No Mormons in the White House.
re: Pagan | 11:53 a.m. Feb. 4, 2011 As a libertarian, The left is
more likely to be rational IMO.Why use facts when you can pander to
the beliefs of others and play on their fears w/ hot button issues?
I don't think Rove really understands Mormonism.LDS candidates
cannot be trusted because of their religious beliefs.The media and
voters are not the ones bringing up religion. It is Mormons themselves who push
religion into everybody's face and into everything they do. They wear their
religion on their sleeves.Socially, to a Mormon, you are either a
fellow member or a "non-member" (also known as a potential
investigator). Trying to be friends with a Mormon is like trying to be friends
with a MLM-er. They are always trying to get you to "join".Politically, they believe they are supposed to prepare the world for the
coming of Jesus, when their theocracy will rule for a thousand years, when
"every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that [the Mormon] Jesus is
the Christ" (Philippians 2:10-11; Mosiah 27:31; D&C 76:110; D&C
88:104).They aspire to "put an end to all nations"
(D&C87:6) that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American
continent (in Missouri); that Christ will reign personally upon the earth.This is the kind of thinking that tears the world apart.
Whew...now I can sleep in peace.
"1) Should an emergency room doctor be compelled to perform an abortion if
it is deemed to be crucial in saving the mothers life, regardless of her/his
personal opinion on abortions?" I can't think of a question that is less
relevant to selecting a President of the United States. How much say does Obama
have for example, on this issue? None. This question is more appropriate for
someone running to be a board member of a medical association or a local
Is it a Mormon that is running for President?Is it a Catholic that is
running for President?Is it an Evangelical that is running for
President?Is it a Muslim that is running for President?OR ....IS IT
An AMERICAN that is running for President? A Fellow American! When will we
get over this labeling ritual???
What did you expect him to do? Come to Utah and say that he thinks a Mormon
cannot win? Duh!
Oh great.Rove wants to help the 'Mormon for President' cause.Thatll be the kiss of death.
'That statement is funny. Shows that you are part of the problem. Blaming the
right for EVERYTHING.' - Belching Cow | 1:59 p.m. Feb. 4, 2011 No,
no. Just: Iraq Afghanistan Financial Meltdown Guantanamo Oh and: Waterboarding No WMDs
Or are you saying that the last Republican President for 8 years was a
liberal? Because that would be seen as distancing yourself from the
core principles of the self-proclaimed 'right.'
No. Because for some he will be to Mormon and others Not mormon enough.Always a he, can you even wrap your mind around the idea of a Female Mormon
President.1st Sister with an RM Mr.
@Pagan"Yeah, they are. I will grant you the left has problems. And
it's origins can be traced to the right."That statement is
funny. Shows that you are part of the problem. Blaming the right for
Re WhazzupIt appears that the benzene has affected your ability to track -
move upwind and get some fresh air.
It never ceases to amaze me that so many Mormons are so loyal to a political
party that is happy to take their votes and then sits back and does nothing as
its' extremists brand them as non-Christian and a cult. Meanwhile, Harry Reid
serves as the Majority Leader of the Senate and nobody bats an eye.Yes, a Mormon may be president someday, but he or she won't be a Republican
for a VERY long time.
Hopefully the person will be a real Mormon and working for the NWO like Reid,
Hatch, and Romney.
sergio | 9:09 a.m. Feb. 4, 2011 Phoenix, AZ Perhaps, it would be a
good thing to have a Mormon president and then he could use his power of office
to explore and find the Book of Mormon lands thus solving a major American
religious question. Ooooh. Yeah. Just like Harry Reid has done.
'So does that mean the left is full of stable people and ideals, that they have
every thing under control and the country is doing great with no problems, other
than the ones the right causes?' - kiaoraguy | 10:58 a.m. Iraq Afghanistan Financial Meltdown Guantanamo
Obama didn't create any of these. So, long and short?
Yeah. Yeah, they are. I will grant you the left has problems. And
it's origins can be traced to the right. Example? 'I
guess if an undocumented Kenyan can become president, why not a Mormon?' -
Whazzup | 9:45 a.m. Feb. 4, 2011 Still waiting on a 'Kenyan' birth
certificate. One BESIDES the last four that was proven fraud. If you
can only present questions as your point, you don't have any facts.
The far right is out of control? So does that mean the left is full of stable
people and ideals, that they have every thing under control and the country is
doing great with no problems, other than the ones the right causes? Oh my
@LiaHopefully after 2012 our current lack-wit will be nothing more than a
bad memory.In case you were not aware there are quite a few
presidents who where former governors. Not sayin she would be a good president
but she is every bit as qualified as the current lack-wit. You thinkin that
Brittney Spears is as qualified as a former governor sheds some light on how
Obama got elected.
Bitter? nah..Just glad that the improvident lack-wit is a memory. A BAD memory.
I guess if an undocumented Kenyan can become president, why not a Mormon?
