I really think there are some fundamental and core deep seeded issue with the
administration, the schools and the parents in the Canyons school district. For
the most part the students are victims of the adults bias. My kids are going to
the Jordan School district next year.
This is trumped up Political Correctness at it's worst.pictures were
NEVER sent to minorities, so there was no intent to intimidate anyone.just one friend sending pictures to his friends.believe it or not
people in this are free to hate and talk to others about it.the
left wing does it all the time.
I'm glad I'm not a school administrator, what a tough job dealing with all the
lawless and moral-less punks that populate our schools today. Where are the
parents of these kids and what in the world are they teaching at home that would
prompt a kid that this is OK to do? Meanwhile a probably good principal is
forced to quit. Shame on families and parents today and shame on society for
saying this type of thing is OK to try.
Liberal Ted 9:45 a.m.You realize these are teenagers... who's minds
don't work the way yours and mine do, right? They think_like_South_Park_and_MTV
(not_much_sensitivity).I agree they need to learn from this... but
do we need to be uber_harsh??? Criminal_charges???===I
hope this becomes a teaching_moment and a learning_experience for ALL of us...
but to do we have to get the POLICE involved? I don't know what good that does
ANYBODY.What happened to "Tolerance" and
"Forgiveness"? Is that out of the question?===That said.. I know Racism should not be tolerated... but are kids doing stupid
things illegal. Is what they did "illegal"? What actual
law did they break? Last I checked stupidity wasn't against the law... and
neither is being racist. If it was... KKK, Louis Farrakhan, Rev Williams, and
Jessie_Jackson would ALL be on death row.Have you heard some of the
hateful and EXTREMELY racist statements Lois Farrakhan and others have been
screaming to their audiences... to huge applause?I though
President_Obama promised to use his magical_abilities to IMPROVE this... I
haven't seen him say or do a single_thing to improve America's racial divide...
Fair enough, now is the Canyons District going to go and investigate every
single school in the district now for the same thing? If you really want to do
what is "fair" then go start looking into the same issues everywhere.
In fact, do it in every single school in Utah. Because I promise you, Alta is
not the only school (far from it) that has these types of issues going on.
Stay classy, Alta. I sure miss attending that school.
This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. This was a typical
teenage stunt that wasn't meant to hurt anyone. Stuff like this happens
everywhere. Only cuz were in gool ol' Utah does it matter to anyone.
@ JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt | 10:33 a.m. April 1, 2011Just
because it's "law" that does not make it correct--there's a big
difference!Yes, being able to "hate" is a right--a God
given right. Those of us who are members of the Church and declare that agency
is supreme, then attempt to fetter people's agency strikes me as being
hypocritical. Hate is neither good nor correct, but it is a right just the
same.If Congress passed a law that outlawed Mormons, would you
insist that we uphold that law, just because it's "the law"?This whole idea of thought police is nothing short of satanic, in my opinion.
Consider the following: "... because that Satan rebelled against me, and
sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and
also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only
Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down" (Moses 4:3).
VIRGINIA V. BLACK! you have no arguement "right or wrong." this is the
LAW! read it. please. if you have a problem, set up a meeting with the supreme
court. i hear they aren't that busy now a days.
So JJJHS, by your logic, showing a picture of a robbery would be a crime?
A while back I was surprised that these students were facing so much criticism
over putting a pillowcase on their heads since high school students could do
such a thing without realizing the possible misunderstanding it could cause. If
the information about the burning crosses (regardless of the size) on school
property is correct, however, I don't think there is any question that they were
imitating KKK practices. If the additional information is correct, the boys
should be charged. There is no room in our schools for that kind of behavior.
"John Adams | 10:11 a.m. April 1, 2011 Miami, FLYes, let's take
everyone's agency"So you are saying acts of hate and Racial
Intimidation are ok right? Just because it doesn't affect you?Somehow I suspect that if someone burned something of the LDS faith on your
front lawn in order to intimidate you then you would have a problem with it and
call the police wouldn't you?Article of Faith says to obey the law,
cross burning is against the law. Racial intimidation is against the law.
This is ridicules, "hate" as a crime is crossing the lines. Emotion
and thoughts are not crimes. No matter how disagreeable they are.Freedom is racing away, not slipping away. Political correctness is wrong. We
are free to love or hate, it is our choice and this is becoming absurd! Who
comes up with this stupidity? It seems more energy and effort is put
to things like racism as an emotion, than real crimes. I understand that if we
steal, injure, etc. but now it is how we think and feel that are being policed.
Where are all the "freedom" loving liberals that are for a "right
to choose", but now don't even want thoughts and emotions to be
hateful...talk about controlling! Where does it end?
JJJHS read the article they sent the messages to other white kids not black
kids..They didn't threaten others the way you want to portray it. Give it up,
save it for when there really is a threat. And Euroskeptic obviously you have
never had kids because if you have you would'nt be calling these parents
failures. But oh I forgot you're perfect and so are your kids..
virginia v black, everyone. look it up. don't be outraged about people following
since the D-News only will print the politcally correct posts have your way with
things libted and hope you're up to paying for cops to become pc police chasing
around kids who might send a picture of a burning cross to someone in the
attempt to bully and intimidate them. Great use of our tax dollars for sure!
Could the Canyons have handled this any worse? I think not.
Ah yes, those non-racially motivated burning crosses. To anyone who is on the
fence and thinking this is all overreaction and coming down too hard on kids who
are just being kids, I double dawg dare you to read the Larz Cosby blog and the
comments below it and maintain that stance.
Yes, let's take everyone's agency, then no one will be able to think, say, or do
anything that anyone else finds offensive. That will fix the problem.What a minute... that plan sounds vaguely familiar.
the supreme court deemed that any burning cross is considered unconstitutional
and against the law. look it up. its been a law for over 50 years. thank you
virginia v. black.
HELLO? Yes, racial intimidation is a crime. Sending images that threaten
others with racial messages is a crime. Wake up people. I bet you would all
have a different tone if images of Mormons being persecuted or texts celebrating
the martyrdom of Joseph SMith were being sent on phones.
@ Casey A - "I think that would make sense if it was clear the crosses were
supposed to be a racially motivated threat but outside of that I am not clear on
what the crime was."When is a picture of a burning cross not a
racially motivated threat? It carries the significance of racism in the country,
much like the swastika carries the significance of racism and genocide in
Germany. You can't separate the image from its significance,
regardless of whether it was aimed at an individual or group of individuals. These kids' parents have obviously failed them. Very sad.
I'm glad they're cracking down on anything that is racists. People should be
sensitive of the people around them.Maybe one day people will be
more tolerant of religion, and religions will be tolerant of each other.
Pretty sad state of affairs.
That sounds a little hypersensitive and nuts. They sent pictures of burning
crosses to other students and are being charged with a misdemeanor because of
it. I think that would make sense if it was clear the crosses were supposed to
be a racially motivated threat but outside of that I am not clear on what the
crime was. Anyone have insight?