Utah is voting based on LDS candidates - while Trump has a lot of baggage, he
may be what America needs. You can't trust any Dan Jones poll anyway.
WE'LL see your DAN JONES & Associates 247 respondent statistically
insignificant poll and raise you by 550,000 Newsmax respondents.
We'll SEE YOUR DAN JONES & ASSOCIATES non-statistically significant 247
respondent poll and raise you by 550,000 NEWSMAX respondents!Numbers don't
lie!Please, Dan should know better, 247 respondents, TWO standard
deviations is virtually meaningless!
I tell ya'... all these elections and candidacies and political races sure
remind me a lot of Professional Wrestling. See some guys in fancy
clothes get in the ring, say strong words and make a few jabs. But in the end it
is really all an act.
To "Pagan | 8:23 a.m" But Obama was just following the agreement that
Bush made with the government of Iraq.From NPR we read "Bush To
Withdraw Troops From Iraq" written in September 2008.Go and
read up on the "U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement ", which was
finalized in October 2008 by Bush's advisors.
The Donald is indeed a self-serving publicity hound, but unlike our current
"choices" in the GOP, he alone ADMITS it. I'm no fan of Mitt. Huntsman
any day over Romney or Huckabee. Both of those guys are inconsequential and
devoid of reality. There are far better candidates for Utah GOP people to vote
for than Romney. How many of the LDS faithful here in Utah would vote for
Brother Harry Reid? See? Same difference, there's NO difference between Reid or
Romney except for the letters after their names.
'Umm, I thought Obama was the President now, and we're still fighting wars in
both countries. Does Obama have any plans that include getting us out of Iraq
and Afghanistan?' - Rifleman | 6:49 a.m. *'Last U.S. combat
brigade leaves Iraq' - By Rebecca Santana - AP - Published by DSNews -
08/19/10 Line:'Seven years and five months after the U.S.-led
invasion, the last American combat brigade was leaving Iraq, well ahead of
President Barack Obama's Aug. 31 deadline for ending U.S. combat operations
there.' Wow. So, when Bush said he wouldn't 'cut and
run'... he meant just until his term ended? I love how
'Obama's president now'... and I guess that means Republicans don't
have to take responsibility for two wars based on lies. Obama
INHERITED those wars. Obama did not start Iraq and Afghanistan. Republican leadership: 'I thought Obama was president now.'
Re: Pagan | 3:41 p.m. April 10, 2011 "Bush started the wars in Iraq
and Afghanistan .... and then left us there."Umm, I thought
Obama was the President now, and we're still fighting wars in both countries.
Does Obama have any plans that include getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan?
"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance
between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the
statesmanship of the day.""This country belongs to the people.
Its resources, its business, its laws, its institutions, should be utilized,
maintained, or altered in whatever manner will best promote the general
interest.' These 2 quotes from Theodore Roosevelt are as true in our day
as it was in his.I hope to see a statesman rise to the challenge today.
That is who I can support wholeheartedly.
I forgot to say in my last message that Trump is my favorite candidate, so far.
He speaks my mind.
Yes, in Utah we know what Republicans do....and no.....we do not like it! They
cave to pressure from churches and Chamber of Commerce. What an eye opener the
behaviour of the last Legislature was? I know for sure now to be very leery to
vote for one of them, locally or nationally. I will not vote for Romney,
Hunstman, nor any other religious candidate. The separation of Church and State
is very difficult for these individuals. I will not take a chance! Thank you!!
Republicans in the Utah's legislature. You have made an independent voter out
'The main advantage that Donald Trump has is his willingness to see the
importance of President Obama hiding his birth certificate and other records.' -
MarieDevine Divine-Way | 4:27 p.m. Reply fact:
*'Ex-Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims' - NBC - 04/10/11 'The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack
Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is
"real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called
"birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the
issue. "Its kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome
Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare
telephone interview with NBC.' If this is Donald Trumps 'main
advantage'... then he dosen't have one.
