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Published: Thursday, March 17 2011 9:29 p.m. MDT

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AlanSutton
Salt Lake City, UT

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'Lobbyists are not allowed inside House and Senate chambers during the legislative session, but text exchanges between lobbyists and legislators gives them access and power that would be unseen by the public under HB477.' - Article

*'E-mail raises new questions about influence of Herbert campaign contributions' - By John Daley and Lisa Riley Roche - DSNews - 09/28/2010
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'SALT LAKE CITY Gov. Gary Herbert "should remember" that the construction company boss on his meeting schedule is a $50,000 first-time donor who wants to talk "about transportation construction and issues within the state."

Herbert gets $50,000 in donations.
The donor gets a I-15 contract worth $1.7 billion.

Also, HB477 would PREVENT email searches, unless justification was given and fee's were paid....


just 6 months after the emails raised questions about, said donor and it's effect.

hello_utah
slc, utah

Isn't this legislation in conflict with Federal FOIA acts anyway? Won't the state waste hundreds of thousands of our money defending this bad legislation in federal lawsuits? What a stab in the back by our corrupt leadership. Et tu Legislature...

byronbca
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't think Utah republican politicians understand their voters very well. I have liberal leanings but I grew up in a conservative gun wielding household and one thing that I know about Utah republicans is that they hate government secrecy just as equally as liberals. When my dad and I agree that a bill is altogether evil it truly must be.

Just tell me how and where to sign this petition and I'll bring my whole conservative family with me.

stowaway
Salt Lake City, UT

Jordan High School. Tonight 6 p.m.

libertarian
Cedar City, UT

"The enemy of my enemy is. . ."
Interesting how a common enemy can bring opposing sides together. It looks like the legislature has done exactly that. The only winners will be the lawyers (as usual) as the lawsuits fly.

flynn is the coolest
Salt Lake City, UT

I never thought I'd see the day when Utah government become self serving.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

I can't believe I'm typing these words. But I am actually agreeing with Ross Anderson on this. There I did it. It's typed out. This might be the only common ground that I will ever have with Ross.

Government needs to be transparant and open to the public. I'm not saying national security and their personal private conversations. But, for the most part we should have access and knowledge on how decisions are made and who is influencing those decisions.

At the same time, even politicians need the ability to have a private conversation that is not broadcast to the world. But, if they're accepting bribes and making deals, we should know about it.

If they wanted to debate a topic and get their thoughts and ideas together, that should be private. If they're meeting with a lobbyist then it should be public...

It will be interesting to see how they divide what is public and what is private.....

Paul H
West Valley, UT

Delaying the implementation date of HB477 was totally meaningless.
Scheduling a work group do discuss HB477 is meaningless.
Calling a special session to repeal it NEXT WEEK would be a step in the right direction.

Wayne Rout
El Paso, TX

If Rocky Anderson and the Democrats are in favor of repeal, we know that repeal will be bad for Utah.

Rainman
Syracuse, UT

I think the government should be able to hide whatever they want from the public. They know what's best for the people. If they say we don't need to know something, I'm sure it's for a very good reason. I mean, they would never do anything sneaky or underhanded. Seriously, why this lack of trust for our fine politicians? I just don't understand it! I love living in the United States of China.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

'If Rocky Anderson and the Democrats are in favor of repeal, we know that repeal will be bad...' - Wayne Rout | 3:33 p.m.

Isn't that WHY Utah got Herbert, who signed HB477 into law. Preventing transparency from lawmakers to you....

and why George W. Bush was elected, and signed the Patriot Act, TSA?

Which allows the goverment to do warrentless searches to your property, emails, phones and person?

Just keep voting that 'R' there....

Cedarite
Cedar City, UT

Wayne, when exactly did complete secrecy and darkness in government become a conservative ideal?

MenaceToSociety
Draper, UT

I'm sure there is a fan of HB477: The Kremlin. This bill sounds like Soviet Union-esque government secrecy and corruption. Buttars had an issue with what type of government we are. Maybe the legislature thinks we are a Soviet socialist republic? The Utah State Socialist Republic (USSR)?

berf
Perry, UT

You know something is wrong with a bill when you have Rocky and the Tea Party and the Women League of Voters shaking hands. Wake up legislators. This will be an election issue. Did you or did you not vote for this bill? We (Republicans and Democrats alike) will not forget! If you voted for it and chose not to do anything you will be replaced. We need to make sure that the voting records are clear.

Orem Parent
Orem, UT

Every legislator that passed this better get voted out.

Either they were scared to vote their conscience or they were too dumb or lazy to understand what they were doing.

Now we are going to waste way too much $$$ on this mess when it could have been going to our schools where it is desperately needed.

Time to clean house.

The pride cycle is coming around full circle once again.

La Tortuga
Murray, UT

You know how you know you're wrong? You've got Rocky Anderson and the Tea Party joining forces against you... I think hell just froze over...

So-CalAggie
Anaheim, CA

Don't stop with the repeal of the bill, go after the guy who wrote it and those who supported it too! It's time people sent their lawmakers a message that they can no longer act without impunity just because they have an "R" (in Utah - or a "D" by their name in States controlled by the Dems). It's a good lesson why people should think before they vote and consider the person, not the party. Problem you get with a supermajority is that those in power start to think they can push forward any piece of legislation they want and no one, no constituent will say a word about it! Its wrong for all parties to think this way. It's why a balance to be struck when voting in State elections is a good thing. Too many people head to the polls with their blinders on and punch the strait ticket. No matter what your party affiliation is, this is wrong! Vote the person, not the party, and don't give any one party that much control and power! Remember vouchers? Those lawmakers still think you were wrong about that.

Justmythoughts
Richfield, UT

I never thought I would agree with Rocky Anderson about anything....I guess I was wrong. This bill needs to be repealed. The state legislature have totally over-reached. It's time for a few of them to lose their jobs.

zeus
West Jordan, UT

What a bunch of stand up dudes. They got a B+ and those gosh darn teachers are causing our society to collapse...so back off people!!!

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