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Published: Friday, Feb. 18 2011 2:11 p.m. MST

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hedgehog
Ann Arbor, MI

" KSL estimated the contract to be less than Notre Dame's $15 million NBC contract, but much more than BYU's current $1.5 million deal with the Mountain West Conference"

Without any real numbers byu and it's trolls (like Bluto) can promote just about any number they want.

Funny, ND is a private University yet they feel know reason to hide the finacials from the rest of the world. It leads one to beleive that true numbers pale in comparison.

As long as BYU can continue to "sell" it's followers without providing and real numbers - all the better.

juni4ling
Somewhere in Colorado, CO

Football subsidizes all the other welfare sports.

Period.

It is that way at every other college in America.

College sports, especially female sports, do not produce any sort of profit. They all operate negatively.

BYU can balance the budget, but most colleges cannot.

Taxpayers end up funging most, if not all, of the scholarships for mediocre girls to play golf on a full-ride, to "match" the scholarships and money given to football...

It is laws like Title 9 that are making America an expensive place to be a taxpayer.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Let me get this straight. The BYU athletic dept was not in dire straights and accruing no red ink and all the minor sports were doing fine and winning championships. Did I get that right? Duckhunter will challenge this. So, BYU in an attempt to make even more money goes independent in football, cuts a nice deal with ESPN but turns around and throws all the minor sports that were thriving into the wind or to the WCC, a conference that cannot absorb them all and is currently ranked 14th in the basketball conferences RPI. I have a degree from BYU and I am fairly intelligent but I can't figure this one out. Oh, I remember, it was about exposure, except the WCC deal with ESPN expires this summer and according to Jon Wilner's sources ESPN doesn't consider west coast basketball, specifically the PAC 10 of having any basketball value. That would also by association have to include the WCC.

Naked Truth
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Dutchman

It is about exposure for the football program and BYU athletics as a whole through the use of ESPN BYUtv, something that is not possible under the current regime. And, do you really think moving basketball to the WCC lessen's BYU's exposure when you compare it to the current level of exposure with the mtn? I assure you that more people nationwide have had access to see more Gonzaga, St. Mary's and even Utah State bball games this year than top-10 ranked BYU. Hence the move to independence/WCC is a no-brainer.

Wally
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Hedgehog,
What in the world is your problem? Surely there must be better things to do in Ann Arbor.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

Seriously hedgehog, don't you "know" the difference between "know" and "no".

Your posts might be taken a little more seriously if... then, again, maybe not.

It does make one wonder why someone with the resources to be a Notre Dame season ticketholder and a supposed Utah fan would be so obsessed with, and jealous of, a rival that you consider to be soooo mediocre.

You seem to be trying to convince yourself more than anybody else of your own distorted vision of reality.

taraxopoios
Lake Tapps, WA

Moody makes it sound as if creating a balanced budget every year is just a college sports problem when in fact it is something every business and government agency faces every year. The difference is the athletic department has figured out how to "live within their means". Perhaps the government should sit through one of their planning cycles and see how it is done.

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Dutchman | 3:04 p.m. Feb. 18, 2011
Murray, UT
"I have a degree from BYU and I am fairly intelligent but I can't figure this one out."
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OK, open for debate, but have Uteology figure this one out for you, because real numbers are lost to you kids...

Jonathan Eddy
Payson, UT

BYU is a class act and everyone knows it; even the haters. Good administration. Good student athletes. Some people just love to hate good things. I've never been able to figure out why. Maybe it's an inferiority complex that causes disgruntled, simple minds to lash out.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

I'm still not getting it. I understand the exposure thing. It sounds like under the MWC money was not the issue. No red ink according to the article. The minor sports in the MWC were getting all the exposure they will ever get. Women's soccer, basketball, softball, etc etc etc were all on TV and nationwide if you have DirecTV. How is all that minor sport TV exposure going to be replicated now that BYU is leaving the MWC? Now the minor sports have no conference or the WCC. What championships are going to be played for. In football ESPN is picking up football games but to me it seems everything else is sacrificed for football exposure and more money and the money wasn't really needed.

IDC
Boise, ID

Big bad BYU choosing more exposure, more money, and more control of it's own destiny. All of the teams will still get to play and will have newer equipment to boot. More people will see BYU sports. Maybe the women's volleyball team will get national exposure on byutv. I don't see a downside to all of this.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Dutchman

Are your really so dense? Not all BYU fans agree, but the vast majority of BYU fans seem to at least understand the tradeoff BYU is making by leaving the MWC, but gaining added exposure through ESPN and BYUtv for all BYU sports, so what's your problem?

Almost none of BYU's pre-conference season home basketball games this year were broadcast by the MTN. When Fresno State played at the Marriott Center in December, the brain-dead programmers at the MTN chose to air a sports statics show and a MWC roundtable discussion rather than broadcast a live basketball game.

Just one of hundreds of examples of how moronic the MTN is run and why BYU chose Independence and the WCC rather than continue to put up with the myriad broken promises of the MTN and Craig Thompson.

Eddie
Syracuse, UT

Seriously Hedgehog, the more I read your posts, the more I believe you are a completely ignorant individual. Not only is your spelling just plain horrible, but your logic and complete obsession with anything BYU is just plain weird!

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, Utah

"Funny, ND is a private University yet they feel know reason to hide the finacials from the rest of the world. It leads one to beleive that true numbers pale in comparison.

As long as BYU can continue to "sell" it's followers without providing and real numbers - all the better."

hedgehog,

Have you considered that since the 2011 football season hasn't happened yet, nobody knows the exact amount of revenue for the 2011 football season?

Can you tell me how much Wyoming's new bball coach will get paid? Or better yet, how much Kemba's NBA contract will be for? How much would Texas make if they went independent?

We won't know until it happens. ND knows because they have been independent for a while and have noticed a trend. BYU is just starting out, and since they've never had a contract with ESPN, they have no history to look back on.

Tommy2Shoes
Lehi, UT

Glad my Cougs were making some dough back in 2009. Wonder where the profits go? Better facilities. Better parking. Higher wages to coaches. Rainy day fund. I have to believe all the sellouts at the MC will help the bottom line this year. I haven't seen as many big ticket discounting promotions like a few years ago. Gone are the days of buying a $5 ticket and sitting in the lower bowl. That's why I have season tickets in the lower bowl. Best way to see the show. I hope the cougs male more dough in the years to come so that the student athletes in every sport can be given the most support possible in their personal quest for perfection.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

"but gaining added exposure through ESPN and BYUtv for all BYU sports, so what's your problem?"

Where does ESPN televise the minor sports? They will televise some football and basketball games. That is the problem.

fresnogirl
Fresno, CA

Dutchman

What we don't get is why you care so much? Here you are seriously obsessing about things over which you have no say or interest. WHY?

And, just as valid, why do you think anyone who does have a say or interest in BYU sports cares what negative dribble you feel compeeled to post?

Utiesrsocute
Murray, UT

Hedgehog

Do they have newspapers in michigan?

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Dutchman | 5:31 p.m. Feb. 18, 2011
Murray, UT
I'm still not getting it.
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Understood....

Take some classes at the U, and then you will understand basic econ....

Riddles in the Dark
Olympus Cove, Utah

Dutchman

"Where does ESPN televise the minor sports? They will televise some football and basketball games. That is the problem."

Your question and answer to yourself prove that you don't get it.

We understand that.

So, stop belaboring the point and just accept that this is MUCH better for BYU than the current MWC deal.

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