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Published: Friday, April 1 2011 9:42 a.m. MDT

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CaseyA
Salt Lake City, UT

That sounds a little hypersensitive and nuts. They sent pictures of burning crosses to other students and are being charged with a misdemeanor because of it. I think that would make sense if it was clear the crosses were supposed to be a racially motivated threat but outside of that I am not clear on what the crime was. Anyone have insight?

EJM
Herriman, UT

Pretty sad state of affairs.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm glad they're cracking down on anything that is racists. People should be sensitive of the people around them.

Maybe one day people will be more tolerant of religion, and religions will be tolerant of each other.

Euroskeptic
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Casey A - "I think that would make sense if it was clear the crosses were supposed to be a racially motivated threat but outside of that I am not clear on what the crime was."

When is a picture of a burning cross not a racially motivated threat? It carries the significance of racism in the country, much like the swastika carries the significance of racism and genocide in Germany.

You can't separate the image from its significance, regardless of whether it was aimed at an individual or group of individuals.

These kids' parents have obviously failed them. Very sad.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

HELLO? Yes, racial intimidation is a crime. Sending images that threaten others with racial messages is a crime. Wake up people. I bet you would all have a different tone if images of Mormons being persecuted or texts celebrating the martyrdom of Joseph SMith were being sent on phones.

goody10
Cottonwood Heights, UT

the supreme court deemed that any burning cross is considered unconstitutional and against the law. look it up. its been a law for over 50 years. thank you virginia v. black.

John Adams
Miami, FL

Yes, let's take everyone's agency, then no one will be able to think, say, or do anything that anyone else finds offensive. That will fix the problem.

What a minute... that plan sounds vaguely familiar.

bgl
Santa Monica, CA

Ah yes, those non-racially motivated burning crosses. To anyone who is on the fence and thinking this is all overreaction and coming down too hard on kids who are just being kids, I double dawg dare you to read the Larz Cosby blog and the comments below it and maintain that stance.

plyxply
SLC, UT

since the D-News only will print the politcally correct posts have your way with things libted and hope you're up to paying for cops to become pc police chasing around kids who might send a picture of a burning cross to someone in the attempt to bully and intimidate them. Great use of our tax dollars for sure! Could the Canyons have handled this any worse? I think not.

goody10
Cottonwood Heights, UT

virginia v black, everyone. look it up. don't be outraged about people following the laws.

nomo
Draper, UT

JJJHS read the article they sent the messages to other white kids not black kids..They didn't threaten others the way you want to portray it. Give it up, save it for when there really is a threat. And Euroskeptic obviously you have never had kids because if you have you would'nt be calling these parents failures. But oh I forgot you're perfect and so are your kids..

Right or Wrong
Happy Valley, Utah

This is ridicules, "hate" as a crime is crossing the lines. Emotion and thoughts are not crimes. No matter how disagreeable they are.

Freedom is racing away, not slipping away. Political correctness is wrong. We are free to love or hate, it is our choice and this is becoming absurd! Who comes up with this stupidity?

It seems more energy and effort is put to things like racism as an emotion, than real crimes. I understand that if we steal, injure, etc. but now it is how we think and feel that are being policed. Where are all the "freedom" loving liberals that are for a "right to choose", but now don't even want thoughts and emotions to be hateful...talk about controlling! Where does it end?

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

"John Adams | 10:11 a.m. April 1, 2011
Miami, FL
Yes, let's take everyone's agency"

So you are saying acts of hate and Racial Intimidation are ok right? Just because it doesn't affect you?

Somehow I suspect that if someone burned something of the LDS faith on your front lawn in order to intimidate you then you would have a problem with it and call the police wouldn't you?

Article of Faith says to obey the law, cross burning is against the law. Racial intimidation is against the law.

Arizona2
Tucson, AZ

A while back I was surprised that these students were facing so much criticism over putting a pillowcase on their heads since high school students could do such a thing without realizing the possible misunderstanding it could cause. If the information about the burning crosses (regardless of the size) on school property is correct, however, I don't think there is any question that they were imitating KKK practices. If the additional information is correct, the boys should be charged. There is no room in our schools for that kind of behavior.

Right or Wrong
Happy Valley, Utah

So JJJHS, by your logic, showing a picture of a robbery would be a crime?

goody10
Cottonwood Heights, UT

VIRGINIA V. BLACK! you have no arguement "right or wrong." this is the LAW! read it. please. if you have a problem, set up a meeting with the supreme court. i hear they aren't that busy now a days.

John Adams
Miami, FL

@ JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt | 10:33 a.m. April 1, 2011

Just because it's "law" that does not make it correct--there's a big difference!

Yes, being able to "hate" is a right--a God given right. Those of us who are members of the Church and declare that agency is supreme, then attempt to fetter people's agency strikes me as being hypocritical. Hate is neither good nor correct, but it is a right just the same.

If Congress passed a law that outlawed Mormons, would you insist that we uphold that law, just because it's "the law"?

This whole idea of thought police is nothing short of satanic, in my opinion. Consider the following: "... because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down" (Moses 4:3).

lakerhater
Beaver, Ut

This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. This was a typical teenage stunt that wasn't meant to hurt anyone. Stuff like this happens everywhere. Only cuz were in gool ol' Utah does it matter to anyone.

MenaceToSociety
Draper, UT

Stay classy, Alta. I sure miss attending that school.

Uncle Sam
West Jordan, UT

Fair enough, now is the Canyons District going to go and investigate every single school in the district now for the same thing? If you really want to do what is "fair" then go start looking into the same issues everywhere. In fact, do it in every single school in Utah. Because I promise you, Alta is not the only school (far from it) that has these types of issues going on.

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