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Published: Wednesday, Feb. 16 2011 6:00 p.m. MST

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Right or Wrong
Happy Valley, Utah

After careful reading of the compact I find it a total farce. It contradicts itself several times, and offers no direction.

Illegal immigration is a very simple thing, either you believe in following the law or you don't. Immigration is needed, illegal is not.

The compact is a waste of time, it offers nothing to the solution.

SLars
Provo, UT

I believe the high numbers of support come from talking about immigration, and not referencing immigration. This is a more honest approach.

New Utah Compact

FEDERAL AND STATE Immigration is a federal policy issue between the U.S. government and states. We urge Utahs congressional delegation, and others, to lead efforts to strengthen federal laws and protect our national borders. We urge state leaders to adopt reasonable policies addressing illegal immigrants in Utah.

LAW ENFORCEMENT MANDATORY We respect the rule of law and support law enforcements professional judgment and discretion. Local law enforcement resources should focus on all criminal activities, not just the ones they want to enforce.

FAMILIES & PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY Strong honest families are the foundation of successful communities. We oppose policies that unnecessarily separate families, however, those who break immigration laws knowingly, are responsible for breaking up their family. We encourage everyone to make honest, sensible, decisions, by obeying immigration laws.

SLars
Provo, UT

BUSINESS & LABOR Utah is best served by a free-market philosophy that maximizes individual freedom and opportunity. We acknowledge the economic role legal immigrants play as workers and taxpayers. We also acknowledge the drain caused by illegal immigration on our taxpayers. Utahs illegal immigration policies must reaffirm our global reputation as a welcoming and honest business-friendly state. We also realize that the state is not just business, but millions of honest hardworking dedicated people, that deserve a honest government that watches out for itheir best interests.

A HONEST SOCIETY Legal Immigrants are integrated into communities across Utah. We must adopt a humane approach to this reality, reflecting our unique culture, history and spirit of inclusion. Utah should always be a place that welcomes people of goodwill that come here legally.

Side by side, which would you choose?

JanSan
Pocatello, ID

I know that this may sound prejudice.. I don't mean for it to.. but I am wondering why they have a "Latino Day"? Tell me do they have a Chinese Day, and Italian Day? A Native American Day? A Somoan Day?

I guess I have a hard time understanding why if they are here because they want to be a part of this country why they have to have a particular day reconizing that they are Latino. It seems to me that they keep doing things to keep them apart from the rest of us.

Does Mexico have an American Day? Just asking...

I guess I just don't understand why if they are so excited about being here.. why can't they just be an American?

ouisc
Farmington, UT

I took a document to the office, describing all my good intentions, but justifying that I really didn't have to accomplish anything. I didn't receive any accolades...

jim l
West Jordan, UT

I do not believe Dan Jones poll. Just depends on who and where you call. Dan Jones wife is a demo on the hill. Make your own conclusions. We do not need a guest worker program. We need more jobs for americans. A guest in someone who is invited, not someone who came in the back door without knocking.

The american people are tired of illegal immigration and they want it fixed. I will watch closely how my representatives vote and i will work hard to get rid of those who support the illegals.

anti-liar
Salt Lake City, UT

I don't care about the poll in regard to the Utah Compact. I know that the purpose of the Utah Compact was to deceive. Not surprisingly, it apparently has. It very cunningly, purposely and knowingly seeks to convince the reader that there is, in fact, NO legal, moral nor Constitutional difference between legal immigration and illegal immigration, when they know perfectly well not only that there is, but that this difference is precisely the crux of the matter at hand.

Hunt
Spanish Fork, UT

The only thing you need to know about the Utah Compact is that it makes no attempt to differentiate between legal and illegal immigration. Pertaining to legal immigration, I can support it. I do not support nor do I feel that as a Legal U.S. Citizen should I in anyway have to support illegal activity of any kind. I'm sure the Dan Jones Poll made no attempt to differentiate between legal and illegal and therefore it represents skewed numbers.
I cannot find anyone amongst those I talk to on a daily basis that in anyway condone illegal immigration nor the illegal activities, such as identity theft, that shortly follows their arrival into our country.

My2Cents
Kearns, UT

Who did they poll? All the Mexican illegals neighborhoods? The compact is unconstitutional and illegal and illegal Latino's do not have rights, civil or criminal or constitutional. Their rights ended at the border.

This compact is an corporate Utah agreement to make sure illegal aliens can get jobs with the companies endorsing it. Any business endorsing the pact should be boycotted and left to die a slow death. Eduction cannot endorse this pact, the state legislators cannot endorse this pact, any who do so is criminally aiding and abetting illegal aliens and Mexicans in this state. This cleverly written document proposes to allow illegal mexicans to loot and pilfer from the poor and keep americans out of jobs.

