Drop a bunch of CFL's on the Senate floor and the Hazmat Team has to come in to
clean up. we would soon have common sense back in play. It's true, we'll have
mercury seeping out of the landfills in 10 years, and all that money saved on
energy will be spent on clean-up.
In colder places the old bulbs contribute to some of the heat of the home.
Studies have shown that when the bulbs are replaced for CFLs the heating load
goes up to maintain the temperature.I'm glad someone mentioned LED
lights, not toxic, last much longer than CFL's don't flicker, come in many light
color, are dimmable and don't generate excessive heat or risk fire.Why aren't LED pushed instead then? Because GE did not invest in them and GE
is in bed with the EPA and Presidency. I'll wait until bulbs are
made in the USA and employ Americans to make them. China must think
we are funny, we toss an industry that employed thousands for an effective
product the poorest could afford. We replaced it with a product that must be
shipped from another less friendly country, we employ their people, we over pay
for a toxic product that is hazardous to dispose and expensive to own, works
poorly in lower temperatures, won't work in the oven, and is slow to light. Whose side is our government really on? It seems not ours!
I replaced most of the bulbs in my house to CFLs about two years ago. This
includes the bulbs in my garage and porch lights. I have not replaced one of
those bulbs yet. However, the incandesents that are needed for some specialty
lighting, I have replaced several times in that time period. Some people just
dont like change. And, for those blaming the current administration for this
"intrusion on my life", did you actually read the part of the article
that stated this law was signed by Pres. Bush. Haters are blind to the truth.
Seems like we're doomed to a poorly, and annoyingly, lit future... Goodbye soft
and comforting, Hello harsh and distracting.
You all keep paying more. It'a good for the economy, and the stock market. I
swiched my 3100 sqft house over to all CFLs, no other change, and saved $75 from
one month to the next.There are all sorts of hues now, and you can
get the brighter bulbs in smaller sizes. They do work in low temps (we just had
a week at 15 degrees).Let go of your prejudices and look at the NEW
CFLs.I can't wait until LED lights get affordable. In the next 6
months, 3 more companies will be offering them, and watch the price plummet.
They use almost zero electricity, come in a HUGE assortment of colors and
intensities, work in any environment, have no hazardous substances, and do not
generate heat.(Although the circuit board to power them does). When all the
technical details are worked out, we will all go to LEDS. And the Government
will then ban CFLs...... :-)
When it comes to choices the article failed to mention LED ligthting which does
not have the fluorescent "flicker", has no mercury and many are
manufactured so that there is no lead or hazardous materials at all, totally
recyclable. The incandescent bulb wastes 95% of the elctrical power it uses
producing heat. The LED light is 90% more efficient than the Edison bulbs. Also,
the LED light uses 50% less energy to produce the same amount of light as the
equivalent fluorescent light bulb and 90%+ of that energy is light, not heat.
Low heat means less heat to be removed by your HVAC system. Works well in low
ambient temperatures. With LED lights there are no UV emissions.
from Iraq,I have kerosene as a back up heat source. I don't know
where you got the idea it was for a lamp.I use CFLs for my outside
lights and have no problems with them - they last sooooo much longer than the
incandescents. I had to replace the latter ever few months, but I don't
remember the last time I had to replace one of my CFLs.
No one has sddressed risk of fire from the tiny ballast overheating and
exploding. I have seen two of them do it. One was a chinese brand and everyone
said it was just inferior manufacture. But a friend from Canada sent me a
picture of a GE brand that had done the same thing. If it had happened when she
was not at home it very well could have burned her house down. Another example
of the operation of the laws of unintended consequences from an increasingly
re: from Iraqa car uses more energy than legs, so let's have govt. outlaw
cars-- starting with yours.
Incandescent light in my home is more practical than Fluorescent light by far.