Trump won't run but maybe he can stir things up, asking for the real birth
certificate is a start, and how about opening up the college records where Barry
enrolled as a foreign student? At least when Trump asks the questions, the
lapdog media can't treat him like some wierdo from the backwoods. If the other
candidates started asking the same things maybe Obama would be forced to reveal
My recent comment was for ric2012 ---- you have no idea what you are talking
about Romneys belief.I Know Mitt Romney and you have misreresented his beliefs
about the Church.You either do not know Him or you have taken some other
ant-Mormon blog and believed it or you are delibertly representing untruth as
The main advantage that Donald Trump has is his willingness to see the
importance of President Obama hiding his birth certificate and other records.
Other possible candidates seem to ignore it along with the Democrats.President Obama already said his father was not an American citizen; that make
him a danger to our nation. We cannot have men from other nations and
ideologies impregnating American wemen and raising the child with foreign ideas
contrary to our nation. President Obama's policies of forced insurance and
other Socialist leaning ways makes this a danger we should not ignore.The real question might be, where are those brave enough to risk all for
There is a reason why the possible candidacy of Trump has caught national
traction. He can speak well, has more than a surface understanding of issues,
and could bring some amazing business talents to Washington DC. And, he might
be able to carry New York State in the election. If you don't want a second
term from the O-man, you should give Trump a serious look. I think
the biggest news in the poll is Huntsman's 15%. Where did his support go?
Re: you don't know what you are talking about.You are taking someone else
propaganda and acting like it is your own.
'They should support Ron Paul. He is the only guy that will pull us out of the
middle east completeley and clean up the mess Bush and Obama started.' - Anti
Bush-Obama | 3:13 p.m. Um, Obama started Lybia. which,
is now under NATO command. Bush started the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan. America has been in Afghanistan for 10 years. If you want to lump all of the 'middle east' conflicts, I would go with the
person who took us INTO Iraq and Afghanistan under false pretense...
and then left us there.
They should support Ron Paul. He is the only guy that will pull us out of the
middle east completeley and clean up the mess Bush and Obama started.
"Trump not popular among Utah GOP."Might as well have a
headline "the sun rises in the east." The only GOP
candidate Utahns will support in a primary is Romney. Nevermind his
MA healthcare plan provides state-funded abortions.
Let me guess....Donald Trump wins the nomination -- Next step: choosing a
running mate on Celebrity Apprentice.To be followed in the next few
episodes by.....Celebrity Chief-of-Staff and Celebrity Cabinet.He
has the makings of a long on-air run.....with likely much better ratings than
those being achieved by the current Celebrity Amateur.
I am not sure it matter if the primary candidate campaigns in Utah as there is a
very low voter turnout.Another thing I would like to mention is I
was part of the the very biased Deseret News poll last week. It was more like a
group of people getting together to gossip rather than a true poll. If I had requested or hired a company to do that poll I would expect a full
refund. There was no real way to get around Mitt Romney's name. Although
popular in the poll I am not certain that was the true feeling of those polled.
I am a moderate fellow, vietnam vet, about to retire from an adequate paying
job, father of three, supporter of my step-daughter, lover of flowers, balance
my check book, paid off my house, paid off my cars, I do garden, eat avocados,
like mayonnaise, drink skim milk, own four or five good pairs of pants, play
sports when I can, help my neighbors, chase down lost dogs, tell all babies that
they are cute, go to church on occasion, pray daily, often, and still love my
wife. I even burst into songs on a hourly basis.I will not vote for
Romney because he is not his own man. I will vote for Obama again because he is
calm and rationale, slow to draw out the gun from the holster, and still
believes we can make a better world.It is humorous to read on this
commentary page all of the "certainty" about life. Mitt, good or bad,
won't get nominated. Obama will win against whomever the GOP puts up. Things
are much clearer, shall we say, outside of Utah than in the loop along the
'In fact, most of the conservative Demos have left the party because it has been
taken over by socialists and extremists.' - oldschool | 11:09 p.m.
