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Published: Thursday, March 24 2011 4:50 p.m. MDT

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mohokat
Ogden, UT

Gov. Herbert says, Decisions should be made on whats appropriate and not policially. Thats a real farce coming from a politician. Gov. made his decision based on what was coming from special innterest. And by the way Gov. most Utahans are not in favor of an amnesty(and that is what it is) and slanted biased polls will not make it so. I intend to work to see that you are not reelected.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Ex-Indian Affairs director Forrest Cuch was an at-will employee who failed to live up to expectations and who was terminated accordingly. Governor Herbert isn't about to apologize for taking the appropriate action.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

Hebert won't cop to any mistakes like signing HB477 or giving 13 Million $ for doing no work so he might as well not admit to making any other mistakes. Vote him out.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Gov. Gary Herbert said the referendum petition against HB477 and the just-formed working group evaluating the Government Records Access and Management Act are not enough in the effort to fix the controversial bill....' - Article

Don't apologize for firing the Indian Affairs Directtor Herbert.

Or HB477.

Or signing off on a $1.7 billion dollar I-15 project to a donor that gave you $80,000.

Or...

To my Republican friends.

Thanks alot!

Sarcaism off.

EJM
Herriman, UT

The first 4 posters are not people I usually agree with but we have found agreement in this issue. HB477 is a bad bill and our current crop of politicians on Capitol Hill should be replaced. If we don't we get what we deserve.

Anonymous Infinity
American Fork, UT

Wow. Look at the sourgrapes comments. You people ought to be in a state that has issues and budetary problems. This is just amazing. People working for the governor and then not fulfilling their responsibilities, being let go, etc. have no beef at all. He didn't have a contract. He was being rightsized. Soon there will be another to take his place. What's the problem. I agree that the UDOT situation is puzzling to say the least. Bidding should be handled some other way for highway projects.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

@JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt

The people had every chance to vote Governor Herbert out last November. Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon ran against him but he wasn't even able to carry Salt Lake County. The final election results you ask?

Herbert got 64.2% of the votes and Corroon came in with 31.8%. We call that a walk in the park.

And no, Gov. Herbert isn't going to apologize for firing the Indian Affairs Director.

NorthStream
Salt Lake City, Utah

I doubt Gov Herbert will receive over 2% of the votes in the next election because he is an employee of the people "who failed to live up to expectations."

Considering
Stockton, UT

There is nothing for which Herbert should apologize. He made a change in an at-will position. It is not materially different than what newly elected SLCo DA Sim Gill is doing over at the DA's office. The difference in party affiliation the two elected executives is not a material difference.

There are many positions which are merit and elected officials cannot fire at will. But there are some positions that are at will positions; essentially political appointments that allow elected officials to shape the operation of certain aspects of government to their liking.

It is true that Herbert may well face an uphill battle in re-election based on his signing of amnesty for illegal aliens with HB 116 and maybe even his initial support for GRAMA updates in HB 477. But that is irrelevant to whether he wants to retain or replace an at-will/political appointment.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

Herbert is a failure as a Governor and the only reason he won was not for strong leadership or giving away 13 million $, it was because he has an R by his name. Leadership Fail Herbert

Considering
Stockton, UT

@JohnJacob "it was because he has an R by his name."

I don't think that had much to do with his winning in GOP convention where all the candidates had an R by their name.

And the republican party can no more force people to vote republican in Utah than the democrat party can force people to vote democrat in California.

So why is Utah strongly Republican and California strongly democrat?

Might it just be because the Republican party most closely aligns with the majority of voters' values in Utah while the Democrat party does that in California? Or, at the very least, the GOP might be less offensive to Utah voters than is the Democrat party and vice versa in Cali.

I really wish we had two competitive parties in Utah. But the Democrats have defined themselves as the party of abortion, encouraging homosexual conduct, attacking the RKBA, and socialism. Maybe the Libertarians, or Constitution Party or some other third party can gain some momentum.

Until then, for someone in California to complain about one party holding a majority is really laughable.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
"the only reason he won was ..... because he has an R by his name".

