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Published: Friday, Feb. 18 2011 12:04 p.m. MST

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Madden
Herriman, UT

And that is essentially the problem:
"In order for them to work they have to commit identity theft."

US immigration is broken. Giving in-state tuition is such a waste UNTIL they fix the rest of the system. And granting in-state tuition is certainly a nod to the wink-wink immigration enforcement we have.

Too bad our Congress does not have the intestinal fortitude to find a way to get these immigrants here legally through some compromise. Instead they will continue to be either reviled by too many citizens or abused by too many businesses, immigrant right groups and crooks.

Poqui
Murray, UT

Once again condemning children who were brought here illegally as babes in arms to lesser jobs when they don't know any other culture than the one they were raised in. How short sighted!

EJM
Herriman, UT

This bill may have come out of committee but will not become law.

Viva la Migra
American Fork, UT

Good. I hope this gets fully repealed this year. When the State is struggling with a budget deficit and Universities are discussing enrollment caps, it doesn't make sense to spend millions to subsidize the tuition for illegal aliens who may not legally utilize that education to obtain work here.

unaffiliated_person
Saratoga Springs, UT

Poqui...no one is condemned. They will be like the other thousands of out of state residents who attend school in Utah. Unless you think it would be good to have all out of state residents pay instate tuition and make us taxpayers subsidize anyone who comes here for school.

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

This is a sad situation and I think we are all conflicted about it. But, it isn't fair for illegals to get instate tuition when American citizens from other states have to pay out-of-state tuition.

These children are victims of the fact that their parents chose to bring them here illegally. It's really sad, but something has to be done to get this situation cleared up. We need to get a workable guest worker program that makes it possible for people to come here legally.

In the meantime, it's not right for the taxpayers to subsidize this situation. I hope this will create more pressure to get our immigration problems resolved.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

Nothing short sighted here. The univeristy is subsidized through tax payer dollars. Illegals DO NOT pay taxes. Therefore they shouldn't benefit from the system. We should give first priority to people who sacrifice working two-three jobs to put their kids through college. Not for illegals who cross the border, work illegally, drive down wages, steal identities and do not contribute to the tax revenue of the state.

What they need to do. Is to go home, and apply to come here legally. Then they can get grants, scholarships, in state tuition etc.

Besides college will be cheaper in their home countries than in state tuition is here. That will be great for them and they'll speak their native language to them and they can fly their flag!!

Nothing but ups on this bill!

hardware
Erda, Ut

When I hear this I put the shoe on the other foot. Mexico would never let us go to school free....CASE CLOSED.

We the People
Sandy, UT

Wimmer is correct; we should not subsidize illegal behavior.

legalimmigrant
Springville, Utah

Madden, the US immigration is not broken. What is broken is the enforcement of our immigration law.
Cats, we already have a guest worker program. It is called the H visa.
Poqui, could you explain why us taxpayers would have to pay for these babes' parents' short-sightedness?

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Poqui

Their status as ILLEGAL aliens "condemns them to lesser jobs"

But how can they have ANY lega job as illegals?

And WE are not the ones doing any condemnation; it was their PARENTS who condemned them by their illagel act.

Does the embezzler's family suffer because they have to pay restitution and go to prison for embezzling? yes, but that does not mean we should not prosecute embezzlers.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

A good start to correct an injustice for the taxpaying citizens of Utah.

The American born children of illegal parents are being hurt, but the blame is on their parents, not Utah taxpayers.

The true beneficiaries of the "in state tuition" program have been the illegal parents, since parents almost always are the real payers for college anyway.

Never reward bad or illegal acts.

tom_e
Kaysville, UT

A is just a matter of waiting. Sooner or later they will be arrested for a small infraction and sent back to Mexico.

Poqui
Murray, UT

Wowzers..! Harsh responses to a plea for compassion. The LDS Church plea for compassion has sure fallen on deaf ears here in Utah.

Their best option is to attend LDSBC and BYU that don't charge out of state tuition. Most of the illegals I know are planning on taking that route from now on. So I guess the LDS Church will come through and help the children of illegals by educating them. So, if you're Mormon, your tithing is helping educate the children of illegals. Thanks! Keep paying your tithing!

hatuletoh
Sugarhood, UT

Wow, I never noticed that Rep. Wimmer was Pat Bagley's model for his recurring Utah Legislator characters. I thought those strange looking little cartoons were composites, but Mr. Bagley is clearly channelling Rep. Wimmer. I must have always been unfamiliar with the features of the representative to have never before noticed this uncanniness.

Halach Huinic
Mapleton, UT

Restricting educational opportunities for anyone under any circumstance strikes at the heart of community life. Somehow this heartless drive to root out all illegal immigrants at any cost has got to be reined in. Destroying a village to save it was wrong in Vietnam, and it is wrong in Utah.

Bryan
Syracuse, UT

I'm glad this bill made it out of committee. There is no reason why tax payers should be paying for the education of illegal aliens. This only encourages the parents to come here illegally, and encourages the students to get jobs illegally when they finish college.

Jazz Bass Man
Wellsville, Utah

It's high time the Utah legislature started passing bills that will discourage illegals from coming here. Hopefully we will see more in the newar future, with Sandstrom's bill passing.

On the other hand
Spanish Fork, UT

@Liberal Ted and others, many illegal immigrants do pay taxes. In fact, illegal immigrants are credited with keeping social security afloat, since so many of them pay in and none of them will ever reap any of the program's benefits.

@Lost in DC, when we prosecute embezzlers, nothing precludes us from helping their innocent family members.

Considering
Stockton, UT

Let us remember that NOBODY in the legislature and virtually nobody else is calling for anything but compassion. Nobody is suggesting draconian punishment for violating our immigration laws: we are NOT talking about locking up people for long terms, forced hard labor, or even future disqualification to enter the nation legally. All we want is for the current lawbreaking to end.

Think of it this way, when you get stopped for speeding and the officer gives you a warning and tells you slow down, do you think him harsh or non-compassionate for not letting you continue to speed? Of course not.

There is no doubt that our own inaction on immigration since Reagan made the mistake of amnesty 30 years ago has contributed to the problem. But when you find yourself in a deep hole, you've got to stop digging.

We cannot afford to encourage the next two generations of law breakers to enter or remain in our nation illegally by refusing to make the hard choices now.

It would have been easier 30 or even 20 years ago. Yes, we messed up. We HAVE to fix it now by getting serious about enforcement.

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