2010 Census details Utah growth; West Jordan now 4th largest city


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  • wrz SLC, Utah
    Feb. 25, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    @pikap1868: "Unless LDS missionaries are Federal employees they won't get counted, nor should they."

    Let's see... Rahm Emanuel, now mayor-elect of Chicago, left town for two years to work in Washington, D.C. In order to run for mayor a candidate has to reside in the city for a period of time just preceding the election. He didn't. How did he get elected, then? Political pull. Perhaps if the LDS Church have more political pull they could get the rules changed.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 4:10 p.m.


    why shouldn't they? Who made the rule? Is it in the constitution? was it passed by congress? Being on the census webpage does not make it the law, just their rule - from whence cometh the rule?

    You cite the webpage, now cite the legislation or article in the constitution.

  • pikap1868 Layton, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 3:59 p.m.

    @pikap1868- No, your comment doesn't make sense. Everybody knows that all people dwelling in U.S. residential structures are counted in the census. Don't you know what census means? Ha ha...

    Anyone want to share this crow with me? :)

    @Considering, Liberal Ted, Still Blue after all these years- This is from the U.S. census website: "Private U.S. citizens living abroad who are not affiliated with the Federal government (either as employees or their dependents) will not be included in the overseas counts. These overseas counts are used solely for reapportioning seats in the U. S. House of Representatives." Unless LDS missionaries are Federal employees they won't get counted, nor should they.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 2:27 p.m.

    LDS have a lot of children, its surprising to me that hispanics have even more. I would guess in a few decades they will be a major political force. This isn't really bad, in a generation or two they blend in. Its not like they do honor killings of family members, or are prone to terrorism.

    As for gangs, If you watch the history channel they do history segments about gangs. Many minority gangs were begun as a way to defend the members. They started out as just a group of kids who would defend each other in the event one of them got picked on.

    If we want to avoid this, we need to teach the golden rule at home to our own children and practice it too. If we wouldn't want educational opportunities withheld from our own children, we shouldn't withhold it from theirs. If we do they will find other ways to "make a living" that will become a generational thing and won't agree with our sensabilities.

    In other words, why would we want to plant the seeds of a problem that doesn't have to exist?

  • GoodGuyGary Houston, TX
    Feb. 25, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    If the Latino population is here in Utah legally, people should always welcome them.

    But, if they are here illegally, please show them the back door.

  • Still Blue after all these years Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    I agree with Considerng from Stockton. Makes complete sense. You cannot wait for the federal government to do anything right. This is blatantly anti-mormon, no different than 1838. Just take care of it yourself. And for those that disagree, then at least we know what kind of bigot you are.

  • beetdiggingcougar Provo, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 12:27 p.m.

    Wow pikap1868, you sure have your facts straight. Anyone can vote while out of the country, it's called an absentee ballot. While on my mission we got a message from SLC telling us to apply for one. Guess that ruins your argument, huh?

  • RED23 Layton, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    @pikap Missionaries can vote when outside of the country. I personally voted in the 2004 Election from the Orient as an absentee voter. If you make any sort of money off of investments, interest, etc. while serving a full-time mission you report it to the IRS and if anything is owed on that you still must pay. They are still counted as dependents on their parent's taxes. You can still receive a jury duty summons, although they excuse you for reasons such as temporarily out of the country.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    oops "residents" not "residentes" - sorry

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:32 a.m.


    Yes, it does count illegals - it counts all residentes, legal or not.

    Hey DN, why not give the total population for the state?

  • common sense 11 Lehi, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:19 a.m.

    @ Liberal Ted.

    Please try to keep all the uninformed, miseducated answers as far away as possible from the Deseret readers. Theres already enough of those comments.

  • Alfred SLC, Utah
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    "Hispanics now make up 13 percent of Utah's population a 78 percent increase over the count in 2000 by the U.S. Census Bureau."

    Perhaps it's time to stop immigration, especially the illegal kind lest the ethic balance becomes upset. And here's the reason why:

    "Tony Yapias... said the young Latinos are coming to Utah to work and raise their families. ...noting the growth could lead to a significant voting block by the next decade."

    At which point Hispanics will have the power and vote to see that more and more immigrants of Senior Yapias' native ethnicity are allowed in. Can you say 'buenos dias?'

  • Considering Stockton, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    The solution to the issue of counting missionaries is for their families to simply include them.

    As yourself these questions:

    1-Do you consider your missionary a member of your household? Does s/he receive mail/bills at your address? Does s/he have a room or bed there? Does s/he have personal property at the home? DO you, and s/he, fully expect that s/he is going to return to your home at some point in the not too distant future?

    2-Is your missionary going to be counted on any other census? It is one thing to get counted in another city/State and we would not want to see someone counted twice. But if s/he is not going to be counted at all has s/he not lost some portion of constitutionally entitled representation for the next 10 years?

    This is very simple. When the census form comes, you just include your foreign serving missionary as part of your household. In virtually every case, it has been less than a year since s/he left the home, OR less than a year until s/he expects to return.

  • justcap Provo, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    According to the census website, the counties with >100k are:

    Salt Lake- 1,029,655
    Utah- 516,564
    Davis- 306,479
    Weber- 231,236
    Washington- 138,115
    Cache- 112,656

  • pikap1868 Layton, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 9:57 a.m.

    @Liberal Ted- Your comment doesn't make sense. The U.S. Census is a count of U.S. citizens, not illegal/non documented immigrants are counted. That has never happened and it never will. As for the missionary-thing, if they can't vote when outside of the country then aren't counted when outside of the counrty.

  • AggieNation St.George, Utah
    Feb. 25, 2011 9:25 a.m.

    Cache county has about 115,000

  • AggieNation St.George, Utah
    Feb. 25, 2011 9:22 a.m.

    Scratch that, it has about 140,000

  • AggieNation St.George, Utah
    Feb. 25, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    Washington County has about 170,000 residents. Much larger than Tooele.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    On the news it said Tooele county is the 4th largest county with like 58,000, but I'm pretty sure washington county has over 100,000.. Anybody know?

  • Rickety Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    One reason Utah wants missionaries counted is that in 2000 it did make a difference. Other states don't have the same numbers on missions. To deliberately ignore 10,000 residents is somewhat puzzling unless there are some other factors at play that we don't know about.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 5:48 a.m.

    I agree with Bishop. They'll count illegals, but, not US residents that are out of the country temporarily? That doesn't make sense.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 25, 2011 12:33 a.m.

    In total agreeance with the Cencus Bureau on this.. The other 49 Don't cry when their mission people don't get counted, Why does Utah cry every single time new popualtions come out???