Let me see if I understand this. The Utah Legislature passed a budget law that
required the closing of a number of profitable state-run liquor stores.Gov. Herbert SIGNED that into law.Then, when public outcry reaches
crescendo, and in the same way he backpeddled on HB477 (and will do with GRAMA,
too), The Most High and Honorable Governor Herbert has the audacity to insult
our collective intelligence with this:"Herbert, who has been
questioning the wisdom of closing stores that make money for the state, said the
plan to close stores 'is really causing anguish around the state and is, I
think, probably the wrong thing to do.'"Gov. Herbert. Why, may
I ask, did you SIGN the thing in the FIRST place???
FYI:Per Verispan and the NCSL, the state with the highest perscription
drug abuse rate is West Virginia, followed by Alabama, South Carolina,
Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisiana, Kentucky and Missouri. Those are also states
with above average alcohol abuse related problems. Utah is in the bottom half
of the list.Washington state has adopted several of Utah's liquor laws and
has a government monopoly on liquor stores. They recently closed several stores
In a culture that thrives and exists on setting itself apart, why does it
tolerate selling the demon rum when there are so many good psychotropics
around?Hint: Utah leads the nation in prescription drug abuse.What's
that you say? The state profits from alcohol sales?What the ...?LOL!
@Menace: Would you please stop making so much sense? People don't like those
who make sense. They just want you to believe what they believe!
In a state where free enterprise and capitalism are supposedly paramount why is
the state running a monopoly on liquor stores? Do capitalism and free markets
not apply to stores that sell liquor? The next question is why would
the state shut down an enterprise that makes them money to save money? That is
the very definition of counterintuitive.My friend who teaches logic
would have a field day with this one.
Typical. Let's close what is profitable and will create unemployment. Then
let's not. That way, we can say, "See Utahans, we're listening!"Sure, spend money to do an efficiency test.Suupid, stuupid,
More aggressive marketing, Ms Lockhart? By all means, let us be in the business
of trying really hard to sell even more of this poison on society!
Government run Liquor Stores= Big GovernmentInteresting to see
Republicans implementing SHaria Law on the people of Utah.
Oh PleaseThink about all the money, all the lives, and all the
heartache that would be saved if:Drivers did not operate motor vehicles
while using cell phones,People did not become obese by consuming so much
fast food, ice cream, soft drinks, and pizza,A certain President did not
start two wars based on lies.I'll support getting rid of beer and
cigarettes if we also get rid of fast food, ice cream, soft drinks, wars, and
cell phone driving. Cell phone drivers are killing thousands every year by
themselves and are catching up to drunk drivers quickly. And it's probably
In a perfect world.....think about ALL the money and lives saved and all the
heartache avoided if we did away with ALL liquor and tobacco. Just THINK about
it. What we could do with the billions of dollars wasted on this stuff. THINK
Hey gizmoWhile you're at it close all the ice cream stores fast food
and pizza joints because they cause obesity heart attacks and other health
issues that kill millions and increase health care expenses that raise my health
insurance rates when I live a healthy lifestyle and therefore do not gorge
myself on pizza fast food and ice cream why should I have to subsidize the
health expenses of those living unhealthy lifestyles by eating so much ice cream
pizza and fast food....
I think the State should get out of the business and allow grocery stores, etc.
to sell liquor. I'm not a drinker, but I don't think the State should be in the
Closing profitable stores is not a budget cut. You don't have to come up with
money to subsidize profitable stores. This is not about cutting the
budget. This is about something else. Any guesses as to the true reason the
legislature wants profitable liquor stores closed?
in response to Blue Bolshevik-I always shop at Wal-Mart close all the liquor
stores - cancer of society drunk drivers killing people 24/7 Ive never seen
anybody get drunk and run somebody over at Wal-Mart liqour destroys families.
and lives and its a burden on society .. and FYI Im not LDS - alcohol is not
tolerated in my enviroment or at company picnics or dinners or family reunions
if your going to close something down then close down the liquor stores drunk
drivers kill people not Wal-Mart and while your at it shut down all the tobacco
companys because their product kills people to not Wal- Mart and no I dont work
Absurd (AB-serd) adj. The act of allocating precious public funds to enable
citizens to drug themselves. In the face of DUI manslaughter, domestic
violence, serious liver, kidney and brain damage, and civic mayhem, elected
leaders take money from education, public services and debt relief in order to
provide liquor for those who want to engage in dangerous and unhealthy
I don't drink.But I don't see how it makes any good business sense
at all to close a government agency that MAKES money, especially when that money
goes to fund one of the most beleaguered government agencies in the state:
Just end the tight restrictions on only allowing liquor to be sold at state
facilities. That way this isn't an issue at all.
Here we go again---the politicians backtracking now that they feel the heat from
the public on another one of their stupid moves!!They didn't listen
to the testimony when they created the budget calling for the 2.2 million in
cuts--now they cover their tracks hoping that the public will forget this fiasco
and they can be reelected next time around.It is time that we get
rid of all of them and put in some people with some common sense.Bottom line--you don't close a business that is making money just to save
Simply amazing. Times such as these and our elected legislators are raising
taxes and taking away jobs. Who voted for these people?
If the stores are actually making money, as they claim. They should not need any
state money, but should be self sustaining. They should be able to run the
entire operation on profits made from sales with all excess profits going to the
schools. If they need state money to run the operation, that means I am
supporting the proliferation of alcoholism and DUI's with my tax money. Close
the government operation down and privatize it, that would solve the budget
issue and set up a tax on alcohol sales to go to public education. That way
alcoholics can support my 15 children in school with good habits and education
and I don't have to support their bad habits with my tax dollars.
SME, They are ALL money making machines...profits galore. If you want to close
one, close them all and let the free market decide.
When a business needs to cut expenses they look at what they most afford to cut.
When a government agency is forced to cut expenses they look for what will cause
the most public outcry so that they can get their funding back.
If they're so antsy about closing things, close WalMart, a cancer on small
businesses and communities.
Make sure the consultant is tasked to include consideration of the state getting
out of the liquor business entirely. It is inefficient and costly to taxpayers
and does no more to safeguard public health than if Wal-Mart sold liquor (like
they do in many states!).
Isn't it time for the conservatives to put their own mantra to the test on this
issue? For those who don't know what I mean - put the free market
to the test already and get out of the liquor business!