Re: "Rifleman" 7:14I would agree but, they have polluted
the process of elections that things will never change. Voters know this, that
is why they do not vote, (the lowest in the nation).Our legislatures
are for themselves and their friends. They will not give up their power, (to the
victor goes the spoils). To heck with the rest of us.
From a previous post: "Channel 4 did a poll to see if people thought the
session was a success. 90% thought it was a failure. Does this tell you how
out-of-touch these people are?"While it is usually good to
focus on the positive, that may be hard to do. Certainly I havn't seen a lot
have of people come to their defense.I do know some of their actions
have continued the feeling "Those carzy Utah people" that abounds. We
have very little influence amoung the states and I doubt that our "B+"
legislature has helped that very much. I have been in meetings where business
expansion was considered & Utah was mentioned and even showed that it would
be profitable, they choose not to come because they did not feel good about the
governing of the state regardless of the grade they give themselves.I give myself a A+ also, but I doubt that everyone else would agree (maybe my
2 year old granddaughter who thinks I'm great.)My opinion is from
the point of view of a Utah resident (who has lived in many other places), that
B+ is inflated and not right!
Vote them all out...My grade for them: "J-"(I see
them as getting between 2% and 3% for the term.Lower than an
"F" -- It's a "J-"...
Re: Mom of Seven | 2:40 p.m. March 12, 2011 You had your chance to
vote them all out last November. You can thank Obama and Obamacare for the
Republican surge both in Utah and across the USA. It didn't help
the Democrats in Utah any when their candidate for Governor, Peter Corroon,
was't even able to carry Salt Lake County.
This is why we never let kids in school grade their own papers. How absolutely
pathetic. They are very corrupt and I want them all voted out. We need to get
some honest men up on Capitol hill.
Channel 4 did a poll to see if people thought the session was a success. 90%
thought it was a failure. Does this tell you how out-of-touch these people are?
We've known for years that the invasion of this country and our state is a very
serious problem; so what does the Legislature do? They figure out a creative
way to make it even worse! It's obvious that they're pandering to special
interests, and that many of them are suffering from extreme dilusional
thinking--but it goes on and on and on, year after year. Maybe we need to work
harder to find some people who actually represent us on Capitol Hill.
The legislators giving themselves a B+ and not D+? It is more than people voting
these legislators out of office. Some dont get the real acid test during the
process here in Utah. When legislators are elected, especially if they are up
for reelection, they dont have too much competition within their District. At
the caucus and county and state convention, if the individuals get 60 percent of
the delegate votes, the candidates dont even have to runoff in the Primary.
That means they are usually pretty much elected in most Districts, Counties and
the State as they dont even have a Democrat running against them, except in Salt
Lake City and some of the County areas. There is not really a plurality in
Utah. I used to think one could be involved in the caucus and as a delegate and
work from within the party. At the last caucus, we had about 80 people in the
meeting when we have had as few as 6-9 individuals in some years. The
legislators, including retreads and some with many years in their position, feel
that they are there because of the intellect and abilities.
How can we force open primaries? I see the lack of primaries as the major
problem with getting rid of these people.
Next time you follow someone plodding along in the fast lane or signalling left
for seven miles, think about how they would answer the question "are you a
good driver?" Of course they are. Just ask them. Same thing applies here.
I give them an F, with a few other letters after (if you know what I mean).
Let us not forget this session and how WELL our lawmakers listened to us.
Republican or democrat will not matter if we change the nominee at the
convention. Don't let this travesty be forgotten. This session of the
legislature must be the last one for all of these people.
Maybe they graded themselves on their efforts to save the "Republic"
from a "Democracy" where the masses can take the hard earned money
from the Koch Brothers and redistribute it as taxes to fund entitlements to
those who won't work.
I agree with almost all of you on this post!! However, what are you going to
do about it?? Have you got enough guts to campaign against these people in the
next election?? If not, just shut up and go back in your hole!! The reason
this happened is that you go to the ballot box with your friends and keep
putting in the same people over and over until they think they know best what is
good for us.And sadly, our governor is more concerned with an
upcoming election than in doing what is right for the citizens.Right
now this is a sad state to live in!! I, for one, am going to do my best to get
some real citizens elected to our legislature next time around.Will
you do your part?
Another indication that they have been brainwashed with Republican party dogma
so long that they have lost touch with reality.
Back in high school when my teacher let ME correct my own papers I ALWAYS seemed
to be a straight A student.Since then, others have demonstrated to
me that I'm not as smart as I thought!Lawmakers: LISTEN to your
Of course they do. They are the most pompous and arrogant bunch we have ever
had on the hill. Shame on us for electing these arrogant buffoons.