Businesses in this state should all be charged with criminal employment of illegal aliens by violating the Federal and state labor laws that profoundly makes it criminal to employ them. It is time we stop making illegal criminals feel welcome to loot our state and country and unemployed Utahans.

JBrady
Murray, Ut

The Utah compact starts off telling us that immigration is between the Federal government and foreign governments. I believe this is Senator Robles idea of helping out her old employer.

Immigration in this country has always been about the Government and the people. There is no place in immigration law where it says that our country sets our quotas or enforcement according to the wishes of another country. That statement scares me. It should scare everyone in this country also.

The compact never address illegal immigration, just immigration. I've never seen another attempt that tried to protect lawbreakers, by mixing them in with those who obey the law, ans claiming they are the same.

CJ
Murray, UT

More DN propaganda, real polls show Utahns want the law enforced and illegals thrown out of here in big numbers.

Rosebyanyothername
Home Town USA, UT

Sorry, but this is getting VERY old. Honoring themselves and taking the military as a smoke screen is out of line. Yes, these people did serve their country, but come on there is NO connection here..

Really. It sounds like Tony Y's work again. Does the Utah Bar approve of his support of the illegal's Utah Compact? Where does he draw the line?

I agree with the comments that there are no Chinese Days, etc. Every day there is something about this Ut Compact. Get over yourselves. Please.

Polls can be biased, so I don't take the opinion of a few "selected" unscientific or random sample. I know what I am talking about, but the general public is smarter then these trumped up results.

So transparent. The last comment by Anti-Liar says is all and is right on!!

BTW. My ancestors came from Mexico legally 95 years ago, my father served in the military, as did my uncles, and own son. Pardon me if I am defensive of the military.

RichardB
Murray, UT

How can people support anything that does not address the problem, nor offer any solutions? Get off the compact wagon DN, it's not relevant when dealing with illegal immigration.

tenx
Santa Clara, UT

I don't believe the Dan Jones poll either. And I demand a Welsh Day. I also believe that the solution is enforcement, which has never been done when passing amnesty bills, and adhering to the laws. Viva LEGAL immigration.

Emophiliac
Vernal, UT

Let's ignore immigration. Fine, that can stay between the Feds and other nations. It is State business to give out business licenses and regulate businesses. We need to support Herrod's bill to require (none of this 'may' stuff) all employers to verify that their employees are US citizens or legal residents. At present, about 1 in 3 hispanics in Utah are illegals, according to the Census and the Pew statistics of 110,000 illegals in Utah. There is obviously a big problem here, but the Chamber of Commerce and the Legislature don't want to fix it, since it will cost them cheap labor.

curious george
Orem, UT

"KSL/Des. News poll shows Utahn's receptive to Utah Compact" Exactly whom did you poll? I also read the document. The whole thing is a farce. Someone must be getting payed off to makeup this stuff up. The American people, the people of the State of Utah are sick and fed up with politicians, the buisness community and the news media ignoring the will of the people so they can put money in their pockets. The problem of illegal immigration is an issue that if it had been delt with decades ago as the people of this country requested would not be something that is helping drag "our" country into chaos today.

orcaone
Lehi, UT

What poll? Most legal Utah citizens want illegal immigration stopped, period. Latino day and self serving polls do not change the facts.

danaslc
Kearns, UT

We have a bunch of politicians up on the hill that really have no regard for the middle class families that are out of work. Construction now belongs to the illegal and not the citizen. Fast food jobs belong to the illegal and not the legal high school kids looking for part time work or legal mothers trying to
to help the family. In this state if you notice being an illegal Latino gives you benefits that we pay for and respect they don't deserve for breaking into our country. Only the voters can rid capital hill of those that disrespect the legal middle class.

leer
Salt Lake City, UT

Awarding the Utah Compact a prize: a propaganda love fest. Glad Zions Bank subsidized Latino Day and not the taxpayers of Utah...but wondering much like JanSan, how come no Chinese Day? Armenian Day? Native American Day? Seriously, Dan Jones, Utahns are smarter than you think. I am very happy and proud of ANYONE who supports their country by enlisting in the U.S. military, Latino or otherwise, but this type of event, conducted at the Capitol during session is just not appropriate.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

To use the honorable service of the fine men and women honored at this ceremony to promote the twisted logic and hidden agenda of the "Utah Compact" is disgusting! They deserve better.

Maybe we need a "Legal Resident and Citizen Day" to balance "Latino Day" if they are going to try to combine legals and illegals into a single group.

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