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Published: Wednesday, March 9 2011 3:55 p.m. MST

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JP
Chandler, AZ

And I thought that we had the worst legislators in the country down here in Arizona. Thank you Utah, for making Arizona look good.

Miss Piggie
Nuevo Leon, Mexico

"But the governor says his action has created time for an open dialogue that he believes will produce a better bill."

Baloney! His action is so that the issue will be dropped from the front page of the news paper and fade from public interest.

Secrecy in government is the fist step toward a tyrannical autocratic government. It has been said that watching the legislative process is like watching sausage being made. I suppose if we knew what goes into sausage we wouldn't want it... Same with some laws. Someone needs to watch the entire process. The bill that Herbert signed will put a damper on that process. Not good.

Sank You, Doctor
Salt Lake City, UT

Gov Herbert -

Really? Couldn't you think of some other excuse for signing it or just say that you too do not want your texts and e-mails open for public view?

Do you think we are dumb? Give us more time to talk about it...if you were serious about that, you would have vetoed it and told the legislature to start over with serious discussions - not just ram it through. We see through you, Gov Herbert. Time will tell if this is the straw that makes you an ex-gov.

I am not voting for you.

Jared
Gainesville, FL

But a veto would have been even better for "allow[ing] more time to discuss further changes." You shouldn't pass laws first and then figure out what they'll actually do later. Figure it out first, then pass, then make changes if necessary. It's pretty simple.

JustinSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

This bill was rammed through the Legislature without any real discussion or debate. Now, thanks to Governor Herbert's signature, it's the law of the state of Utah. The proper course of action for the governor was to veto the bill, then discuss the issue over the summer and fall, and reintroduce the legislation in the next session. Unfortunately, there are no brakes on the system in Utah anymore. There are no checks to the majority rule.

EJM
Herriman, UT

So why couldn't he have vetoed it and said "Let's do the special session anyway?" By signing off on it he can try to save face with the Republicans in the state legislature and somehow explain away why he didn't veto it. As a result, he made everyone made during this process. True leadership isn't afraid to say no. True leadership gets out in front on issues that no one else wants to deal with. Time for not only a new state legislature but a new governor. Sorry.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

Just keep explaining yourself Herbert.

It dosen't change the fact that this bill never should have gone through...

and only reinforces that this was the wrong choice that you made...

and reinforces the question of why people voted for you.

cns
St George, Utah

Herbert's explanation makes no sense to me.
If he disagreed with the bill he should have either vetoed it outright or pocket vetoed.
It's good that there will be further consideration of the bill this spring but if the further consideration does not produce a "better" bill then the bill that was passed and signed will go into effect.

Pagan
Salt Lake City, UT

*'E-mail raises new questions about influence of Herbert campaign contributions' - By John Daley and Lisa Riley Roche - DSNews - 09/28/10
Line:
'SALT LAKE CITY Gov. Gary Herbert "should remember" that the construction company boss on his meeting schedule is a $50,000 first-time donor who wants to talk "about transportation construction and issues within the state."

So, Herbert has to also defend the campaign contributions he got BEFORE the same donors get awarded a $1.7 billion dollar I-15 project...

and then, 6 MONTHS later HB477 would have factually prevented the release of his same emails.

Shame on Herbert.

And shame on those who vote for him.

CTRMAN
Grantsville, Utah

What about the freedom of information act? come on gov do your job and dont do your job based on winning more votes. serve the citizens of this state like you swore to do. My taxes along with others taxes pay your wages and keep this state running so we have a right to see what you guys are doing because we pay for the phones and the paper. Do your job and stop brown nosing for votes.

Furry1993
Somewhere in Utah, UT

Don't blame me for this. I didn't vote for Herbert.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

I guess this bill couldn't wait until next year so that it could be thoroughly researched and all compromises met. What's the big rush??? Who is trying to hide the next scandal?

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

Is there any Utahn who is not a legislator, who likes this bill and if so, why?

Capt. Smash
Bountiful, UT

Utah, Utah this makes this state look like some sort of hard nose 3rd world country. Come on people we can do better than these corrupt leaders. please.

Thucydides
Herriman, UT

passing a law so that it can be changed? what I am missing here? I must be as stupid as the governor thinks I am.

Utah, why are we putting up with this?

Resolute Voice
Salt Lake City, UT

No further inquiries will be required. The bill has been signed. There will be no changes, no debate, no disclosure. Mr. Herbert has assured us all of one thing, government is not ours to scrutinize or question. Not even the Democrats voiced concern over this bill. How does freedom die? With thunderous applause by our legislature as they congrtulate each other on a job well done.

majmajor
Layton, UT

Just like the Federal Healthcare legistation, bad laws are passed and extended into the future. This is one of the big issues with having a one-party system; there is no effective counter-balance to stupid laws.

This law is also a sign of a "bunker mentality" and political cowardice. "Oh no, the scary media is going to tell on me!" What makes the legislature think that they are special and deserve some kind of protection from the voters?

This is yet another example that both parties are crazy and need each other to keep from doing something stupid.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

It seems like this should be a ballot initiative. If the government is trying MY access to records, they shouldn't be the ones deciding that. That is similar to a child unilaterally deciding his parents aren't allowed in his room, and then enforcing that.

MenaceToSociety
Draper, UT

Sign the bill, then claim to work on fixing it? That is completely backwards. Veto it, then fix it.

This sounds shady. Good way for legislators to use their offices to enrich themselves and their friends with tax payer money without tax payers being able to find out about it.

FreeThinker
Magna, UT

This explanation makes absolutely no sense to me. In order to take more time to hash things out, would not a veto have been more effective? Thank you for taking time to explain your reasoning, Governor Herbert, but I come away feeling like Oliver, and wanting to ask, "Please sir, I want some more." The more being a more substantial explanation.

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