What arrogance! Why do they get to grade themselves? They are so disconnected
from the people they are supposed to serve that they have the audacity to
preemptively grade themselves. I give them an F on ethics; an A on their smoke
and mirrors games; an F on their support of teachers; and an F- on transparency.
Overall, they deserve an F.
Nice to see that the people disagree. Now if we will only transfer this to the
Honestly, what came out of this session, that had the welfare of Utah's citizens
in it? 477, let them hide the backdoor sessions and not talk about it? Or maybe
still allow illegal immigrants to drive? No e-verify to protect jobs? Come one
come all Guest Worker Program for illegal immigrants? No programs for citizen
jobs? Still waiting on enforcement measure for illegal immigrants? We still pay
tuition for Illegal Immigrants? Nothing for citizens was involved in this
session. Nothing!I think the deserve an At in backroom deals and
successfully cheating the citizens out of protection and jobs.
Sadly, the only place any of this will matter is here. We are all ticked off,
but not enough come election time to do a thing about this session. Next
session, January - March 2012, they will make sure they do not pull the stunts
pulled this round because the entire House and a number of Senators will be up
for elections. They may sneak some stuff in because they assume we will all be
obsessing about whomever the GOP runs against President Obama, but they will
generally watch their step. These people actually believe they represent the
people of Utah, but, as was evidenced in the 2011 session, it felt a great deal
like they played rulers and we were expected to be loyal subjects. Vote 'em out
in 2012 if you really are tired of the same old thing and worse year after year.
Don't let R and D blindness determine your vote.
This just shows how little the legislature knows about being a teacher.B+?These guys should be no where near an education system. Pat
yourselves on the backs all you want but this was a poor legislative session.
One that made me sad to call myself a Republican. There was too much
micromanaging put into place and too much taking away of local control.
Especially when it comes to education in our state. The legislature just needs
to get out of the education business completely except for the funding. Even
that part they don't do well. In fact if I were a teacher grading funding on a
curve, Utah would be at the very bottom.
When it comes to this Legislature "We Have Been Jimmered"!!
It is too bad the Deseret Media Corp., the Salt Lake Chamber, and the
legislators work behind the scenes on issues like immigration and then the media
complains about the openness of the legislators.
What do they think they are on Saturday Night Live. I didn't read the story the
headline said it all. You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig.This may very well be the biggest fraud ever loosed on Utah!!!
How arrogant can they get, I'd give them a large double bold F minus. They
failed at every issue and accomplished nothing about our economy and over
spending. In fact they mad everything worse. Michale Waddupps, you
have had your last election you turncoat traitor as you have turned your back on
your constituents, the citizens of this state and Taylorsville for the last
time.The legislators this session seemed to have given Utah citizens
the impression that Mexico voted them in to office and they now work for the
Mexican government and illegal Mexicans hiding from the federal government in
Utah sheltered communities.This legislative session has stripped the
citizens of Utah of more civil and constitutional rights by destroying our right
to petition our government. However, they also have not enforced the
constitutional law that prohibits illegal aliens from organizing and petitioning
and terrorizing citizen and government leaders in a government they have no vote
in. This is evidence of failure to listen and failure to obey the will of the
citizens. The will of business and illegal aliens is none of the state
legislators concern, it is the citizens 'will' they should fear.
In regards to that last quote where Waddoups said, "Our whole lives don't
need to be public"; that may be true sir, but the PUBLIC servant part of
your life should be public. Get a personal cell phone, email account, pager
number, facebook page and what not if you don't want the world to know. But if
you're making calls on a taxpayer provided phone to a corporation about a
taxpayer funded contract or something else that effects us, we have a right to
know. Please look outside the Capitol to see that not many Utahns are giving
you a B. The arrogance is truly astounding.
The most important thing is that we can shoot a feral cat with our state gun.
Seriously?The sad part is they honestly believe this.This has to go down as one of the worst sessions in state history.Stripped away from the teachers what little they had left, took away the
public's rights to know what their own representatives are doing, allowed guns
at schools.A solid D-.Pathetic.
B+? It's definitely a strong F-
I'm not sure I can even comment with the gall these legislators display.A grade of a B or B+??? HB 477 alone was a solid F.Then you throw in HB 83, SB 59,SB 73,SB 97,SB 206,SB 256 and the list goes
on.My grade?? D- with a citizenship grade -- Needs Improvement,
should show more concern for others, doesn't interact well with constituents,
uses cell phones openly in class getting secret messages.I'm
Big Fat D is what the deserve (opinion of a tax payer)
How many jobs did they help create? Why didn't the legislature cut their
benefit package to save the state some tax money?
Talk about narcissistic, self-serving hogwash. The repeal of GRAMA has angered
and frustrated most Utahns, and you give yourself a B+? I'd give them a D-...and
that's being nice.
If legislators can grade themselves, why won't they let schools grade