"dissecting the tenets of a religion in conjunction with a candidate is
inappropriate" What Mr Rove says is true, but that hasn't stopped it from
happening in the 2008 Presidential Race. I am sure that Huckabee
entered the presidential race as a legitimate choice for president from the
"Religious Right". But I am also sure that he stayed in the race, even
though he had no reasonable expectation of winning, because he wanted to make
sure that Romney - and more specifically - a MORMON would not be elected
Christians in the South? Not in my experience (except for the Mormon ones).
Perhaps, it would be a good thing to have a Mormon president and then he could
use his power of office to explore and find the Book of Mormon lands thus
solving a major American religious question.
other:utahns that voted for o did.
Sure a Mormon can be President. But, she'll probably be a democrat. The far
right is out of control.
If our primary system forces candidates to pander to a base and consequently
appear as evasive, flip flopping, deceitful, or ignorant, then perhaps we should
change to an instant runoff plan. Of course the status quo king makers, or power
brokers, may oppose but are there other reasons? Straight on answers, about
political issues or religion, will go a long way with voters in the South. If
Huckleby thinks he can get political mileage in asking a Candidate, who happens
to be Mormon, if Satan is a brother to Jesus then let him state if he believes
that Satan exists and if so where did he come from. As a convert for the South,
I believe Mormons need make no apologies about their religion. It just needs to
be explained and contrasted
Lia: Aren't you tired yet of that Bush lie?Can you point to even one
count in Florida that come up with Gore in the lead? No.Do you
believe the Florida state government should have followed their own
constitution? Obviously not. You wanted the rules changed in the middle of the
game to favor your candidate.It's been more than a decade and I
can't believe you are still holding onto a completely innaccurate and fabricated
version of history. Get over it and move on with your life. How long can you let
your political biases rest on a lie?
I am a non-Mormon Utahn. I could and have voted for Mormons (Wayne Owens and Jon
Huntsman and others) and will in the future. I am as likely to vote for a Mormon
as I am to vote for an atheist or member of any other religion if I agree with
their political views. Can Utah Mormons say the same? Would they ever vote for
an atheist if they had similar political views?
I agree with Rove- a Mormon could win the general election where political views
would override concerns over religion. But it is unlikely that Republicans will
nominate a Mormon- and there are no Mormons running as Democrats. Perhaps
Huntsman should run as a Democrat.
I agree with Esquire- a Mormon is highly unlikely to get the Republican
nomination because of the dominance of religious bigots in the south who will
vote against any non-Evangelical.
Dear Hutterite,Bush was not elected, he was appointed. And Sarah is
only a contender for den mother, or soccer mom...barely. She has no more
business running for the presidency than Brittney Spears.
No it's not.
Well, a nod from Mr. Rove. So respected in American politics. Never seen as
extreme or manipulative in any way. If I were a candidate, I would stay as far
away from this man as possible.
Rove is out of touch. He missed the signals on the Tea Party and the impact
conservatism had on the 2010 midterms.He's a RINO trainer; not exactly a
prophet in the current political climate.But I can see how he would like
Jon Jon; Huntsman Jr is his kind of client.
Why must LDS members always wear the title? Can't they simply be the best
wow, I just figured it out. Huntsman's only reason for running is to attack
Sarah and the other gang of right wingers. He is to be the attack dog, grrrr
grrrr. He can't get the nomination, but he can attack attack attack Sarah and
Michelle and the whole gang. He can push the buttons and watch the action. He
will rip rip rip. That leave Mitt with clean hands. Whoa, I feel
insightful this morning.Got it!!!!
The biggest obstacle to a Mormon becoming President is getting the nomination in
the very political party that they think is part of their religion. The right
wing of the GOP rules, and their bigotry will not allow it to happen. Mormons
who have run before were moderate mainstream, and the Republican Party has gone
so extreme that its past heroes would go no where today.
Not only did Huntsman quit the governorship and ambassadorship, he dropped out
of high school to be in a rock band. That has nothing to do with being Mormon,
but I don't know how that will help him.
Utah legislators resign when they are arrested for drunk driving. This is more
than we can say for members of most other state's legislatures. For example in
my home district we had a state senator who got multiple drunk-driving arrests,
but he was not ousted from office until he got a domestic abuse arrest.
George made it. Sarah's a contender. Anything is possible.
There's can, and there's will. Not the same thing.And of course
there's just how much coverage the Utah legislature gets nationally. Shine a
spotlight on those boys, and LDS candidates are toast outside of Utah.
I don't believe a Mormon can win because they would not be able to carry the
south. I don't mean any disrespect to the christians in the south, but they
view Mormons a cult and would not vote for a Mormon.
Some questions were raised during the Gingrich vs. Dean Debate this week that
all candidates will be forced to answer. I would like to see how a Mormon
candidate would answer: 1) Should an emergency room doctor be compelled to
perform an abortion if it is deemed to be crucial in saving the mothers life,
regardless of her/his personal opinion on abortions? 2) Did the pre- Obamacare
health system need fixing and if so how? 3) Did the Bush tax break contribute to
the national deficit?