I would only favor a guest worker program for people who apply for it from their
native country. Make it real easy and cheap for people to get from their
homeland and fast track those who speak English, have legal relatives in the US,
or have an employer that will sponsor them. Increase the number of work permits
(green cards) given out, make it enough to cover all the illegals we have living
here now, but they have to go home to get it. Take those who have been waiting
legally first.Meanwhile, put stiffer penalties on businesses that
hire illegals and pass everything else you can to make it hard to be here
illegally.Illegals that are here would head home to apply for the
guest worker permit. Knowing it won't take long or cost too much will be an
incentive. When they come back legally, they will receive the same wages an
American would and pay taxes, drive legally and have insurance, and be out of
the shadows. They would not be citizens with voting rights, but they would be
legal.Right now it is too hard to come legally and too easy to stay
What happened to the bill to revoke the drivers privilege cards? Was Sen.
Brambles claim that it allowed them to buy insurance just a smoke screen for his
pro-illegal beliefs? We know people can buy insurance without the
DPC, now it seems he is out of the shadows on his true intentions.
He knows the guest worker part is unconstitutional. Federal law requires a visa
or guest worker take a job that no one locally is trained or able to do. That means his bill will never go into effect. With the clause in his
bill killing all the other bills, this will stop any immigration enforcement
this year. I pray for Utah, we are being sold out by our legislature
to business interests that care nothing about the American worker.
I am typically not a fan of Sen. Curt Bramble but if what I am reading and
hearing on the news is correct, all I can say is it is about time. I think this
is great news. We have for too long only considered punshment for immigration.
While I would like to know more, I support his efforts to bring some humanity to
this discussion. It is time to stop the hate, and the cast them all out at all
costs. We need to remember that most of us had family members who did much the
same thing many years ago. I look forward with hope to this bill.
Unless a bill is comprehensive it takes into account only part of the situation.
It ignores the harm that would happen to our Utah businesses. The harm we are
doing to families. The harm to people who have rentals and then can't rent them.
The harm done to children whose parents took them to this country.
Bramble's bill is available on the senate site. It has some very disturbing
parts to it, including canceling all other immigration bills passed this year.
We should be paying back Utah's legal workers for the jobs and work
stolen from them, instead of violating their constitutional rights.
Sen. Curtis Brambles bill SB288, is a wolf in sheep clothing. He is obviously a
open border advocate. His bill contains a supremacy clause that will kill all
other immigration laws passed this year, if his bill is approved.
Senator Bramble's early efforts in developing a "Utah Compact"
comprehensive illegal immigration bill are emerging as the mature choice, with
prospects of becoming a credit rather than a liability to our state.
@C. Darwin, in general I agree with you. Regarding Bramble's bill in
particular, if a recent Deseret News poll (Dennis Romboy, "Utahns favor
guest-worker bill letting illegals stay", 2/20/2011) can be believed, 71%
of Utahns support something along these lines. (Apparently, most of the DN
commenters fall under the other 29%.)I applaud Bramble for proposing
something that most Utahns can rally around. If Herrod, Sandstrom, Wimmer, and
others would follow suit, I'd be much more inclined to believe that our elected
representatives actually represented us. Unfortunately, I get the impression
that the Eagle Forum and the John Birch Society are pulling a lot of the strings
this year, to the detriment of the average Utahn.
A non enforcement bill that keeps things the way they are now.
Sad day in Utah when legislators dance to their own tune and disreguard the cry
of the citizens. The legislature is broken and needs a total overhaul to
represent the citizens.
More "guest worker" hoopla? This concept hardly addresses the issues.
Why would anyone sign up for a "guest worker" permit when they could
continue to work with stolen identities or work for cash without worrying about
re-application fees?The guys hanging out on 500 West and 300 South
in the morning won't be applying for the "guest worker" program.Enough with the jokes, folks, and get something real! Only Sandstrom's
bill deals with the real issue so far.
This is unbelievable! We want illegals out of our state. I don't care how much
it costs us to get them out of here, and I certainly do not care about putting
illegals above current Federal Law. Get these people out of Utah and
out of the U.S.A. immediately!
So is this the Sen. Curt Bramble who is responsible for Utah's illegal alien
'driving privilege card'? (rhetorical question).I'm waiting
breathlessly to see what Sen. Bramble's version of a 'comprehensive illegal
immigration bill' will be, but this much I know. The legal citizens
of Utah are tired of paying for all this illegal alien stuff and they aren't
going to wait any longer. If our elected officials think we aren't
watching they are mistaken. We are watching and we want the will of the
electorate carried out.If the libs/government expects citizens to
respect the rule of law and they don't expect illegal aliens to do the same,
there is a real disconnect. Call and email your elected
representatives. Let them know how you want them to vote. Silence now will only
compound the problem for years to come.History is ours for the
We aren't buying amnesty in any way, shape, or form so give it up. The last
amnesty created the current problem. They don't deserve amnesty and Utahns
should fill the jobs they are currently holding down.
A do nothing bill for the problems we face. Nothing is solved.1)
Nothing to discourage more illegal immigration.2) A slap in the face
for all those that do things the right way, we would be telling all illegals to
come here, WHY?3) Is this really what our representatives think we
want as Utahn's?I as one say stop insanity, now! Stop illegal
immigration, don't encourage it!
Sorry but even if the law did not provide amnesty, we cannot wait another 2
years for enforcement to pick up.