almost would rather trust a judge in Weber County to resolve his "issues", certainly NOT one in Utah County.
I doubt he can become "productive" at all. I'm not willing to risk any victims on him, are you?

itsaconspiracy
Provo, Utah

@FarnsworthPMacGillicuddy,

Are you saying that spending a week or month in jail is rehabilitation? This guy has a serious mental illness. It's probably an addiction. I am not saying that he should be let free, but he does need help. Can he become productive. Maybe maybe not. Perhaps we need a place were we can lock up these non-violent criminals for life doing something to earn their keep, but keep them out of the civil population so they don't have a chance to hurt anyone. The latest news about our good ole Utah penal system shows that we are below the national average in rehabilitating criminals since around 50% end up back in prison. How embarrassing is that?

AZRods
Maricopa, AZ

Itsa, actually, most prison systems are having a poor rehab record, so it's not just a Utah thing.
The plea system is clearly letting the same people go out and offende again and again.
I'm surprised some girls dad/uncle/brother hasn't caught this guy on the street and provided a little intensive rehab on him.
The plea system is really becoming a joke and constantly gets abused.
And criminals are learning how to work it, with the help of their attorneys.

Mark4439
Salt Lake City, ut

What's wrong with this guy? In the words of Cameron Poe "My first thought would be, a lot."

While I completely agree with the previous comments that this individual has a significant mental illness, his willingness to re-offend in the same manner would lead me to believe this guy cannot be fixed.

He has been caught nine times. How many times did he not get caught? I wonder.

liberate
Sandy, UT

I normally have little tolerance for those who prey on children, particularly repeat offenders. But this guy obviously has a mental problem and has not yet committed any type of violent crime. I'd be curious to find out if he has ever received medical treatment or entered some type of rehab program. Something is wrong when a person repeatedly enters a high school locker room shower and derobes knowing full well that he is going to be caught (how can he hide)? I am not saying we should let him free because it could be a matter of time before he does something violent, but I am saying the current pattern is an enormous drain on our resources and it's worth considering whether there are other alternatives that may help him.

Left Field
Longmont, Colorado

Anyone with legal experience in this area of crime will tell you that the vast majority of sex offenders cannot control themselves when left to their own devices. A mandatory medicinal treatment to suppress these urges, while admittedly draconian, is the most likely route to successful treatment of these people if they are not going to be incarcerated permanently.

NightTrader
Colonia, Yap, FSM

Interesting. I live on an island where village law rules. There is no prison. You are in and out of the courtroom in a couple of days, and you are taken care of by the villagers that you have offended. For minor offenses, you do community service to pay the village you offended. For more serious offenses, they won't kill you, but they'll make it so you'll learn to never do that again! As a result, there is comparatively little crime, no backlog in the courts, no repeat offenders.

Sarah B
SLC, UT

Mentally ill or not, it's disgusting that he's allowed to reoffend so many times. Sometimes non-violent sex offenders like peeping toms do escalate their behavior and it does become violent. Why take that chance with him and his potential victims? Why do they drop the more serious charges? Make him answer to those and drop the less serious things.

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