To get the same lumes from a cfl light bulb as from a 75 watt incandescent I
will have to change my light fixtures because the cfl bulb does not allow me to
replace the cover because of the size of the new bulb.My cfl porch
lights never get above the brightness of a whale oil lamp of the 1800's, less
than that, in cold temps. I cannot dim a regular cfl lamp but I can
spend 18-23 dollars each for the special types that do and get only 50% of the
life from them.I will say again, incandescent light is by far the
Remember the low flow toilets? Yea the elites in Wash. DC always know best! I do
not buy the CFLs just because they told us to. They may be the best, but not for
me until I can make my own decision. Free market makes these decisions.
Studies have shown that you do not save energy with these light bulbs. People
leave the lights on longer because they use less power, so the net power usage
stays about the same. CFL's have their place but to restrict incandescent bulbs
is madness. The use of nuclear power is all we need for abundant clean energy.
@ From Iraq, poor example yours about kerosene. With the advent of electricity
people had the CHOICE of whether to grid up or not.If I want to
"live in the past", I should have the right to do so, even if that
means riding a horse, having a romantic meal by candlelight, or going to a
concert featuring 400-year-old classical music.Oh, and if it costs
me more or is less efficient to walk to a mountain lake to fish rather than
crashing up the mountain on my four-wheeler, I'd still rather walk it.
Efficiency is no argument either any more than modernization.
The ban on incandescents is another example of the brainless Pelosi-era. For
example, CFLs cannot go in an oven and it is quite dangerous to put them in
there. Of course, the Pelosi-types think the only way we can get
progress is through the hard hand of government and probably believe we'd still
be using kerosene lamps if the government hadn't banned kerosene in 1890.
I have some of each kind of Bulb, and every size battery that I may need.We have a major lighting store in downtown Honolulu. Anykind of Buld you
want. The company deals mostly in Stage Lighting. They also sell Glow Lamps.
Glow Lights are about to become very very popular in Hawaii. If you know of a
Glow Lamp maker trading public then buy now and hold.Times change,
mostly for the better. In the beginning we had 3.1 then in 98 we got rid of DOS
and Winsock. Now we have 7 which even I can't mess up.VHS beat Beta
even though Beta was slightly betteer.Blue Ray will never replace
CD's, but will be around, Video Rental Stores may not be.I do not
have much Rice in my Years Supply any more. I have Energy Bars, Stuff in Cans
with zip lids. Zip bags with closures. I do have a Princess Phone because that
is what works when the lights go out. You upgrade to whats better
and you keep what works.You can live Live Little House is you want
to,this is America. I just do not want to.
CFL's cannot be used in cold temperatures, so I guess our front porches and
garages will be dark all winter. And mercury will pile up in the groundwater
near landfills. And many people (including my wife) won't be able to read
indoors under CFL's. Another colossal government flop. Stay out of
It's time for another episode of, "Government Knows Best!"Remember how many times the government has been right?! Let's just list a
everyone (FHA)StimulusStimulus IIStimulus IIIStimulus IV
(it's going to work this time!)Iran will never want nuclear weaponsNorth Korea could never produce a nuclear weaponNuclear FalloutIllegalsHealthcare (mandatory)The summer of jobs (Joe Biden)Unemployment will not go above 8%The list goes on.....The people are too stupid and haven't gone to an ivy league college. Let's
have the smartest people, who have run a deficit of $15 Trillion to tell us how
to save money!Good idea!!And yet the sheep just follow
their masters to the slaughter house.
No mention of the fact that the CFLs contain mercury. Read the recommended
proper disposal methods of a broken FCL; it reads like a hazmat scenario. If the
CFLs are put into the regular trash they will break in the landfill, spreading
mercury in into the enviroment.
And the Home Depot(Genral Store)shopper looking for kersoene to light his lamp
after electricity and the incandescent bulb were readily available was also
upset because someone was forcing him to choose between kerosene and
electricity. Life just ins't fair for those who want to live in the past. If Tom
Paul has this on his agenda I pity anyone who would vote for such a retrograde
politician to be our President. Using more energy than is required to do a task
and expecting the price of electricity and the fossil fules that produce it to
go down is surely insanity. But whatever you do don't take my right to choose
energey inefficiency even if I think energy efficiency is a good idea.