Kearns caretakers charged in killing of Christina Harms
For you folks who must look at everything through the lens of
"conservative" vs. "liberal", you're growing tiring. Please
remember that "the state" is nothing more than YOU. What if this type
of abuse were taking place at your neighbor's home? Have you involved yourself
enough in the lives of those who live right next to YOU that you would have
known been aware? Stop pointing fingers at all the "wrong" in the
world and just start BEING the example. Love your neighbor as yourself.
I envy you who say that you cannot understand this. I can. I have seen much
worse. I lived through a war where such depravity was common.Mental
illness in the abusers? Maybe. I would not jump too quickly to that
conclusion. Surely the defense attorneys will claim it. But why not just allow
for straight forward evil? It is but a far point on the scale. For some
reason, the abusers chose this girl as an expression of their hate. Who knows
why? Figure that out and you will know why so many Utahns favor ethnic
cleansing for illegal aliens. Same mind pattern, just a more atrocious degree.
What does this have to do with conservatism? Very much. The type
of conservatism that controls this state is but a few steps from totalitarianism
and dictatorship. The tea party is so far to the right that it has met and
passed the far left in its zeal for control and false freedom.
The depth of human cruelty never ceases to amaze me.
The reading comprehension and non-sequiter comments on this thread are
astonishing. They moved from out of state. How would DCFS even know
they were here? She was 22 years old. Not a DCFS case. They moved from out of
state. No other state agency would know. But if anyone knew, state, federal,
neighbor, ANYONE would've done something. These people are wicked,
evil. Period. Jail and death are both too good for them, but death, when it
comes, will send them to hell.
This is horrific and unimaginable treatment, even for a dog. The DLC (Disability
Law Center) should start its investigations with Utah's CWS (child welfare
services) where much of this is being allowed and with their knowledge. This
department in Utah are the real killers of children and adults who they have
investigated? and deemed false reporting.The child welfare service
are a for profit group of self interest greedy mongers. They ignore and overlook
a lot of reported criminal activity with children but turn a blind eye for the
fact that they don't want custody of the children and they get a share of child
support payments made by the so called dead beat dads and income garnishing
legal actions. They profit from others misery. And rather that turn over
reported criminal actions on children to legal authority, they act as a legal
authority to relocate children with problems with other family's with also
serious problems.Maybe its time that Utah legislators take another
look at this department and how much criminal strife and neglect is being
allowed. Then strip this group of being funded by their own private department
I am sick, how can people be so horrible. At least she is in the arms of her
Heavenly Father now.
What does this have to do with being conservative? This is horrible abuse. It
just makes me cry to think people can do this to another human being.
I've been opposed to the death penalty for years but, in this situation ...
This is why I am not a hard core conservative. Gov't does have a
responsibility to intervene in certain situations. This appears to an obvious
example. That is not socialism, it is humanity.
I will never, ever understand how multiple people could all agree that this was
appropriate treatment. It's shocking when there is one abuser, but more than
one is incomprehensible. I hope all three are locked up for life and the
juveniles receive intensive theraphy so they can fully heal and stop the cycle
of abuse from continuing. They need to know this type of behavior is not normal
and most certainly not okay.
Justducky, I thought it was the victim's mother too, when I first read this, but
the other woman in the house was apparently the mother of the woman who was the
abuser. Regardless, this was an absolutely incomprehensible situation. She was
obviously sexually abused, too, in order to have a child. Her body might have
been an adult, but her mind was not, so any sexual encounter would have been
rape, as she was incapable of giving consent. I wonder who the father is.Yes, many unanswered questions. I hope the abuser, and those who stood
by and did nothing, will receive an appropriate punishment, and also that the
children who had to witness such horrible events can be well taken care of, and
receive the counseling they will doubtless need in order to NOT become abusers
themselves. Very, very sad for all. At least the victim is now at peace, safe
Incomprehensible! And to think her own mother participated in the abuse
makes it even more horrific. It's hard to imagine what the victim must have
endured before she ultimately passed away.I agree with Pipes and
that was one of my first thoughts, how is it that a woman who can't even takes
care of herself has a two year old daughter? Did she give birth in a
hospital? I would think this situation would have raised a big red flag to
medical staff and Adult Protective Services would have been notified.This story makes you want to hug your kids a little tighter and to be more
aware of those in our society who lack the ability to protect themselves. If
something doesn't seem right, as a family member or neighbor, take that extra
minute to check it out.
Cut backs in medicaid don't help situations like this. Some people are just not
capable of taking care of disabled people. No excuse for what happened, but
Utah's record is nothing to be proud of. No case workers, no one
checking in on her? Who granted guardianship? There are a lot of questions in
Spechlees... completely speechless.
This all looks like serious mental illness.
How is it that a woman suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome so severe that she
can't take care of herself has a 2 year old daughter? Sounds like another form
of abuse took place over 2 years ago.
The only justice here is life in prison without parole. Execution would be too
easy for them. How could anybody do this to another human?
Truly scary stuff. How much of this was witness by the children, I wonder.