Yes, JohnJacob, I'll concede that point to you. That was the same reason the Republican took U.S. House of Representatives back from Nancy Pelosi. It was the D by her name that done em in.

Doug10
Roosevelt, UT

thie governor has nothing stick to him. You would think he was not even there when the HB477 was passed. NOw sentiment has come up and smacked them and so they are backpedalling but not the govenor as he thinks it was the other people who put it into law. Wonder where he was?

The HB 116 which gives amnesty to the illegals he waves his magic wand and says it is a federal issue and dismisses the feelings of the people of the state. Those feelings were also ignored when he helped pass the bill but again now he tosses that to the feds and pretneds like he did not go in the face of the people who hired him.

Cuch got fired for sub par job performance...does anyone have the governors' bosses phone number?

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

' That was the same reason the Republican took U.S. House of Representatives back from Nancy Pelosi.' - Rifleman | 7:11 p.m.

But not the Senate.

yarrlydarb
Ogden, UT

There are way too many things that Gov. Herbert has and has not done to justify not voting for him ever again.

Some of us could see the problem with him as the top dog in Utah government before the last election.

Unfortunately that was before he demonstrated his true colors to all the world (Republican, Democratic, Tea Party, Independent, etc.).

With all that he has done and has not done since the election, including the HB477 fiasco, he'd have no chance if he chose to run again at the end of his current term.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Pagan

For what we have received we are truly thankful. And yes, Gov. Herbert can thank Obama for his 2 to 1 victory over Peter Corroon. If the Republicans are lucky Corroon will run again in 2012.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Gov. Herbert can thank Obama for his 2 to 1 victory over Peter Corroon.' - Rifleman | 10:13 a.m.

Can you prove that?

Or is this more speculation on your part?

Corroon ran as a Democrat. Not as Obama.

Utah has voted Republican for the last 26 years!

Is Herberts victory your 'example' of Republican dominance?

Herbert ran as a Republican, and won.
So did Huntsman
So did Walker
So did Leavitt
So did Bangerter

In fact, the last Democratic Gov. was in 1985.

26 years ago!

In fact, there have been 6 Dem gov's of Utah..out of 17. Not even half.

So, your 'example' is that Utah typically votes Republican only. Not that Herbert has done some 'exceptional' job here.

And you can 'thank' herbert...

for giving us HB477.
HB116
$13 million to a loosing bidder
$1.7 billion to the winning bidder
and getting $80,000 from the winning bidder on an I-15 project, to himself.

deseret pete
robertson, Wy

You who complain about the highway deal do not know the facts of the WHOLE situation. You only read one side that delivers their slanted view. Read both sides with an open mind an you will discover that the route they went was much cheaper for the taxpayer.Were mistakes made in the process?, yes but they did not result in someone buying a bid. If you actually understand and look into it instead of jumping to conclusions based on media headlines and inuendo's by uninformed or disgruntled people you will discover the truth and that will lead to reasonable and responsible reform to the bidding process so these things don't happen again. To accuse individuals of dishonesty without researching all the facts is not right.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'To accuse individuals of dishonesty without researching all the facts is not right.' - deseret pete | 11:26 a.m.

And how can we do that?

How can we reaserach something...

with HB477 in place?

John C. C.
Payson, UT

Governor Herbert, did Mr. Cuch fail in pursuing any of the following four statutory purposes of the Division of Indian Affairs?

(1) develop programs that will allow Indian citizens residing on or off reservations an opportunity to share in the progress of Utah;
(2) promote an atmosphere in which Indian citizens are provided alternatives so that individual citizens may choose for themselves the kinds of lives they will live, both socially and economically;
(3) promote programs to help the tribes and Indian communities find and implement solutions to their community problems; and
(4) promote government-to-government relations between the state and tribal governments.

Governor Herbert believes it is the duty of the Division of Indian Affairs to
(1) be subordinate
(2) represent the governor's office.

If no good reason exists for firing Mr. Cuch or a good reason exists and you continue to hide it, you have violated statutory reason (4) for the existence of his division.

You, and you alone, decide who is fit to lead this division. Utah Indian tribes, and they alone, decide if you care about them.

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