Um, what party does Hatch belong to now? What happened to
Bennett? What party did Sarah Palin cater too before the Republican
party? Of the two, I would say Republians have been taken over by
extremist's, the Republican Tea Party. I would vote for Trumps
hairpeice... before I would vote for Trump.
If Trump drops out, does that mean the end of his crusade to prove that the
President was not born in the USA? Will Mitt be able to carry on this
"vital" national security issue or will he rely on talking only about
religion and politics? Stay tuned.
Many Mormons would love to believe that the media reports of Mitt Romney making
that "Moses and the bush" statement, and of his demonstrations of
disdain for certain constitutional and moral principles are just a smear job.
Believe me, they were not. And his popularity in Arizona took a hit among
constitutional conservatives when he came here stumping for the 2010 re-election
of AZ Senator John McCain.
After the mess that big business has made of our economy, I'm hesitant to elect
any business man into the role of president.
Why is a Mormon Republican a bad thing and a Mormon Democrat isn't even on the
radar? (aka. Harry Reid)I'd vote for Trump just to hear him turn to
Obama on the first Tuesday of November and say, "Your fired."
Romney is nice but not good enough to win. Trump is not a professional
politician. We don't need another one in the WH. If Trump runs, I'm voting for
him. If he's in the WH, then appoint Romney as either VP OR as a member of his
cabinet. Let's be honest, a Mormon will NEVER be in the WH...unfortunately, but
it is true. Utahns need to realize that their state will never be the impetus
to put one in the WH. Be realistic folks. Trump would be a better choice than
say Obama...again. I think we all know about his "Change" policies.
He continues to destroy this country. He should be impeached, but then that's
for another discussion. The REP choices stink.
Both are media darling with two much money that are un-electable.
Donald Trump has always been about Donald Trump, whether it's pandering to the
media to promote his failing show or dumping his wife of 15 years for a newer
prettier version just to dump that one 6 years after that. He has no political
experience, he has no vision for the country and the only thing he is in the
news for now if for jumping on the "Let's make Obama prove he was born in
the U.S." train. Well that train left the station years ago.
Romney and Huntsman are politicians. It's time for a change. If he
runs Trump has my vote.
Wow. Condescending much, Jowers? People have opinions about Trump that prefer
him over Romney and that equates to them being all about wanting to be
apprentices or otherwise lightweight in their thinking?I would find
a cohesive "everyone for Mitt" poll result far more worrisome. Our
nation thrives best when those of many persuasions find common ground and
balance out our more inane ideas. Everyone in lock step would strike terror in
If Trump would retract favored trade status for China, balance the budget, make
BO show a real b.c. and oh, get that hair cut, I would vote for him. Since he
probably won't give up the hair, my vote will have to go to Ron P.
There is exactly one potential Republican candidate I can vote FOR -- Jon
Huntsman, Jr.If the Republican nominee is Palin or Bachmann or
somone of their ilk, I would hold my nose and vote against them even if that
meant a vote for Obama since Obama at his worst would do less damage than those
candidates (and I have no real use for Obama or most of his policies).Otherwise I will most likely do what I did last time -- write in "NONE OF
THE ABOVE" since there was nobody on the ballot that I could in good
@ric2012 and the rest of you Mormon Romney haters:You are the reason
we have Obama. Satisfied?? I figured so.
You have to remember the one with the most money wins. A scarry thought.
After what Romney did in Massachusetts By installing Romney care there's no way
I'd vote for him.Just let another northeastern politician in and everybody and I
mean everybody are going to see why. Higher taxes,higher everything,go and live
in the northeast sometime! You'll regret it big time.
