This resolution falls prey to the classic institutional ad-hominem attack on the
issue of illegal immigration. "The federal government has failed to act,
therefore we must act ourselves." Or in this case, it has failed to act, so
"Utah should do nothing until the federal government acts."The fallacy in both arguments is that the federal government has not acted. In
fact, they have doubled the size of ICE's budget in the last five years. They
have added FOD offices and a federal immigration court in Utah. In 1995
Congress passed into law the 287(g) program, and later "Secure
Communities." Both these programs deputize and train local law enforcement
to enforce federal immigration law, and work with ICE for deportations. They are
"voluntary" programs. Utah, simply needs to volunteer.It
is Utah that has done little until now. Only two Utah counties, Washington and
Weber have 287(g) agreements with ICE. Why so few? Why has Utah been largely
unwilling to participate with the federal government and ICE in addressing
illegal immigration? We can't do it alone! Wouldn't it be prudent to first take
advantage of existing federal law and programs?
I just have to laugh when I read about the sensible approach---the only thing
that makes real sense is to send them home to wait in line. No prizes for
breaking the law. If a process is put in place where they cannot
work, they cannot get medical care and no citizenship for their children they
will go home. I agree with the felony for employers. Treat everyone with respect including those that are unemployed and those
trying to get their secure their social security and identity.Smaller class size which is only taught in English and our nation would be
well on it's way to lower taxes and a better education.
Illegals? Undocumented? Terrorists? Since 1492, this land of promise has
offered a "sanctuary" to the immigrants of the world at the expense of
the indigenous people. History tells the truth. Crying "foul" to
others from the south of the border, who also seek the same sanctuary as the
original immigrants is what I would call talking or crying with a
"forked-tongue".Let's be reminded "there's blood
stains on those hands", maybe through remembrance of those stains, can we
find balance to address the real immigration problem.Let's open the
historical closet and see what happens. Bones. Bones. Bones.
Immigration reform can be ridiculously simple.Make employing an
illegal alien a felony punishable by jail time and a $100,000 fine. Illegals come here primarily for work. If the jobs dry up they will go
elsewhere. No need to spend billions deporting them. Simply start jailing people
who employ them instead. Put a few business owners behind bars, seize their
assets and I guarantee you employers will get the message loud and clear.
Romero sure has had a lot of proposed bills voted down this session. Maybe he
should figure out what Utahns want. He seems he would be a better fit in the
California Assembly with his crazy ideas.
It's good to see our legislators are listening to their constituents . . . .
they need to remember illegals don't vote Utahans do!
Sorry about my remark above. I jumped to conclusions. I didn't know what I was
talking about.I meant to say that I only support illegal immigration laws
if they do not encourage racial profiling that may hurt our LEGAL immigrants and
own American citizens. The House failed to do this. I still hope the Senate is
smarter than the House. Regarding Romero's resolution, although it is
from the other side, it is still all or nothing black or white absolute and not
The Senate is smarter than the House. YES!I am for fighting ILLEGAL
immigration law IF it does NOT hurt LEGAL immigration and our American citizens.
This bill ties the hands of our own law enforcement and scares are own Legal
Citizens that are not Caucasian.Make a better bill and strike every bill
that is only black and white - all or nothing. "Absolutes lead to the dark
Romero wonders why a similar resolution passed but his did not? The other
resolution called on the feds to act, his said wait for the feds to act. the
former does not preculde the state from doing something, while the latter does.
The martyr complex does not look good, Mr. Romero.
Finally some good news on the war against the illegal freeloaders who are
bankrupting our country and our state. It's about time they started listening
to the will of the PEOPLE (yes, those same people that the lawmakers work for)
and not to the open borders crowd who want to turn Utah into Juarez like Tony
Yapias, LA RAZA and the MEcha/reconquista movement.Note to
lawmakers: The people are awake and watching very closely what happens with
these new illegal immigration enforcement bills. Remember what we the voters
did to Chris Cannon and Bob Bennett.
No matter what you stance on immigration, I think everyone knows that the
federal government has dropped the ball on this issue and refuses to pick it up.
This resolution was worthless because it asks the state to sit back and do
nothing, and that would be a great disservice to EVERYONE involved.
It is very crowded around the woodwork right now with all the people coming out
to tell us how they really feel about the foreign invasion. By the way did the
Salt Lake Chamber pay for Todd Landfried's visit to Utah?
Mr. Romero is an Attorney...all attorneys like Ross have trouble distinguishing
between Legal and Illegal....lets hope his constiuents can convince him at his
next election what that difference might be!
"Sen. Margaret Dayton, R-Orem, noted the word "illegal" does not
appear in the document. "I think it's misleading at a time when we're
talking about illegal immigration," she said."You're using
immigration and illegal immigration as if they're the same thing," she told
Romero.Romero replied that the two are "absolutely tied
together. You cannot solve one without the other."That is the
problem right there. They refuse to accept our immigration laws. There is a big
difference between legal and illegal to most of us.
Why was Todd Landfried speaking anyway? He's spokesman for "Arizona
Employers for Immigration Reform" (a group that probably should be known as
Arizona Businesses that like cheap labor at the expense of the American worker).
Shouldn't he be promoting Amnesty in Arizona? Oh yeah, the citizens of Arizona
have made their feelings known, so he's trying it here instead.I think
it's time WE made our feelings known to our legislators, too.
"until the federal government addresses the problem"Is
that suppose to be a joke cause it is pretty funny.
Foreign freeloaders and criminals have been taking advantage of U.S. taxpayers
for decades, and our elected officials are starting to understand that we want
something done now!!!
House Bill 116 (Guest Worker Program) passed the House yesterday. The senate is
voting TODAY!!!Contact your representatives - google 'Utah Senate', go to site
and the district maps section, enter your address and you will see who your reps
are. Urge them to opppose any guest worker or amnesty bills, and to suppport
enforcement only bills. I already did.
It appears that Tolman's plea to back off went unheeded. And for good
reason.In 1981 a federal commission, led by Rev Hesburgh of Notre
Dame (and filled with Carter democrats), issued a report on the immigration
problem.They suggested:Better border securityBetter visa
controlBetter work eligibility verificationWorksite enforcementDeportation of those here illegally.Similar panels gave similar
recommendations in 1994 and 1997. And a perusal of the 9/11 commission spoke in
similar terms.THEY AREN'T LISTENING to their OWN commissions.So, the states must speak up, supported by the citizens.We
know what the Chamber of Commerce will say. We know what the unions will say.
We know what Latino activists will say.It's time to listen to the
citizens.Stay strong, legislators.
Todd Landfried, spokesman for Arizona Employers for Immigration Reform, told the
committee that "ill-considered" state laws will hurt Utah's economy as
they have Arizona's."Doing something doesn't meant doing
anything," he said. "While Arizona is leading, it's not leading in a
direction you want to follow."Well, Mr Todd Landfried, Arizona
is leading in the right direction. A lot of illegals have left your state and
headed to Utah and Colorado and other places. They are afraid. Now its time
for other states to send the illegals to their final destination, their home
No more illegal immigrants. No benefits for those who come here illegally,
except a ticket home.
Thank you UT lawmakers. Now can you consider coming to CO to knock some sense