All of you people in Utah who have your hearts all aflutter over Romney really
should do some research on the mess he left this state in. Go and study his
mandatory health care law that was passed. Do some research and find out what
the negative impact has been and will continue to be on the citizens, and that
includes families, of the Commonwealth. Think about how you would like to be
forced to buy health insurance at rates that go up every year even when salaries
do not (well except the salaries of the CEO's of those insurance companies) and
if you can't afford it you get fined. There are some who need the free care,
those who have lost jobs and those with disabilities, but you can also get free
care if you are an illegal alien. Sounds just peachy, doesn't it?
Personally, I'd be interested in seeing a poll including the 2-time CPAC winner
over Romney - Ron Paul. I wouldn't be surprised if Paul's support has grown
enough in Utah to place him at least 3rd behind Romney and Huntsman.As for the alleged smear campaign about Romney not pandering correctly when he
said God hadn't spoken to man -- as far as he was aware -- since Moses, that's
not out of context. He *really* said such a crazy thing (precisely in that
context) during the last Presidential campaign in a local Boston interview
around Christmas of 2007. Certainly he doesn't believe that and he
misrepresented himself as he cracked under the pressure of all the intense
religious criticism and tried to humorously deflect it in a catastrophically
failed way.I agree with the many posters pointing out that the main
reason that Romney and Huntsman get such outsized Utah support is,
unfortunately, simply their combination of an "R" in front of their
name with their LDS activity. That certainly caught my interest as an LDS
Republican Utahn. But, despite those labels, neither is as good a match for my
politics as Paul.
Sorry, but after the uncannily timely Dan Jones poll that "showed"
that 70%+ of Utahns favored the 116 amnesty/"guest worker" bill, I
don't give Dan Jones even a bit of my attention. Besides, he didn't
ask me. And how fascinating that Trump supposedly is pulling a
"publicity stunt" to "promote himself," but of COURSE none
of the other candicates would POSSIBLY do such a thing.
What a one-sided story. Jowers is quoted as saying the only thing Trump has
done is bring up the birth certificate issue. False. Trump on Friday on
national television brought up at least a dozen issues that almost any true-blue
conservative would want. Whoever gets the Republican nomination will get my
vote over any liberal Democrat. And there's no chance that any conservative
Democrat will get his/her party's nomination. In fact, most of the conservative
Demos have left the party because it has been taken over by socialists and
Listening to Bill O'Reilly interview Trump on Fox, one thing was apparent: Trump
blustered and pontificated, but, when asked HOW he would accomplish solutions or
solve specific problems, had no specific answer. All talk, all publicity
stunting, no real substance.
Whats with all the Romney haters from Mesa Arizona? Its hard to believe that
Romney is LDS, yet doesn't belive in the revelations of Joseph Smith. I think
this is just another smear job by the media - taking things out of context.atl134 - thank you for letting us know who you are ... a
"progressive." Did anyone ever doubt it? Its not hard to be an Obama
fan when you are a progressive like he is. Lets redistribute boys.I
would vote for Trump above most candidates, especially Obama or Hillary.
Missed the "poll". I would no more vote for Mitt Romney than I would
Harry Reid. Same type of "political leader". Both appear to be
completely self-serving.Trump can at least run a business well and
profitably. Oh,but "Mitt saved the Olympics". Sorry,the Olympic Games
and being President of the United States have as much in common as being a
"community organizer" and President of the United States. I am active
LDS, consider myself a true conservative-NOT a "Utah Republican-tax and
spender" like those calling themselves conservative here in Utah.(they are
neither fiscal or political conservatives at all)Trump would be far better
than Romney,Reid, Huckabee, Palin, etc. I would favor Huntsman at this time over
any other Republican candidate, so far.At least he could communicate first hand
with the largest holder of US debt, noting all of the subtleties of the Chinese
language syntax.Mitt would try to make a "deal", because that's all he
knows how to do. Mitt Romney is no "Savior" of the United States at
all.I believe in prophecy, not in Mitt.
I would not vote for any of the three.
I still don't think Trump is serious. He's doing a publicity stunt. Why else
would anyone be as foolishly outrageous in the political arena.
"Mitt Romney's statement on an TV interview to the effect that the last
time he knew that God spoke to man was to Moses at the bush shoule raise a red
flag for all LDS voters in the United States."Wait he said
that? That's not even the last time God spoke to man in the bible. Come on
Romney pander correctly.
Utahns are so quaint in their belief that the world revolves around them. Even
the Gentiles among us are rooting for Huntsman, the Moderate.There's a
wide world out there with good candidates who aren't Mormons. Go figure.
I like Trump, he of course is a successful business man, but he also is tough
and he would not put up with things from other countries. Do I think he can
win, probably not, but I hope that by his running, he can help toughen up the
republican candidates that will be the front runners. More then anything, I
will vote for the person that I think could beat Obama.
I can't understand why LDS in Utah or anywhere else are so quick to support
someone who doesn't support the Constitution, even if that person is LDS. When
are we going to wake up and do what the scriptures ask us to do? How can we
support anyone who supports a socialist state sponsored health care plan?
Mitt Romney's statement on an TV interview to the effect that the last time he
knew that God spoke to man was to Moses at the bush shoule raise a red flag for
all LDS voters in the United States. His demonstrated disdain for certain
principles of the US Constitution we can excuse since that allegiance to the
Constitution seems no longer to be a principle of the Mormon faith.
This surprises nobody. I mean Mitt got about 85% in the primary against a full
field of candidates to choose from. The only one that can make a dent in his
power in utah is Huntsman. "Are LDS politicians ready to govern
the nation? "One of the top three ranking leaders in the nation
right now is LDS. As for president, Huntsman would do a good job I
would think (I'd still vote for obama since I refuse to let someone rubber-stamp
this crazy republican congress). Since I'm progressive and think that that means
he doesn't stand a chance in a primary for anything unless it's
"Democratic" and "Utah state senate". Speaking of which,
Huntsman... please take Hatch's senate seat.
If he runs against Obama, I'll vote for him.
I find it appalling that so many LDSs, including Mitt Romney, are unaware of
their divinely mandated obligation to defend, uphold, and abide by the
principles of the Constitution of the United States that the Lord and the
American Founding Fathers intended us to live under. So much of Mitt Romneys
political career is an example of this failure. But what can one expect from a
man who cannot even defend a major tenet of his own faith.
Are LDS politicians ready to govern the nation? I have my doubts. Please let me
explain. Go back to the days of Senator Garn. A more decent and competent man
you could not have found in government, yet the Garn- St. Germaine Act was a
disaster. The Savings and Loans were in deep trouble and in need of re-
regulation but not DE-regulation. Senator Garn assumed that all were as decent
and honest as he and those who attended church with him. But instead the Vernon
Dixons, Richard Keatings and others were just licking their chops. Read The Best
Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One by William K. Black. If business owners were a
fraction as good as Huntsman then Mitt Romneys faith in business would be
justified. But that just aint so. The country needs a Teddy Roosevelt more than
someone who is willing to trust in the invisible hand of unfettered capitalism.
Why is it that LDS people are so hung up on Mitt Romney for President? I and
many of my friends are active LDS and we will never vote for Romney for
President. He has denied any one receiving revelation since the time of Moses
and the burning bush and he supported, though he knew it was wrong, a State
sponsored socialist health care plan in Massachusetts. He DOES NOT support the
CONSTITUTION, and he should.
The only thing more frightening than Donald Trump for President would be Donald
Trump with Sarah Palin as VP.
Donald Trump, the Silvio Berlusconi of American politics.
Um, Lisa, a picture is worth a thousand words. Why didn't you just include a
small chart or graphic showing the results? We could have quickly seen the
results and then read your commentary. As it is, I'm still not sure what the
poll results really were.